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arider999
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I am posting this, cause i am really 
from GM's behavor...feels like they dont care for CO players, they dont care if u are a golden=paying customer, they dont care if u are paying for more than 4 years subscription and purchasing zen... i suspect Navi is the one to blame for my issue of "punish without warning first".....-
I must make it clear, than i dont have a problem to correct a toons name or appearance, if it violates CO's terms, my problem is that i should have been warned first, given the chance to correct the issue before being punished. In my 4years+ in CO, only ONCE again i had being reported for a similar issue, i did get an email warning, the problem was fixed by my own actions. Bellow, i post the ticket as i submited it to CO, and getting for answer CRAP.
Ok, i am VERY pissed, i have a toon named Forge Rider, its a homage toon, and WITHOUT any warning, ANY email first to inform me that i violate CO's terms and i must change either the name of the appearance of my toon, i got genericed, lost all my 3 costumes. I am a gold player, more than 4 years, and i DEMAND respect, not treated like a silver player who's playing the game like 2-3 months. I believe, that someone of your GM's is not doing his work as he suppose, and that includes the WARNING to the player BEFORE he is convicted to become generic. Seriously, if u dont want subscribers, this is a good way to get ridd of them, I am VERY.
from GM's behavor...feels like they dont care for CO players, they dont care if u are a golden=paying customer, they dont care if u are paying for more than 4 years subscription and purchasing zen... i suspect Navi is the one to blame for my issue of "punish without warning first".....-I must make it clear, than i dont have a problem to correct a toons name or appearance, if it violates CO's terms, my problem is that i should have been warned first, given the chance to correct the issue before being punished. In my 4years+ in CO, only ONCE again i had being reported for a similar issue, i did get an email warning, the problem was fixed by my own actions. Bellow, i post the ticket as i submited it to CO, and getting for answer CRAP.
Ok, i am VERY pissed, i have a toon named Forge Rider, its a homage toon, and WITHOUT any warning, ANY email first to inform me that i violate CO's terms and i must change either the name of the appearance of my toon, i got genericed, lost all my 3 costumes. I am a gold player, more than 4 years, and i DEMAND respect, not treated like a silver player who's playing the game like 2-3 months. I believe, that someone of your GM's is not doing his work as he suppose, and that includes the WARNING to the player BEFORE he is convicted to become generic. Seriously, if u dont want subscribers, this is a good way to get ridd of them, I am VERY
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2. check your ingame mail. MY name change message came by ingame mail.
3. The report would have been handled by someone in Customer support, who would have looked at your costume and compared it to whoever the reporter said it looked like.
4. Posting your complaint about Customer service on the forums is a breach of the Terms of service for the forums.
5. IF that was your response to Customer service, I can expect you to get absolutely nowhere.
and I'm now in breach of forum rules for replying to you, rather than just reporting it. My bad.
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2. no email, checked many times
3. even if that was the issue, which allready i said i whould corrected if so, NEVER WARNED FIRST
4. dont care
5. maybe so, but i still need players to know that behavior from GM's
u can report anything u like, some people just live to point fingers and not check their mirror image.
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you agree to the TOS when you start the game. You break the TOS why should they warn you again for something you 'already read' and apparently ignored.
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If the answer is yes, then that's asking to be made generic.
Also as far as I know. For about the last 2 years, you get genericed straight off.
http://www.arcgames.com/en/about/terms
15.3We may take any actions and impose any penalties we deem necessary to discourage and punish any violation of these terms or any other illegal or inappropriate conduct, all without prior notice or warning. The determination as to whether a violation has occurred and who is responsible for such act is solely within our discretion, and is based on what we deem best for the community and the Service. By using the Service, you agree you will be bound by our determination as to whether a violation has occurred and any penalty we choose to implement.
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So you broke the TOS multiple times (by your own admission) - and are shocked you were genericed? I don't think you're going to find much sympathy here.
Costume Policies
Champions Online offers an incredibly customizable character/costume creator. We understand that you may want to emulate a favorite costume that you know from another source; we ask you be aware of the following guidelines when creating your champion.
You may not create costumes or costume/name combinations that are recognizable as the registered property of any company. (This includes things such as: comics, anime, movies, or video games.)
When creating costume combinations, you may not create the illusion or appearance that you are indecent, obscene, or nude.
Policy Violations
If characters are found in violation of this policy, it may lead to disciplinary actions against the offending account. This could include suspension from the game or possibly account termination. Any character name or name/costume combinations which are against Cryptics Policy will be changed by Cryptic/PWE Support Staff.
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And ofcourse, knowing difference between a homage and a clone.
Did the other 3 get genericed without a reason no whatsoever? Or?
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the other 3, had ONE costume, that was homage, nothing more, so was the first that they gnericed, we talking about toons with 10+ costumes each.
ahh. just made the connection. explains a lot.
As far as I can tell from personal experience (by my own fault when I first started I fell foul of the TOS because I didnt read it), their system doesn't permit individual costumes to be cleared - its all or nothing.
The only other thing they can do is physically delete individual costume slots ( I know this because someone asked for it to be done because they had got to the point that their tailor was hanging when they were viewing costumes so they gave up some slots)
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It costs like 20g to redo a costume, and I'm 99% sure when they generic the first change is free. Take it as a lesson learned. They coulda banned you.
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Sadly, my costumes are a piece of me, i spend a lot of time designing them, i love each and everyone of them. Its not a G issue, in games terms, i am fiflthy rich, but they take parts of my love for CO away....maybe they banned me after all..i dont feel like logging....not sure if again.
Their characters should be swept into a vortex above RenCen, then exploded.
Maybe every character can get a little copyright crystal in the palm of their hand, that glows white when they are clear of copyright claims, but then throbs blood red when they are no longer inline with the TOS.
Maybe a copyright lawyer will stand up to the system and free all the people.
Yeah, Lawyer's Run!
Bluhman's made more toons over the years than there are typically people hanging around RenCen on any given day, and he's a veritable font of originality.
I'm afraid you won't find much sympathy for your trademark violations around here...
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...especially if one of them is in a violation of TOS.
yes, obviously, my post acts as a beecon for the homage haters and all around reporters. At least, PWE/CRYPTIC's attitude has made some people happy.
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Beyond that, LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE. Not telling you to NOT rant and rave. But, many of us have "been there, done that" and learned the hard way, as well.
So, piss and moan, rant and rave, then, when you've run out of steam, you'll see this as a valuable LIFE lesson. And then, hopefully, you'll try to NOT repeat the same. Doesn't always happen. We still have to learn some things the hard way.
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Because we ENJOY them enough in their original format and would LIKE to PLAY as that character. It's one of the things that draws us to what we like. IE I like cooking shows and like to cook.
The unfortunate thing is, here, you violate the rules if you create an EXACT clone of the character. Easy enough to toss a few minor alterations to allow you to play AS the character you like. Then, of course, you can be totally original, too.
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Spider-Bat.
Clearly inspired by both Spider-Man and Batman - yet clearly not going to be confused for either one. Parody rules can be fun!
Spider-Bat's former sidekick, Blackwing.
The homage to Nightwing is, I think, pretty clear - but again, the design still manages to be original.
The Ferrous Gentleman.
Steampunk Iron Man, using Victorian-era design cues. I also crafted his backstory to fit a steampunk style; the suit was originally designed by Charles Babbage, but like his Analytical Engine, it simply couldn't be built using the era's materials and manufacturing techniques. His descendant James Babbage found the designs in an old chest, and built it using modern technologies, with a few improvements...
So as I said, you can make an excellent homage without having to clone anybody.
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Ok, maybe i was not clear enough from he start. i DONT make copy heroes, aka clones, i make original ones, but my sin is, that they have one or 2 costumes that they are homages. Based on that, they deleted 10+ costumes in each toon they decided that it violates the terms with the one or 2 costumes. If u all think this is fair, i muist see things from a very different prespective. They had a problem with on or 2 costumes? send a email warning to change those, as they used to do, and if not, generic THOSE costumes, not all the others.
Also there is punish without doing anything which is a good one. Especially when it is a perma ban on an account with two exclusive pre-order aura's and over £500 put into it over time.
Shhh though, we aren't supposed to talk about bans.
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...and then you repeatedly pulled out this "I should get special privileges for being Gold" card and lost it.
I'm Lifetime, still spending money on the game, and I fully expect the same treatment as a Silver player because I expect userbase-wide treatment to be the same regarding rules. Nobody pays to get to break the rules or to get leeway on them. You don't get to pay for the right to break a rule, intentionally or otherwise, ever.
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And then they banned people for talking about banned people.
And then they planted a banner to make sure people understand that if you wanna ban for talking about banning and the banned people then you too will be banned because the banner said so.
And then I went off topic and used and at the start of every sentence.
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Perhaps learn how to make a proper homage. You were warned before...you only have yourself to blame this time.
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Seriously, I've heard of Navi being responsible for much, much worse. For once he was actually doing what he was supposed to be doing. Clones are against the TOS. If you can't deal with that? The door's over there....
Some advice, you should post your costume on the forums and get some advice from people to see if the name and costume are too close to the real deal. For instance, if your character's name is Forge Rider and his costume is like a spot-on Forge, you'll get nailed for that, for sure. I'm sure people will be happy to help you out.