OK .... Champions? The website or whole game? If the game is blocked, then what will be your plan to return paid fees which include Gold-Sub and C-store points)? If no money is going to be returned, then may I consider the block action as a crime? 'Cause money is paid and uses cannot enjoy the services. You need to announce the new much earilier (6 months eariler....ex: if I just paid 6 months yesterday, and I know I'm going to be block very soon) and let players from those regions have chance to manage money and stop paying.
While I agree with your sentiment and feel upset about this as well (though, I apparently will not be affected as far as I can tell), I'm afraid that may have been covered by the following portions of the ToS:
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Cryptic reserves the right to deny, in its sole discretion, your access to your Account and/or the Site and/or the Service without notice for and/or any or no reason (including, without limitation, for violation of this Agreement).
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...and probably other stuff, but I stopped looking at this point...
Standard legal butt covering in case they can't/won't continue to provide you the service you already paid for, for any reason.
At some point, yes, you will need to merge accounts.
You should not be surprised at all that Perfect World Entertainment blocks China as a Region. Especially when Perfect World is owned by a company, with the same name, which happens to provide the precise services we provide, to China. Essentially, Chinese players can still play most of PWE's offerings, as they all are ran by the parent company is China as well.
The US based company is who owns Cryptic, and it's entirely possible that the parent company based in China may at some point pick up Champs to serve it's customers in China.
Thanks,
Stormshade
What about STO, will it be affected too? If so, there is no hint of it there, just a passive suggestion that it is possible to merge accounts.
While I agree with your sentiment and feel upset about this as well (though, I apparently will not be affected as far as I can tell), I'm afraid that may have been covered by the following portions of the ToS:
...and probably other stuff, but I stopped looking at this point...
Standard legal butt covering in case they can't/won't continue to provide you the service you already paid for, for any reason.
Well, there are differences. If the decision is made by Cryptic, I won't argue about it. However, currently, the incoming block is due to the trandered ownership and the policy of the new owner. If there is any important policy is going to be announced, they should offically tell all uses/players what will happen on their main policies. Don't forget the rules/policies you provided/which we agreee with are based on the confidance in Cryptic, but not in PWE.
And, I'm not really upset. I just feel sorry for some of my asian friends. They knew and joined this game because of me. They do enjoy the gameplay environment and content of CO. I know one who just transfered forty pounds to C points three weeks ago. Some of them became Gold. They spent money to support a potentially the best herogame company(well, maybe after this event, it and its owner will both be considered worst by these minority). However, they cannot have a good ending.
The fact that this is coming out in dribs and drabs with no official notification other than forums is so is beyond ridiculous. You have people shelling out money that won't know that one day, they aren't going to be able to play anymore, for both CO and STO.
Also, what's the procedure to have an account name changed?
I can simply answer the reasons and the frauds StormShade mentioned. Besides the games developed by Cryptics, all other PWE's games were developed by Korean comompanies and Chinese Companies (PWE's studio). Those game implement in Asia earilier.
I'm no programmer, but there is something strange. It seems that Korean or Chinese MMORPGs are so easily to be hacked. The codes are so easily to be penetrated to develop hack programmes or Bots. The most significant example is AION, which stayed at the TOP 1 (in South Korea) in continuous 20+ months. How did such Korea top 1 game perform in western countries? If you did play US or EU version of AION, you had to know what happened in the first half year. Gold spammers and BOTs were everywhere. Those programmes and bots were basically developed by some minor Chinese or Korean studios.
Therefore, if PWE doesn't block those regions, it is very possible for players from those regions to use hack programmes or bots or their acknowledge of the games in Asian version to win the competition in the beginning of the games. As a result, those games will die quickly due to the unfair competition and horrible gameplay environment. It is really reasonable for PWE to block those regions to establish better quailties of those games for players.
However, I need to say the experience from PWE's games should not be suitable for Cryptic's games. The reason is simple -- Hero games and scientific fiction games do not have great amount of potential customers in those regions. NCsoft tried to introduce City of Heros to asian market. Chinese and Korean offical websites were already made. However, NCsoft didn't make it. Said simply, super heros and super villains (or we need to define them strictly -- American Super Heros) are never a part of those regions' culture. What is Koreans want -- look at AION. What's Chinese want -- look at Jade Dynasty, or some other Kungfu games.
Did CO really suffer attacks and fraud attempts which were mainly from those regions? I doubt it. Therefore, under the situation that there might be just few fans or potential customers, are those experience from PWE's games really suitable for STO, CO, and Neverwinter? Is it necessary for STO/CO/NW to block those regions? I strongly doubt it.
I'm no programmer, but there is something strange. It seems that Korean or Chinese MMORPGs are so easily to be hacked.
Not the real reason. Real hacks have been done at the SOE, Trion or Frogster Website last year. What happend
in Aion was mostly that people downloaded a keylogger, what may happend through things like an old Flash Player.
Also for example the Aion-Source DB was hacked and Aion-Source also had ADs for a while that injected
keyloggers to computers that were not really secure.
The problem why this all happens is mostly that these games are really grind heavy, and so a lot of people
would rather buy there ingame gold instead of grind themself.
At CO for long time everyone said : there is absolute nothing for that you need ingame money besides retcons
and costume changes, and when i started playing it was totally fine if you had your 200g that you earned
while leveling up to 40.
However this has also a little changed if we look at current discussions about the global limit for silvers
and the closing of the collossus farming.
Standard legal butt covering in case they can't/won't continue to provide you the service you already paid for, for any reason.
EULA's don't hold up in court, but good luck suing someone from the US while you're from somewhere like Russia. The legal fees would end up costing more than the money you lost and it would drag on forever. Best you can do is create a PR nightmare for the company if you're determined and/or know the right people.
So interesting note, I went to the PWE website to register, and it tells me I can't, because I'm not in an acceptable region. Now I know living on a boat can be a bit odd sometimes, but I just checked outside, and its Still Alabama....so....What the crap is going on here?
Am I going to get banned from service even though I'm in the US?
So interesting note, I went to the PWE website to register, and it tells me I can't, because I'm not in an acceptable region. Now I know living on a boat can be a bit odd sometimes, but I just checked outside, and its Still Alabama....so....What the crap is going on here?
Am I going to get banned from service even though I'm in the US?
Where you are for them is more a question of what IP-Range your ISP is using.
Where you are for them is more a question of what IP-Range your ISP is using.
According to my IP Address I'm sitting in Hunstville, Alabama. There's no concievable reason Not to think I'm from the US. Particulary because I AM in the US.
I submitted an email to customer service. We'll see if the issue is resolved...
According to my IP Address I'm sitting in Hunstville, Alabama. There's no concievable reason Not to think I'm from the US. Particulary because I AM in the US.
I submitted an email to customer service. We'll see if the issue is resolved...
Yeah best you can do. Also tell them the name of your provider and your IP in the ticket so they can check that.
Yeah best you can do. Also tell them the name of your provider and your IP in the ticket so they can check that.
Yeah, I provided my IP in the email. I suspect its just a bug in their system. The real question will be if they feel motivated to fix the bug, or just tell me to shove off. I've had enough dealings with customer service to know it can go either way...
Edit: I'm a little bit irritated because I wanted to try out one of their sword and sorcery MMOs. Could use a low mainence side project to keep me entertained.
Edit: I'm a little bit irritated because I wanted to try out one of their sword and sorcery MMOs. Could use a low mainence side project to keep me entertained.
The original Perfect World Game had at least one of the best editor for facial customisation. However it still
was very grind heavy. I never understood why they didn't used the facial editor in their later games
Well, it seems more glitches are gone now.
No more double "account" links or double login sites (forum AND game sites).
Seems to be working as intended...
...For now
I'd like to point out though the lack of documentation on the changes is non existant.
It would be nice if things changed under PWI, guess this isn't one of them :rolleyes:
I usually do not log into the forums unless I come across a thread or post that inspires me to respond. Now if I wish to respond and log in I have to find where I was instead of being kept in the thread I wanted to respond to.Terrible implementation IMO.
top of all this. what if and when we do merge accounts. will an account people who have had with PWI for years and is banned do to falsification still be banned from even this game when merged or will that be lifted. I have been banned from PWI for over 4 months and did nothing to deserve this nor did i get notification of why i was being banned. Even trying to get it unbanned has lead to nothing but misleads from PWI emails on what to do.
I usually do not log into the forums unless I come across a thread or post that inspires me to respond. Now if I wish to respond and log in I have to find where I was instead of being kept in the thread I wanted to respond to.Terrible implementation IMO.
Hit the back button in your browser to return to the page and then F5 to refresh.
I'd like to know why I have to use the captch every time I log in. It's rather off-putting.
Because your account and forum login are the same. It is safer even if really annoying. Well... I can't even say it is safer given the reduced version they are using that is hacked/out dated.
What does that really mean for my LTA or for using the C-Store ? Will that all now work via PWE ?
I clicked cancel on this the first time I saw it and now I no longer see it show up when I log in anymore. Is there another way to link them? I've looked everywhere on the websites, but I think i screwed myself over by canceling this...
top of all this. what if and when we do merge accounts. will an account people who have had with PWI for years and is banned do to falsification still be banned from even this game when merged or will that be lifted. I have been banned from PWI for over 4 months and did nothing to deserve this nor did i get notification of why i was being banned. Even trying to get it unbanned has lead to nothing but misleads from PWI emails on what to do.
I simply wouldn't even try to merge it with a banned account .. would you really try it ? Also if the account
is banned you maybe also even shouldn't be able to login with it to try it.
Because your account and forum login are the same. It is safer even if really annoying. Well... I can't even say it is safer given the reduced version they are using that is hacked/out dated.
They were before as well and there was never any captcha. Also, logging into the forums also logged you in the main website.
While I do not mind having to be redirected to some place else to log in, I do mind having to do the captcha every single time.
I also mind having to do a captcha every time I send a PM when I am not in game. It's tedious and annoying.
We don't have that bad of a gold problem and I doubt we ever will.
When that happens, I expect Cryptic to do an automatic merger that will in no way change what I need to type to log in.
Nor change our forum or in-game handles. I'm usually not one to sweat things but this whole merger thing makes me very uneasy. And what if you don't have a PWE account? Will you be forced to make one? What if your current Cryptic handle isn't available in PWE? We *we* be forced to change it, or will *they*? Or will we have 2, one for CO games and one for PWE games?
As I have seen it posted somewhere on the forum, what happens to the people who are forced to merge and their Cryptic Log-in name is held by someone else already on PWE?
Why should someone be forced not only to merge, but to change their login?
As I have seen it posted somewhere on the forum, what happens to the people who are forced to merge and their Cryptic Log-in name is held by someone else already on PWE?
Why should someone be forced not only to merge, but to change their login?
I guess this is basically what some of us have been trying to ask.
Ok, so Cryptic got sold to another company. Fine. But why do I have to change my account/login information because of it?
There was a thread recently that asked the question:
I never replied to that thread because I wasn't sure (plus Ive been trying to cut down on my posting). There have been some things I've been unhappy about this game since I bought by LTS, but I still would have subbed so I figured I don't exactly regret it (though, it would definitely have been better to buy it at launch than less than a year ago when I did).
Now this topic comes up, and see how people from some countries might get banned without notification (we only even know of this because the issue came up in this thread, but there might be people from those countries throwing money at Cryptic games right now without knowing they might not have access to their investment in the near future). And I may have to change my login information from the one I've become accostumed to using in every game I play regularly.
Its becoming more and more like the answer to that LTS question would be a definite NO*
*and I DO NOT recommend it to ANYONE reading this at this point.
I didn't much care for the taste of carrots when I was a child. But instead of not eating them any more I decided to eat them all of the time just because it gave me the chance to tell everyone how crap they were in between bites.
(...)Now this topic comes up, and see how people from some countries might get banned without notification (we only even know of this because the issue came up in this thread, but there might be people from those countries throwing money at Cryptic games right now without knowing they might not have access to their investment in the near future). And I may have to change my login information from the one I've become accostumed to using in every game I play regularly.
Its becoming more and more like the answer to that LTS question would be a definite NO*
*and I DO NOT recommend it to ANYONE reading this at this point.
I understand your feeling and I feel sorry for you but ahem, you know? It's also part of the risk of LTS.
This merge makes sense.
Now the area ip block is another matter that certainly deserves to be informed more clearly (and hum, be happy CO is not part of Nexon, for example).
If I hadn't decided to log in and chance upon this thread, I would never have known about the eventual obligatory merge, of which I echo most of the posters here that I don't play any PW games, CO is the only game I play.
Most important of all is the region block. That would hurt for some of my lifer friends. CO isn't exactly the most populated MMO out there and here you are handing out restrictions as to who you want to see in your game?
Seriously, I love this game, I LOVE it so much that I can just log in and stand there for hours chatting up with other champions, or just fly around, or just fidgeting and tweaking some powers in PH for hours end.
But this is making me really sad, not because I'm from those regions, but I feel for them.
p/s - and to think all these rather important "announcements" should be up on the main page and even the launcher page, but no, just thrown around in bits and pieces of incomplete info by a community rep. Great communication there, I suppose.
I have to say I'm wary of giving my personal info, including credit card information, to a company that's headquartered in a country with a totalitarian government. Of course, with Perfect World's acquisition of Cryptic the horse has already bolted, but somehow merging my Cryptic account with PWEs makes it seem more final. It doesn't help that I have personal experience with PRC business ethics, as a friend's business fell victim to industrial espionage by a Chinese company, and a second one has had their products cloned.
I guess it makes me a racist of some sort, but I have zero trust in PWE, and will be discontinuing my subscription at the moment we're forced to transition to only using PWE accounts.
Maybe me too. I am a bit weary if I turn over all account details and login to PWE's headquaters after reading a magazine in TIME where the "war" between us and China is no longer really physical or done with military, but is about information & intellectual property control and theft.
Interesting times we live in, where I have to possibly fear how whom controls and has access to information I only use for gaming.
If the region-locking does become a reality, then I'd be in a very tough position to continue supporting the game, which is a shame because I love it. But with the knowledge of those players from the affected regions being unfairly shown the door with no way of coming back in...it doesn't feel right to support the game knowing that. It doesn't feel ethical. Maybe it's just me caring too much, but there it is.
If the region-locking does become a reality, then I'd be in a very tough position to continue supporting the game, which is a shame because I love it. But with the knowledge of those players from the affected regions being unfairly shown the door with no way of coming back in...it doesn't feel right to support the game knowing that. It doesn't feel ethical. Maybe it's just me caring too much, but there it is.
I don't know, I guess we'll see in due time.
I feel the same way. I don't see why a region lock should ever happen unless the region in question has their own game servers local to them. I think Cryptic's games are only in 1 location, but I could be wrong. If so they are amputating a huge leg of customers.
How are the regions separated for CO? I live in the US for example...am I able to play with people that live in Europe, or do we each need to collaborate on buying the same copies? (mintut0182)
We plan on Champions Online to have only one great big shard worldwide. There should be no need to make sure you all get copies from the same region, you can all play together.
The official response is, "We plan on Champions Online to have only one great big shard worldwide. There should be no need to make sure you all get copies from the same region, you can all play together." It's quite good to read those words, as it means we can finally play with our friends across the pond without worrying about purchasing a UK version of the game. Huzzah!
There has got to be a legal recourse for those who purchased a lifetime subscription and end up being in a wrong region as a result of the merger. I thought it was supposed to be "access so long as the servers remains up".
I'm a little scared to do this whole merger thing... I had a PWI account for a few years that I actually spent quite a bit of money on. Several months ago PWI banned me without any notification or reason as to why they did it. That account is still banned today. I'm just not entirely sure I can trust PWI anymore....
I'm a little scared to do this whole merger thing... I had a PWI account for a few years that I actually spent quite a bit of money on. Several months ago PWI banned me without any notification or reason as to why they did it. That account is still banned today. I'm just not entirely sure I can trust PWI anymore....
I had this happen with Aeria recently and I haven't used my Aeria account in a year or so. Turns out someone hacked me and spent all my AP on items to allow them to spam chat channels in eden eternal. I contacted Aeria and got it sorted out and all my AP returned, but it makes me never want to put my money into an item shop or online cash holder (paypal) of any kind until I need it. Not even cryptic points or zen. The same thing may have happened to you. I'd file a ticket. Who knows, PW might fix it. I would say Aeria is just as bad but they fixed mine. I had a long difficult password too, but some gold spammers just have no lives (assuming that's what they bought the chat items for).
Sorry, but I'll probably wait to merge until they make me, much like WoW with Battlenet...
First, the Cryptic system has never let me down. Why switch?
Second, I don't currently play any PWE games so I have no need for an account.
Finally, it's new. There's a high possibility of bugs, glitches, errors, whatever. I'm gonna let some other poor soul help them iron out the system before I even think of giving it a shot.
Now, when bribes become involved, all bets are off. CO is the ONLY reason I have a Steam account...
I'm a sucker for that crap...
Most of this, minus the bribe stuff. My momma didn't raise no suckers.
btw - Welcome me to Gold (again). Thanks to few 60 day Game cards the wife got me for Christmas I'm good through August (and she dropped hints there might be more cards on my birthday).
And wouldn't you know it, only a few days after, the game goes wonky. Haven't checked today - Is the AH working again? It went wonky the very day I switched back. Sorry my usual bad luck spilled over to the whole game.
I had this happen with Aeria recently and I haven't used my Aeria account in a year or so. Turns out someone hacked me and spent all my AP on items to allow them to spam chat channels in eden eternal. I contacted Aeria and got it sorted out and all my AP returned, but it makes me never want to put my money into an item shop or online cash holder (paypal) of any kind until I need it. Not even cryptic points or zen. The same thing may have happened to you. I'd file a ticket. Who knows, PW might fix it. I would say Aeria is just as bad but they fixed mine. I had a long difficult password too, but some gold spammers just have no lives (assuming that's what they bought the chat items for).
I filed a ticket and apparently that was the problem. I should have my account back soon
I recently went to try out Forsaken World, one of Perfect World's other games. I found out my Perfect World account* is apparently banned. I'm assuming the account got hacked and someone used it to spam. This is worrisome because well... what happens when the accounts merge?
I don't want to lose my account, I've been a CO customer in good standing for a long time - same with STO. I've only had like, 1 warning per forum even, not even infractions or anything.
Needless to say I do not want to wind up banned because someone hacked my other account... and I'll be honest I'm really not wanting to go through the hassle of talking with PWE customer support. I have terrible luck with customer support emails. (Don't even get me started on phone calls.)
*edit*
Clearly I'm not alone in this situation. Well that's at once comforting/disturbing.
I recently went to try out Forsaken World, one of Perfect World's other games. I found out my Perfect World account* is apparently banned. I'm assuming the account got hacked and someone used it to spam. This is worrisome because well... what happens when the accounts merge?
More then likely yes. PW have taken notice of it happening a lot lately. Last time i tried to log into their main site it had red text stating they are aware of an alarming amount of it. Try a support ticket. It worked for me and Opal. It should work even more now that they are aware of it. I expect at some point PW will have to issue out offers for a extra bit of security like SOE and blizzard started doing with those key chain authenticator thingies. Kind of sad to see that happen to a company who run free games though, but these RMT people are getting malicious lately. I guess not enough people are buying from them lol. As for your other question regarding what happens after you merge, I have no idea. I'd either wait until after you filed a ticket and had it resolved, or make a new PW account and merge you're cryptic to that instead.
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While I agree with your sentiment and feel upset about this as well (though, I apparently will not be affected as far as I can tell), I'm afraid that may have been covered by the following portions of the ToS:
...and probably other stuff, but I stopped looking at this point...
Standard legal butt covering in case they can't/won't continue to provide you the service you already paid for, for any reason.
Well, there are differences. If the decision is made by Cryptic, I won't argue about it. However, currently, the incoming block is due to the trandered ownership and the policy of the new owner. If there is any important policy is going to be announced, they should offically tell all uses/players what will happen on their main policies. Don't forget the rules/policies you provided/which we agreee with are based on the confidance in Cryptic, but not in PWE.
And, I'm not really upset. I just feel sorry for some of my asian friends. They knew and joined this game because of me. They do enjoy the gameplay environment and content of CO. I know one who just transfered forty pounds to C points three weeks ago. Some of them became Gold. They spent money to support a potentially the best herogame company(well, maybe after this event, it and its owner will both be considered worst by these minority). However, they cannot have a good ending.
So, not Japan, right?
RIGHT?!
Also, what's the procedure to have an account name changed?
I can simply answer the reasons and the frauds StormShade mentioned. Besides the games developed by Cryptics, all other PWE's games were developed by Korean comompanies and Chinese Companies (PWE's studio). Those game implement in Asia earilier.
I'm no programmer, but there is something strange. It seems that Korean or Chinese MMORPGs are so easily to be hacked. The codes are so easily to be penetrated to develop hack programmes or Bots. The most significant example is AION, which stayed at the TOP 1 (in South Korea) in continuous 20+ months. How did such Korea top 1 game perform in western countries? If you did play US or EU version of AION, you had to know what happened in the first half year. Gold spammers and BOTs were everywhere. Those programmes and bots were basically developed by some minor Chinese or Korean studios.
Therefore, if PWE doesn't block those regions, it is very possible for players from those regions to use hack programmes or bots or their acknowledge of the games in Asian version to win the competition in the beginning of the games. As a result, those games will die quickly due to the unfair competition and horrible gameplay environment. It is really reasonable for PWE to block those regions to establish better quailties of those games for players.
However, I need to say the experience from PWE's games should not be suitable for Cryptic's games. The reason is simple -- Hero games and scientific fiction games do not have great amount of potential customers in those regions. NCsoft tried to introduce City of Heros to asian market. Chinese and Korean offical websites were already made. However, NCsoft didn't make it. Said simply, super heros and super villains (or we need to define them strictly -- American Super Heros) are never a part of those regions' culture. What is Koreans want -- look at AION. What's Chinese want -- look at Jade Dynasty, or some other Kungfu games.
Did CO really suffer attacks and fraud attempts which were mainly from those regions? I doubt it. Therefore, under the situation that there might be just few fans or potential customers, are those experience from PWE's games really suitable for STO, CO, and Neverwinter? Is it necessary for STO/CO/NW to block those regions? I strongly doubt it.
Not the real reason. Real hacks have been done at the SOE, Trion or Frogster Website last year. What happend
in Aion was mostly that people downloaded a keylogger, what may happend through things like an old Flash Player.
Also for example the Aion-Source DB was hacked and Aion-Source also had ADs for a while that injected
keyloggers to computers that were not really secure.
The problem why this all happens is mostly that these games are really grind heavy, and so a lot of people
would rather buy there ingame gold instead of grind themself.
At CO for long time everyone said : there is absolute nothing for that you need ingame money besides retcons
and costume changes, and when i started playing it was totally fine if you had your 200g that you earned
while leveling up to 40.
However this has also a little changed if we look at current discussions about the global limit for silvers
and the closing of the collossus farming.
Okay. But I'm not sure how to go about this. I'm sure I'm just missing something, but are there instructions somewhere?
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EULA's don't hold up in court, but good luck suing someone from the US while you're from somewhere like Russia. The legal fees would end up costing more than the money you lost and it would drag on forever. Best you can do is create a PR nightmare for the company if you're determined and/or know the right people.
If you login with your PWE account you have to press a button to agree with the merge.
http://www.perfectworld.com/community
For CO : http://co-forum.perfectworld.com/
for STO : http://sto-forum.perfectworld.com/
However they are just redirected to the usual URLs at the moment.
Am I going to get banned from service even though I'm in the US?
Where you are for them is more a question of what IP-Range your ISP is using.
According to my IP Address I'm sitting in Hunstville, Alabama. There's no concievable reason Not to think I'm from the US. Particulary because I AM in the US.
I submitted an email to customer service. We'll see if the issue is resolved...
Yeah best you can do. Also tell them the name of your provider and your IP in the ticket so they can check that.
Yeah, I provided my IP in the email. I suspect its just a bug in their system. The real question will be if they feel motivated to fix the bug, or just tell me to shove off. I've had enough dealings with customer service to know it can go either way...
Edit: I'm a little bit irritated because I wanted to try out one of their sword and sorcery MMOs. Could use a low mainence side project to keep me entertained.
The original Perfect World Game had at least one of the best editor for facial customisation. However it still
was very grind heavy. I never understood why they didn't used the facial editor in their later games
Currently nothing.
When that point is reached however i think you will need to have one.
I trust(well, hope..) that we'll be notified well in advance. And that the merge won't be automatic.
ETA:
Eh, **** this, why waste more time and money on this game...
No more double "account" links or double login sites (forum AND game sites).
Seems to be working as intended...
...For now
I'd like to point out though the lack of documentation on the changes is non existant.
It would be nice if things changed under PWI, guess this isn't one of them :rolleyes:
Hit the back button in your browser to return to the page and then F5 to refresh.
Because your account and forum login are the same. It is safer even if really annoying. Well... I can't even say it is safer given the reduced version they are using that is hacked/out dated.
I clicked cancel on this the first time I saw it and now I no longer see it show up when I log in anymore. Is there another way to link them? I've looked everywhere on the websites, but I think i screwed myself over by canceling this...
I simply wouldn't even try to merge it with a banned account .. would you really try it ? Also if the account
is banned you maybe also even shouldn't be able to login with it to try it.
They were before as well and there was never any captcha. Also, logging into the forums also logged you in the main website.
While I do not mind having to be redirected to some place else to log in, I do mind having to do the captcha every single time.
I also mind having to do a captcha every time I send a PM when I am not in game. It's tedious and annoying.
We don't have that bad of a gold problem and I doubt we ever will.
Nor change our forum or in-game handles. I'm usually not one to sweat things but this whole merger thing makes me very uneasy. And what if you don't have a PWE account? Will you be forced to make one? What if your current Cryptic handle isn't available in PWE? We *we* be forced to change it, or will *they*? Or will we have 2, one for CO games and one for PWE games?
Why should someone be forced not only to merge, but to change their login?
I guess this is basically what some of us have been trying to ask.
Ok, so Cryptic got sold to another company. Fine. But why do I have to change my account/login information because of it?
There was a thread recently that asked the question:
If you knew what you know now ... Would you have bought a Lifetime Sub?
I never replied to that thread because I wasn't sure (plus Ive been trying to cut down on my posting). There have been some things I've been unhappy about this game since I bought by LTS, but I still would have subbed so I figured I don't exactly regret it (though, it would definitely have been better to buy it at launch than less than a year ago when I did).
Now this topic comes up, and see how people from some countries might get banned without notification (we only even know of this because the issue came up in this thread, but there might be people from those countries throwing money at Cryptic games right now without knowing they might not have access to their investment in the near future). And I may have to change my login information from the one I've become accostumed to using in every game I play regularly.
Its becoming more and more like the answer to that LTS question would be a definite NO*
*and I DO NOT recommend it to ANYONE reading this at this point.
Thankfully, I grew out of that.
This merge makes sense.
Now the area ip block is another matter that certainly deserves to be informed more clearly (and hum, be happy CO is not part of Nexon, for example).
Oh yeah .. i had to install AOL to use their proxy for testing out Vindictus :rolleyes:
Most important of all is the region block. That would hurt for some of my lifer friends. CO isn't exactly the most populated MMO out there and here you are handing out restrictions as to who you want to see in your game?
Seriously, I love this game, I LOVE it so much that I can just log in and stand there for hours chatting up with other champions, or just fly around, or just fidgeting and tweaking some powers in PH for hours end.
But this is making me really sad, not because I'm from those regions, but I feel for them.
p/s - and to think all these rather important "announcements" should be up on the main page and even the launcher page, but no, just thrown around in bits and pieces of incomplete info by a community rep. Great communication there, I suppose.
Maybe me too. I am a bit weary if I turn over all account details and login to PWE's headquaters after reading a magazine in TIME where the "war" between us and China is no longer really physical or done with military, but is about information & intellectual property control and theft.
Interesting times we live in, where I have to possibly fear how whom controls and has access to information I only use for gaming.
I don't know, I guess we'll see in due time.
I feel the same way. I don't see why a region lock should ever happen unless the region in question has their own game servers local to them. I think Cryptic's games are only in 1 location, but I could be wrong. If so they are amputating a huge leg of customers.
http://www.champions-online.com/dev_blog/ask_cryptic_06-11-09
http://massively.joystiq.com/2009/06/12/champions-online-servers-will-be-region-free/
Oh how the times are a-changing...
I had this happen with Aeria recently and I haven't used my Aeria account in a year or so. Turns out someone hacked me and spent all my AP on items to allow them to spam chat channels in eden eternal. I contacted Aeria and got it sorted out and all my AP returned, but it makes me never want to put my money into an item shop or online cash holder (paypal) of any kind until I need it. Not even cryptic points or zen. The same thing may have happened to you. I'd file a ticket. Who knows, PW might fix it. I would say Aeria is just as bad but they fixed mine. I had a long difficult password too, but some gold spammers just have no lives (assuming that's what they bought the chat items for).
btw - Welcome me to Gold (again). Thanks to few 60 day Game cards the wife got me for Christmas I'm good through August (and she dropped hints there might be more cards on my birthday).
And wouldn't you know it, only a few days after, the game goes wonky. Haven't checked today - Is the AH working again? It went wonky the very day I switched back. Sorry my usual bad luck spilled over to the whole game.
I filed a ticket and apparently that was the problem. I should have my account back soon
I recently went to try out Forsaken World, one of Perfect World's other games. I found out my Perfect World account* is apparently banned. I'm assuming the account got hacked and someone used it to spam. This is worrisome because well... what happens when the accounts merge?
I don't want to lose my account, I've been a CO customer in good standing for a long time - same with STO. I've only had like, 1 warning per forum even, not even infractions or anything.
Needless to say I do not want to wind up banned because someone hacked my other account... and I'll be honest I'm really not wanting to go through the hassle of talking with PWE customer support. I have terrible luck with customer support emails. (Don't even get me started on phone calls.)
*edit*
Clearly I'm not alone in this situation. Well that's at once comforting/disturbing.
More then likely yes. PW have taken notice of it happening a lot lately. Last time i tried to log into their main site it had red text stating they are aware of an alarming amount of it. Try a support ticket. It worked for me and Opal. It should work even more now that they are aware of it. I expect at some point PW will have to issue out offers for a extra bit of security like SOE and blizzard started doing with those key chain authenticator thingies. Kind of sad to see that happen to a company who run free games though, but these RMT people are getting malicious lately. I guess not enough people are buying from them lol. As for your other question regarding what happens after you merge, I have no idea. I'd either wait until after you filed a ticket and had it resolved, or make a new PW account and merge you're cryptic to that instead.