- Chest Beam and Mini-Gun now debuffs Particle and Crushing resistance. This change was made to focus power debuffs on the type of damage they deal. Mini-Gun now does crushing damage. Shoulder Launcher's Fire damage portion has been changed to Particle.
Very strange to have Mini-Gun do crushing damage; all other 'gun' type weapons do piercing damage. Likewise shoulder launcher is visually similar to rocket launcher.
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
Between this and being affected by nttg, I'm thinking it's going to disappear from builds. Perhaps if Judgment wasn't dependent on Illumination.
- Strafing run has been reduced to 3 hits. Fixed a bug where each subsequent hit wasn't diminishing in damage. Strafing run now leaves a burning patch after dealing damage. This patch has a chance to apply clinging flames.
Can we get a means (perhaps an advantage) to have this power automatically fire at your current target, rather than being forced to click?
Between this and being affected by nttg, I'm thinking it's going to disappear from builds. Perhaps if Judgment wasn't dependent on Illumination.
I think / hope it'll still be useful as a get away quick type power where I can go from 0-100 and get out of a gank as soon as I can. With my kind of builds I have to get out of 100ft as soon as anyone starts hitting me.
Looking at the changes I can't help but hope one day FG will be nerfed to 50ft being by far better than any other gap closer and all. But OMG so many changes, you guys must have been so busy... Can't wait to give 'em a whirl.
- Skarn's Bane Buff and Energy Form removal have been replaced with a 20% chance every .5 seconds to apply a random debuff to affected targets. This was done as the buff removal was causing problems.
Wow that's a heavy hit to Skarn's functionality. Specifically when dealing with enemies like Ao'Qephoth. I'm going to reserve judgment to see what people's testing reveals.
Too bad I'm a Silver -- as I'd love to spend some testing these massive changes. You guys have been hard at work
Thanks for fixes but you forgot about about those abuses:
Tractor Beam - Ignores Knock Resistance Shockwave - Old Travel Power Removing Mechanics (perma tp removal) Sentinel Mastery - 5% of max hp heal per second, scales up to 25% hp per second on 5 targets. Not reducible by heal debuffs. Ice Grenades - Removes All Flying Travel Powers
Added: Experimental Blaster (gadgets) 1% transform proc works on players, which is pretty much the same as insta gibbing 1% advantage vs a player which was fixed. 2 Smoke Grenade debuffs on 1 player from 2 other players make it perma stealth disable, which is equal to crybaby nade that was nerfed.
And a new bug i noticed:
MAGICIANS DUST - old device that is pretty much a crybaby grenade equivalent + it removes all travel powers from enemy. Spark Shield states it should reflect 15%, but it reflects much less. Eruption doesn't root, it only applies root resistance. Regeneration Cores don't scale with rank, Teleios Lightning Rod device version doesn't move to target. Foxbat's Painball Gun device can't be used at all. Teleious Invention core mod seems to be doing nothing. Neutralizer Grenades do nothing.
And teh suggestion:
Speaking of Omicron/Psionic surge... Can we completely remove this tiny knock chance from them? They honestly serve no purpose except for giving your enemies free knock resistance... Honestly, we have plenty of RNG in this game already, so why do we need those tiny useless procs that increase an amount of RNG even more?
Please think about it, honestly those kinds of procs add no depth to game whatsoever and only add annoyance.
thank you. Ego sprites now gets affected by crit and severity.
on the other hand, I'll get even more aggro when I hit with them... meh. can't have everything. Thank you
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Not balancing Ebon Ruin's Trauma?
- Skarn's Bane Buff and Energy Form removal have been replaced with a 20% chance every .5 seconds to apply a random debuff to affected targets. This was done as the buff removal was causing problems.
NONOONONONO! FIX AO'QEPHOTH FIRST! and then Nerf Skarn's Bane!
I will NEVER EVER fight Aoqeface every again until he gets fixed or removed
- Hex of Suffering can no longer crit. It now gets a damage bonus based off of your crit chance and severity. Hex of Suffering now applies a magic resistance debuff.
that would be useful if Sorcery had MORE than 2 Attacks (Eldritch Blast and Skarn's Bane) no seriously, the Sorcery Trees need more magic attacks
Did you really had to remove the Critical? really now?
- Increased range of Sorcery aura passives to 100 ft.
Oh this will come in handy for Healers and Pet Masters
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
Now we are force to take the ADV to Heal other people or did the Self-healing part was removed
- Psionic Surge Reduced cooldown to 25 seconds. Adjusted knockback chance and strength to be more in line with Omicron Induced Strength.
YAY! My favorite Device got love, time for some Psi-bowling!
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And speaking of Manipulator and Sorcery
did Skarn's Bane (Warlock's Malice) and Hex of Suffering (Rank 2 and Rune of Lethargy) got fixed to Trigger Manipulator?
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- Skarn's Bane Buff and Energy Form removal have been replaced with a 20% chance every .5 seconds to apply a random debuff to affected targets. This was done as the buff removal was causing problems.
If you're taking the buff removal off Skarn's Bane, you either have to:
A: Show mathematical proof that Ao'Qephoth can be defeated in a burst alert without it, B: Significantly nerf Ao's burst-buffed healing powers, or C: Take Ao out of the burst alert rotation entirely.
The buff removal on Skarn's Bane was the only way to overcome Ao's heals in bursts. Without it, no 5-player team has enough DPS to succeed, and burst alerts will come to a screeching halt when Ao rotates in. (Well, even more so. I doubt many players are playing "Who's got Skarn's Bane?" now.)
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My Grimoire who tends to happily jump in to help Ao Bursts may be more hesitant now, though I understand that the current debuff breaks a few things. In followup questions:
D : Just what random buffs are in then Skarn's Bane rotation? Random heal debuffs may have worth but it won't be consistent. E: Just how strong will Hex of Suffering's debuff be? It might be enough if combined with the debuffs (and is intriguingly timed since I was going to suggest something similar) but that will need testing. F: The more interesting aside to this is just where does this leave Planar Fracture? Skarn's sounds like it's taking PF's job so it might be the right time for a balance adjustment there.
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2) To try to 'fix' those people using the (very) long time bug of 2GM (or any maintain) and Mini-Gun. They worked quite well together.
So now they use minigun/pulse beam rifle? The fix for PA toggles is to take the existing energy cost debuff built into all PA toggles, and adding a damage debuff to all non-slotted powers (you'd still be able to do it, but it would serve no useful purpose).
On the point made that there's so few attacks that deal Magic damage, I suggest changing the damaging Sigils to do Magic damage instead of their current damage types. Alternately, make Hex of Suffering debuff Paranormal damage as a whole instead of just Magic damage.
"Interesting builds are born from limitations not by letting players put everything into one build."
So overall Arcane sorcery got a rather.... potent nerf [the only power from the set that wasn't junk got its main function stripped] and there is no mention of PFF or the much needed buff it requires.
but hey, at least SR was made not as stupidly OP as it used to be.
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
Is one of the debuffs it applies Trauma? Because that would be helpful. If not Trauma should or something similar should be included. The Sorcery tree and the Grimoire AT are taking a heavy hit with this change.
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
To the current CO devs in case it's not known/remembered:
Ascension used to not have the healing AoE effect (not counting advantages). Then a change was made to make Ascension's flight effect able to be cancelled by Nailed to the Ground, which was logical. Unfortunately, NttG would also remove the buffs that Ascension grants to damage and healing.. The AoE healing effect was added to Ascension to compensate for the fact that it's AO buff can be stripped.
If you are going to remove this AoE healing, PLEASE consider doing something to compensate the NttG stripping effect, or fix it so that NttG does not remove the damage/healing buff.
Is one of the debuffs it applies Trauma? Because that would be helpful. If not Trauma should or something similar should be included. The Sorcery tree and the Grimoire AT are taking a heavy hit with this change.
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
To the current CO devs in case it's not known/remembered:
Ascension used to not have the healing AoE effect (not counting advantages). Then a change was made to make Ascension's flight effect able to be cancelled by Nailed to the Ground, which was logical. Unfortunately, NttG would also remove the buffs that Ascension grants to damage and healing.. The AoE healing effect was added to Ascension to compensate for the fact that it's AO buff can be stripped.
If you are going to remove this AoE healing, PLEASE consider doing something to compensate the NttG stripping effect, or fix it so that NttG does not remove the damage/healing buff.
Awww, no more Ascension or Skarn's . Welp, gotta lot of toons to go an retcon these powers out of
Buffing everything to stupid high levels and nerfing everything to piss poor levels yields the same results, but not the same community reactions.
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
To the current CO devs in case it's not known/remembered:
Ascension used to not have the healing AoE effect (not counting advantages). Then a change was made to make Ascension's flight effect able to be cancelled by Nailed to the Ground, which was logical. Unfortunately, NttG would also remove the buffs that Ascension grants to damage and healing.. The AoE healing effect was added to Ascension to compensate for the fact that it's AO buff can be stripped.
If you are going to remove this AoE healing, PLEASE consider doing something to compensate the NttG stripping effect, or fix it so that NttG does not remove the damage/healing buff.
A fix should be in next patch that prevents the heal/damage bonuses granted by ascension to be removed when the flight portion is removed.
Regarding the Ascension change, to utilize the heal effect from Judgement: - You need to take two powers, Illumination and Ascension - You need to spend 2 points for the Judgement advantage - You need to have previously applied Illumination to each target - You need to be extremely close to the Illuminated target(s) - After all of that setup, I'm getting a ~400 damage effect to nearby illuminated targets and a ~2000 point heal (toon has +91% heal advantage from PRE and equip) - This incredible effect is usable once every 90 seconds (call it 67s second with CDR)
Needless to say, Ascension is going from a handy "oh sh**" power to "not worth the slot". Please don't be stingy with the retcons with this patch.
OTOH, the scope of development effort in this patch is encouraging. Keep it up. Can't wait to try the new lair.
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Ascension didn't need a nerf, the aoe heal was great for getting a team out of a jam and it was one of the only useful heal AOs in the game.
Skarns bane also didn't need to be nerfed either, how about instead of taking the easy way out fixing the problems they were causing instead. Now even fewer players will be queuing up for Ao.
- Chest Beam and Mini-Gun now debuffs Particle and Crushing resistance. This change was made to focus power debuffs on the type of damage they deal. Mini-Gun now does crushing damage. Shoulder Launcher's Fire damage portion has been changed to Particle.
LAME. The fact that you have to change Mini-Gun's damage type nonsensically to make this work should be your first clue that this is a bad idea. This actively discourages mixing powers within the set, let alone nixing interesting combinations with other sets. I would go as far as to suggest that the mix of damage types in PA is the reason those powers' debuffs were untyped.
New version of Skarn's applied only the following debuffs when I used it: Shredded, Negative Ions, Chilled, Clinging Flames, Bleed, Deadly Poison, and Aftershock. It was also randomly granting Ego Leech as a buff.
that would be useful if Sorcery had MORE than 2 Attacks (Eldritch Blast and Skarn's Bane) no seriously, the Sorcery Trees need more magic attacks
Did you really had to remove the Critical? really now?
I don't know... For me this could be a little buff to the build that I main PvP wise Eldritch Blast Sonic Arrow... EB deals a ton of damage but the target just has to be CC'd, the problem is if a target can actually be CC'd in PvE then usually they die pretty fast anyway. But that's another problem, this change gives me the option to take the targets damage resistances even lower atleast.
Speaking of Omicron/Psionic surge... Can we completely remove this tiny knock chance from them? They honestly serve no purpose except for giving your enemies free knock resistance... Honestly, we have plenty of RNG in this game already, so why do we need those tiny useless procs that increase an amount of RNG even more?
Please think about it, honestly those kinds of procs add no depth to game whatsoever and only add annoyance.
did Skarn's Bane (Warlock's Malice) and Hex of Suffering (Rank 2 and Rune of Lethargy) got fixed to Trigger Manipulator?
No don't touch Skarn's Bane... at ALL. Or did people forget that fact that The Grimoire AT has this for a reason. :L Not that using it in Gravitar matters but still for anything else? I don't want this changed.
- Skarn's Bane Buff and Energy Form removal have been replaced with a 20% chance every .5 seconds to apply a random debuff to affected targets. This was done as the buff removal was causing problems.
If you're taking the buff removal off Skarn's Bane, you either have to:
A: Show mathematical proof that Ao'Qephoth can be defeated in a burst alert without it, B: Significantly nerf Ao's burst-buffed healing powers, or C: Take Ao out of the burst alert rotation entirely.
The buff removal on Skarn's Bane was the only way to overcome Ao's heals in bursts. Without it, no 5-player team has enough DPS to succeed, and burst alerts will come to a screeching halt when Ao rotates in. (Well, even more so. I doubt many players are playing "Who's got Skarn's Bane?" now.)
^^ This. I had one of bluegrassbeast's builds on Red River one of my characters, that was 2gm-Lead Tempest, dual AO cycling damage which was good for dealing with Ao and his OP healing nonsense. Now that the CDR is set in stone, I honestly don't have any other builds to compensate for this guy now, not even my main Cassandra Elena or my Destroid.
And removing this from the AT isn't going to encourage anyone to play this AT/use the power now. This guy seriously needs to go from the rotation, it's not really difficulty, if I wanted to play something that was "hard" or "challenging" I need only pop the disk of Vexx into my original Xbox.
Not with that bind -- that one will just fire where your cursor is pointed at the time you hit the key, but you still have to move your cursor on top of the target. There's no bind you can use to center your cursor on a target.
Skarns banes new function isn't even remotely as useful as it's original. Random debuffs on things that die before the debuff is actually useful is useless.
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Seconded re: the proposed changes to Skarn's Bane. I have several toons with this power, including a lvl 40 grimoire AT, and I've never come across any "problems" as a result of the power. It has already been nerfed at least once before - IIRC it removed Gravitar's Force Manipulation powers - but doing it again to make Ao'Q more difficult, to the point where it's just a beefed up Planar Fracture, seems excessive. I would suggest that the application of random debuffs will not only remove the main utility from an entire AT class but will also become a "team obnoxious" power, removing and resetting other people's power debuffs and combo effects (will have to try this out).
So basically Ascension was Downgraded from a useful Team Support power to a Gimmicky Mess
Woopty Freaking Doo
You could REMOVE THE SELF HEALING aspect of Ascension and make it only heal ALLIES
Sorcery is jammed up with the Scarn's Bane and Hex of Suffering Nerf
Magical Resistance Debuff for 2 whole powers, WOW
At least Ebon Ruin's Paranormal Paranoia apply debuff for all Paranormal Damage and works for Ego, Magic and Dimensional
But Sorcery has only 2 ATTACKS!
Ego damage comes from both Telekinesis-Telepathy
Dimensional damage comes from both Darkness and Celestial
Magic Damage...
I think its time Sorcery powersets to get more ATTACKS and Utilities
No don't touch Skarn's Bane... at ALL. Or did people forget that fact that The Grimoire AT has this for a reason. :L Not that using it in Gravitar matters but still for anything else? I don't want this changed.
Im asking them to fix the Synergy between Manipulator and Sorcery powers there
I don't know... For me this could be a little buff to the build that I main PvP wise Eldritch Blast Sonic Arrow... EB deals a ton of damage but the target just has to be CC'd, the problem is if a target can actually be CC'd in PvE then usually they die pretty fast anyway. But that's another problem, this change gives me the option to take the targets damage resistances even lower atleast.
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The change to skarn's bane makes it a better power in more circumstance in my opinion. The only real (big) problem is that so many people used it as a "Ao'Q-B-Gone" power, and now it totally lost that ability. However, keep in mind that Skarn's Bane shouldn't be relegated to being the anti Ao'Q power, he should be fixed on his own. Getting a 20% chance for debuffs every half second is much more useful than removing energy forms since removing energy forms is a niche ability.
I've been testing it out and the changes are useful as a solo player in general play. Generally my method is to hit mobs with Hex of Suffering (which has a chance to root) and then use Skarn's as the main attack. Energy form removal is moot as most mobs don't have those - and in that case, the debuffs are an useful form of extra damage - particularly as they seem to stack, so you can have Bleed and Deadly Poison, etc at the same time. There may also be some handy synergy with specialisations like Expose, which increases the number of Critical Hits.
However I do wonder about boss fights and Alert balancing. Need more people to queue for Alerts/Rampages on PTS so that we can measure those effects.
Getting a random debuff that won't have a chance to actually be useful is not more useful then having an aoe dispel, that was also useful against mobs that use damage increasing buffs (*Like the leader bots*).
I'm not surprised at these changes. (Yes, I saw these Telepathy changes a mile off (and the ones to come), gotta keep the status quo after all).
I cannot wait to see the amount of free retcons that are shipped out to players once they decide to go LIVE with this.
I expect this to be in testing for a couple of months before being shipped to LIVE.
Anyway:
- Manipulator's duration has been reduced to 20 seconds to match other forms.
The reason why Manipulator's duration was..., Actually I'm not going to go there, I'll just wait.
- Updated Massacre's tooltips. Reduced damage variance of the power so damage is more consistent. - The shredded debuff now debuffs slashing and physical resistance. Reapplying the debuff no longer extends the duration. Duration increased to 15 seconds.
Re-applying the buff will still refresh it right? If so then great.
- Crybaby grenades should now function like regular Smoke Grenade.
Having had access to both forms of this ability, I think this is a good change.
- Chest Beam and Mini-Gun now debuffs Particle and Crushing resistance. This change was made to focus power debuffs on the type of damage they deal. Mini-Gun now does crushing damage. Shoulder Launcher's Fire damage portion has been changed to Particle.
This is a change I am happy to see, more in-set synergy within PA. Mini-Gun dealing crushing damage is...weird but I do have a question.
Does this mean that innately Mini-Gun debuffs now? Or is this via the advantage?
- Fiery Form now has a chance to apply clinging flames when hit by an attack.
Very nice change, I assume this is at all ranges?
- Added Kzash Hounds as a pet option for Command Animals.
- Ascension no longer innately heals. This change was made because Ascension is a active offense, not a active defense. The heal portion is supposed to be wrapped up in the advantage. The Judgement advantage heal has been increased.
This is a really large change, has it been considered that instead of changing it's function, you can change it's classification?
Ascension IMO, should be in a new category: "Active Healing". Allow it to create a burst of healing to all and then apply HoT healing to self and previously healed allies.
- Celestial Cleansing's buff dispel has been replaced with a damage debuff. This was done due to issues the buff dispel was causing.
Good.
- Corrected various -travel abilities to properly remove ascension's flight buff.
Interesting...
- Ego Sleep no longer incorrectly goes through blocking.
Despite knowing for sure that this will happen due to certain changes, I maintain that this is a bad move. Change it so that Ego Sleep only bypasses blocking at Rank 3 w/ full charge. It was a unique aspect of the power and actually helps in certain PvE situations, when enemies block.
- Hex of Suffering can no longer crit. It now gets a damage bonus based off of your crit chance and severity. Hex of Suffering now applies a magic resistance debuff.
When I saw this being mentioned I honestly hoped it would be a massive change to the power, perhaps making it Tier 3 worthy like a Typhoon style magical attack. However it has been made to work like SoD/ML/MS. So it now seems like the Sorcery version of Mental Storm.
- Increased range of Sorcery aura passives to 100 ft.
This is a very good move, thank you.
- Mental Storm's damage has been reduced to be more in line with other damage over time powers.
So it has been nerfed because it was a decently powerful power for Telepathy. Not too surprised. (You know I had to take that angle, tbf I know that on certain builds it is very strong so yeah.)
- Ego Sprites has been changes to a pbaoe power. Its damage now takes into account your crit and severity.
This is basically a massive reversion to Beta days and then some, I think this may be a good thing, however for Mind AT's and for general purpose, this should be highlighted as it is a massive change to how the power is "known" to work for most.
- Skarn's Bane Buff and Energy Form removal have been replaced with a 20% chance every .5 seconds to apply a random debuff to affected targets. This was done as the buff removal was causing problems.
This...is a really really bad idea. Seeing as there has been no adjustment to it's energy cost per tick and aside from Ebon Ruin, it was the go-to power for fighting enemies who were incredibly annoying...this entire change needs to be thought through a lot better or well, this power will become useless.
There's no need to Telepathize this power. Consider doing something MORE with it. For example:
Skarn's Bane - Deals continuous magical damage to enemies in a cone in front of you, weakening their connection to this plane of existence, reducing their ability to defend (Skarn's Bane applies the debuffs in this change) and heal themselves (Skarn's Bane now becomes a reliable applicator of Trauma for the healing part). At the end of this powerful spell you have a 50% chance to apply "Banishment" to affected targets. (Banishment is a DISABLE! effect which works on Henchmen, Villain, Enforcer & Master Villain targets ONLY. Banishment will apply a magic resistance debuff to higher level targets such as Players, Super Villains, Legendary & Cosmic Rank foes.)
Rank 2 - Increases as per usual
Rank 3 - Increases as per usual.
"New" Advantage - Arcane Master - Your chance to apply Banishment to targets is increased by 100% (2 pt advantage)
- Orbital Cannon now applies Plasma Burn and has a 40% chance per tick to apply it with Anvil of Dawn.
In addition to this can you PLEASE decrease the spawn time of the Orbital Cannon entity or SOMETHING to it will always hit targets? Perhaps have the marker apply a solid root to enemies?
Getting a random debuff that won't have a chance to actually be useful is not more useful then having an aoe dispel, that was also useful against mobs that use damage increasing buffs (*Like the leader bots*)
I was trying the MC Destroids open mission on PTS and having some success - there was a definite increase in damage and certain buffs still seemed to be removed (not just Energy Forms). Will compare with the current power on live and see what the differences are.
Warning: This still apply's on LIVE & PTS, DO NOT REMOVE!
Bugs:
Mind Control Still does not have any SFX/Sounds & Bugs still apply from last topic (PLEASE FIX THIS, ITS HINDERING MY BUILDS!) Shadow Of Dout Does not have any SFX/Sounds: Unsure of any bugs of yet
Never the less, the changes look nice, tho I have to ask Force, are the new TP changes bad or good?, cuz I have a build that solidly uses TP powers, & the Bug with Mind Control atm is really hindering my build, to unable to use it.
So, Strafing Run is kinda nerfed, huh. Meanwhile leaving patch seems interesting. Here's another request: why not to try to compensate that make it working with Targeting Computer? It's ranged technology attack after all. I understand, it spawns entity, but Orbital Cannon does same.
l've a wind guess, that code which allows Orbital Cannon to benefit from it is listed here as "Critical Severity Enhancement", although it does nothing with Critical Severity probably. Why not just copypaste it to Strafing Run & see what happens? If it won't work out by any means then leave SR w/out TC benefits, but it's worth to try lMO just out of curiosity.
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Looking at the changes I can't help but hope one day FG will be nerfed to 50ft being by far better than any other gap closer and all. But OMG so many changes, you guys must have been so busy... Can't wait to give 'em a whirl.
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1) No other power in PA does Piercing. Why should it debuff Piercing when the only power it would help (inside the set) would be itself?
2) To try to 'fix' those people using the (very) long time bug of 2GM (or any maintain) and Mini-Gun. They worked quite well together.
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Wow that's a heavy hit to Skarn's functionality. Specifically when dealing with enemies like Ao'Qephoth. I'm going to reserve judgment to see what people's testing reveals.
Too bad I'm a Silver -- as I'd love to spend some testing these massive changes. You guys have been hard at work
Tractor Beam - Ignores Knock Resistance
Shockwave - Old Travel Power Removing Mechanics (perma tp removal)
Sentinel Mastery - 5% of max hp heal per second, scales up to 25% hp per second on 5 targets. Not reducible by heal debuffs.
Ice Grenades - Removes All Flying Travel Powers
Added:
Experimental Blaster (gadgets) 1% transform proc works on players, which is pretty much the same as insta gibbing 1% advantage vs a player which was fixed.
2 Smoke Grenade debuffs on 1 player from 2 other players make it perma stealth disable, which is equal to crybaby nade that was nerfed.
And a new bug i noticed:
MAGICIANS DUST - old device that is pretty much a crybaby grenade equivalent + it removes all travel powers from enemy.
Spark Shield states it should reflect 15%, but it reflects much less.
Eruption doesn't root, it only applies root resistance.
Regeneration Cores don't scale with rank,
Teleios Lightning Rod device version doesn't move to target.
Foxbat's Painball Gun device can't be used at all.
Teleious Invention core mod seems to be doing nothing.
Neutralizer Grenades do nothing.
And teh suggestion:
Speaking of Omicron/Psionic surge... Can we completely remove this tiny knock chance from them? They honestly serve no purpose except for giving your enemies free knock resistance... Honestly, we have plenty of RNG in this game already, so why do we need those tiny useless procs that increase an amount of RNG even more?
Please think about it, honestly those kinds of procs add no depth to game whatsoever and only add annoyance.
on the other hand, I'll get even more aggro when I hit with them... meh. can't have everything. Thank you
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NONOONONONO! FIX AO'QEPHOTH FIRST! and then Nerf Skarn's Bane!
I will NEVER EVER fight Aoqeface every again until he gets fixed or removed
that would be useful if Sorcery had MORE than 2 Attacks (Eldritch Blast and Skarn's Bane) no seriously, the Sorcery Trees need more magic attacks
Did you really had to remove the Critical? really now?
Oh this will come in handy for Healers and Pet Masters
Now we are force to take the ADV to Heal other people or did the Self-healing part was removed
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did Skarn's Bane (Warlock's Malice) and Hex of Suffering (Rank 2 and Rune of Lethargy) got fixed to Trigger Manipulator?
A: Show mathematical proof that Ao'Qephoth can be defeated in a burst alert without it,
B: Significantly nerf Ao's burst-buffed healing powers, or
C: Take Ao out of the burst alert rotation entirely.
The buff removal on Skarn's Bane was the only way to overcome Ao's heals in bursts. Without it, no 5-player team has enough DPS to succeed, and burst alerts will come to a screeching halt when Ao rotates in. (Well, even more so. I doubt many players are playing "Who's got Skarn's Bane?" now.)
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D : Just what random buffs are in then Skarn's Bane rotation? Random heal debuffs may have worth but it won't be consistent.
E: Just how strong will Hex of Suffering's debuff be? It might be enough if combined with the debuffs (and is intriguingly timed since I was going to suggest something similar) but that will need testing.
F: The more interesting aside to this is just where does this leave Planar Fracture? Skarn's sounds like it's taking PF's job so it might be the right time for a balance adjustment there.
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* Still provides flight in normal settings
* Still provides attack and heal bonuses
* No longer provides burst healing
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** Judgment Advantage does nothing: does not consume Illuminations on self, allies, or enemies; there is no effect
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but hey, at least SR was made not as stupidly OP as it used to be.
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Yeah some things are broken... no I don't use/abuse them.. where would be the fun in that?
Is one of the debuffs it applies Trauma? Because that would be helpful. If not Trauma should or something similar should be included. The Sorcery tree and the Grimoire AT are taking a heavy hit with this change.
Ascension used to not have the healing AoE effect (not counting advantages). Then a change was made to make Ascension's flight effect able to be cancelled by Nailed to the Ground, which was logical. Unfortunately, NttG would also remove the buffs that Ascension grants to damage and healing.. The AoE healing effect was added to Ascension to compensate for the fact that it's AO buff can be stripped.
If you are going to remove this AoE healing, PLEASE consider doing something to compensate the NttG stripping effect, or fix it so that NttG does not remove the damage/healing buff.
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Ascension used to not have the healing AoE effect (not counting advantages). Then a change was made to make Ascension's flight effect able to be cancelled by Nailed to the Ground, which was logical. Unfortunately, NttG would also remove the buffs that Ascension grants to damage and healing.. The AoE healing effect was added to Ascension to compensate for the fact that it's AO buff can be stripped.
If you are going to remove this AoE healing, PLEASE consider doing something to compensate the NttG stripping effect, or fix it so that NttG does not remove the damage/healing buff.
Awww, no more Ascension or Skarn's . Welp, gotta lot of toons to go an retcon these powers out of
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A fix should be in next patch that prevents the heal/damage bonuses granted by ascension to be removed when the flight portion is removed.
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- You need to take two powers, Illumination and Ascension
- You need to spend 2 points for the Judgement advantage
- You need to have previously applied Illumination to each target
- You need to be extremely close to the Illuminated target(s)
- After all of that setup, I'm getting a ~400 damage effect to nearby illuminated targets and a ~2000 point heal (toon has +91% heal advantage from PRE and equip)
- This incredible effect is usable once every 90 seconds (call it 67s second with CDR)
Needless to say, Ascension is going from a handy "oh sh**" power to "not worth the slot". Please don't be stingy with the retcons with this patch.
OTOH, the scope of development effort in this patch is encouraging. Keep it up. Can't wait to try the new lair.
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Skarns bane also didn't need to be nerfed either, how about instead of taking the easy way out fixing the problems they were causing instead. Now even fewer players will be queuing up for Ao.
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Please think about it, honestly those kinds of procs add no depth to game whatsoever and only add annoyance.
- Skarn's Bane energy form removal will make Ao'Qephoth impossible to beat on Burst Rad-Rumbles...
A: Show mathematical proof that Ao'Qephoth can be defeated in a burst alert without it,
B: Significantly nerf Ao's burst-buffed healing powers, or
C: Take Ao out of the burst alert rotation entirely.
The buff removal on Skarn's Bane was the only way to overcome Ao's heals in bursts. Without it, no 5-player team has enough DPS to succeed, and burst alerts will come to a screeching halt when Ao rotates in. (Well, even more so. I doubt many players are playing "Who's got Skarn's Bane?" now.)
^^ This. I had one of bluegrassbeast's builds on Red River one of my characters, that was 2gm-Lead Tempest, dual AO cycling damage which was good for dealing with Ao and his OP healing nonsense. Now that the CDR is set in stone, I honestly don't have any other builds to compensate for this guy now, not even my main Cassandra Elena or my Destroid.
And removing this from the AT isn't going to encourage anyone to play this AT/use the power now. This guy seriously needs to go from the rotation, it's not really difficulty, if I wanted to play something that was "hard" or "challenging" I need only pop the disk of Vexx into my original Xbox.
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You could REMOVE THE SELF HEALING aspect of Ascension and make it only heal ALLIES
Sorcery is jammed up with the Scarn's Bane and Hex of Suffering Nerf
Magical Resistance Debuff for 2 whole powers, WOW
At least Ebon Ruin's Paranormal Paranoia apply debuff for all Paranormal Damage and works for Ego, Magic and Dimensional
But Sorcery has only 2 ATTACKS!
Ego damage comes from both Telekinesis-Telepathy
Dimensional damage comes from both Darkness and Celestial
Magic Damage...
I think its time Sorcery powersets to get more ATTACKS and Utilities
Im asking them to fix the Synergy between Manipulator and Sorcery powers there
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However I do wonder about boss fights and Alert balancing. Need more people to queue for Alerts/Rampages on PTS so that we can measure those effects.
I cannot wait to see the amount of free retcons that are shipped out to players once they decide to go LIVE with this.
I expect this to be in testing for a couple of months before being shipped to LIVE.
Anyway:
The reason why Manipulator's duration was..., Actually I'm not going to go there, I'll just wait. Re-applying the buff will still refresh it right? If so then great. Having had access to both forms of this ability, I think this is a good change. This is a change I am happy to see, more in-set synergy within PA. Mini-Gun dealing crushing damage is...weird but I do have a question.Does this mean that innately Mini-Gun debuffs now? Or is this via the advantage? Very nice change, I assume this is at all ranges? This is a really large change, has it been considered that instead of changing it's function, you can change it's classification?
Ascension IMO, should be in a new category: "Active Healing". Allow it to create a burst of healing to all and then apply HoT healing to self and previously healed allies.
Good. Interesting... Despite knowing for sure that this will happen due to certain changes, I maintain that this is a bad move. Change it so that Ego Sleep only bypasses blocking at Rank 3 w/ full charge. It was a unique aspect of the power and actually helps in certain PvE situations, when enemies block.
When I saw this being mentioned I honestly hoped it would be a massive change to the power, perhaps making it Tier 3 worthy like a Typhoon style magical attack. However it has been made to work like SoD/ML/MS. So it now seems like the Sorcery version of Mental Storm.
This is a very good move, thank you. So it has been nerfed because it was a decently powerful power for Telepathy. Not too surprised. (You know I had to take that angle, tbf I know that on certain builds it is very strong so yeah.) This is basically a massive reversion to Beta days and then some, I think this may be a good thing, however for Mind AT's and for general purpose, this should be highlighted as it is a massive change to how the power is "known" to work for most.
This...is a really really bad idea. Seeing as there has been no adjustment to it's energy cost per tick and aside from Ebon Ruin, it was the go-to power for fighting enemies who were incredibly annoying...this entire change needs to be thought through a lot better or well, this power will become useless.
There's no need to Telepathize this power. Consider doing something MORE with it. For example:
Skarn's Bane - Deals continuous magical damage to enemies in a cone in front of you, weakening their connection to this plane of existence, reducing their ability to defend (Skarn's Bane applies the debuffs in this change) and heal themselves (Skarn's Bane now becomes a reliable applicator of Trauma for the healing part). At the end of this powerful spell you have a 50% chance to apply "Banishment" to affected targets. (Banishment is a DISABLE! effect which works on Henchmen, Villain, Enforcer & Master Villain targets ONLY. Banishment will apply a magic resistance debuff to higher level targets such as Players, Super Villains, Legendary & Cosmic Rank foes.)
Rank 2 - Increases as per usual
Rank 3 - Increases as per usual.
"New" Advantage - Arcane Master - Your chance to apply Banishment to targets is increased by 100% (2 pt advantage)
In addition to this can you PLEASE decrease the spawn time of the Orbital Cannon entity or SOMETHING to it will always hit targets? Perhaps have the marker apply a solid root to enemies?
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I was trying the MC Destroids open mission on PTS and having some success - there was a definite increase in damage and certain buffs still seemed to be removed (not just Energy Forms). Will compare with the current power on live and see what the differences are.
Bugs:
Mind Control Still does not have any SFX/Sounds & Bugs still apply from last topic (PLEASE FIX THIS, ITS HINDERING MY BUILDS!)
Shadow Of Dout Does not have any SFX/Sounds: Unsure of any bugs of yet
Never the less, the changes look nice, tho I have to ask Force, are the new TP changes bad or good?, cuz I have a build that solidly uses TP powers, & the Bug with Mind Control atm is really hindering my build, to unable to use it.
l've a wind guess, that code which allows Orbital Cannon to benefit from it is listed here as "Critical Severity Enhancement", although it does nothing with Critical Severity probably. Why not just copypaste it to Strafing Run & see what happens? If it won't work out by any means then leave SR w/out TC benefits, but it's worth to try lMO just out of curiosity.