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  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Thanks! Now....I still haven't seen any info on your totally badass Ghoul character :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Alright, after taking some time out I think I got down a backstory for my character but I need some help with how to describe how he delivers his version of justice or whatever (sorry, to frustrated on writing a backstory that I tend to take it out while posting). His powers so far are:

    - Super Strength

    - Electricity Manipulation (Able to absorb electricity and use it as a armor or shell)

    - Super Speed and/or Super Jumping (depending on area)

    As of his backstory I need big time help on that. Would give a picture of him but for some reason I can't, might need to download photoshop if possible. All I know is that he definately has a mutant origin.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    I'd like to see what the best story you could come up with is.
    My characters name is Fae. Her real name is faeth harrison. she is a witchcraft style character.
    what's the best you got
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Rayze wrote: »
    Alright, after taking some time out I think I got down a backstory for my character but I need some help with how to describe how he delivers his version of justice or whatever (sorry, to frustrated on writing a backstory that I tend to take it out while posting). His powers so far are:

    - Super Strength

    - Electricity Manipulation (Able to absorb electricity and use it as a armor or shell)

    - Super Speed and/or Super Jumping (depending on area)

    As of his backstory I need big time help on that. Would give a picture of him but for some reason I can't, might need to download photoshop if possible. All I know is that he definately has a mutant origin.





    Not alot to go on there Raze! You mind if I ask you some questions?

    What's your hero's name?[
    What did his parents think of having a "mutant"?
    How did people treat him, knowing he was a mutant?
    Did his power help him or make him an outcast?
    How did he learn to use/control his powers?
    What does he love?
    What does he hate?
    Who are his allies?
    Where does he live?
    Who are his enemies?
    How did he learn he was a mutant?
    Does he like being a mutant?
    How does he view normal people?
    How does he view other mutants?

    Most mutants in the Marvel universe are social outcasts, hated and feared by society. They tend to fight for a place in the human world or to protect their own kind. I think once you've answered those question you'll have a good idea why your character delivers justice or whatever.

    If you're having a problem with hero art try out:
    http://www.heromachine.com/
    or
    http://fabricadeherois.blogspot.com/ (it's in Portuguese, but easy enough to figure out)
    Good luck!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    tjmadd wrote: »
    I'd like to see what the best story you could come up with is.
    My characters name is Fae. Her real name is faeth harrison. she is a witchcraft style character.
    what's the best you got

    I dig witches. I have a witch character myself I'm working on. Her real name is Helena Handbasket. She comes from a long line of witches. Helena wants nothing more to be a TV journalist in the big studio. Instead she's working her way up from the bottom writing daily horoscopes for one of the sleazy supermarket tabloids her mother owns. All the while caring for her lewd sorcerous grandmother with alzheimer’s, a gaseous black cat familiar named “Spooky” and a double life as the crime fighter Witch Hazel!

    So if you’re thinking of doing anything like that... DON’T! ;)

    So... I’m having a hard time doing double duty for another witch character. I’m sure GhostHack will have some great ideas or one of the other forum junkies will be here to help. But so I won’t be a total waste, here are a few “witchy” names to consider for your hero:

    Witchcraft
    Spellbound
    Sorcerinna
    Bella Donna
    Broomstick Bombshell
    Ouija
    White Witch
    Winter Witch
    Seance

    /Yes they're my left-overs...
    //And GZA because you cared to ask... I’ll post the origin of the Ghoul soon!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    The_Ghoul wrote: »
    I dig witches. I have a witch character myself I'm working on. Her real name is Helena Handbasket. She comes from a long line of witches. Helena wants nothing more to be a TV journalist in the big studio. Instead she's working her way up from the bottom writing daily horoscopes for one of the sleazy supermarket tabloids her mother owns. All the while caring for her lewd sorcerous grandmother with alzheimer’s, a gaseous black cat familiar named “Spooky” and a double life as the crime fighter Witch Hazel!

    So if you’re thinking of doing anything like that... DON’T! ;)

    So... I’m having a hard time doing double duty for another witch character. I’m sure GhostHack will have some great ideas or one of the other forum junkies will be here to help. But so I won’t be a total waste, here are a few “witchy” names to consider for your hero:

    Witchcraft
    Spellbound
    Sorcerinna
    Bella Donna
    Broomstick Bombshell
    Ouija
    White Witch
    Winter Witch
    Seance

    /Yes they're my left-overs...
    //And GZA because you cared to ask... I’ll post the origin of the Ghoul soon!


    I completely like Seance. That is a really cool name. Thanks. I can't wait until someone can help me with her backstory though:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Ghoul I can't wait for the backstory!

    Now, for a witch character....hmm I'm not really good with witches so I'll throw a random wacky idea out there. Your character could start out as a noob witch with really no powers at all so she joins a cult to try and learn the mystic arts. The cult turns out to be hella evil and one day a police swat team breaks into their hideout and a huge firefight ensues. Your character,(Fae right?) is killed and buried soon after. However as fate would have it....she was miraculously buried in the same grave as an uber powerful witch that was killed during the witch hunts. The witche's soul fuses with Fae's and Fae is somehow ressurected with amazing powers and ready to wtfpwn evil.

    It's just an idea so don't kill me if you hate it :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    The_Ghoul wrote: »
    Not alot to go on there Raze! You mind if I ask you some questions?

    What's your hero's name?
    What did his parents think of having a "mutant"?
    How did people treat him, knowing he was a mutant?
    Did his power help him or make him an outcast?
    How did he learn to use/control his powers?
    What does he love?
    What does he hate?
    Who are his allies?
    Where does he live?
    Who are his enemies?
    How did he learn he was a mutant?
    Does he like being a mutant?
    How does he view normal people?
    How does he view other mutants?

    Most mutants in the Marvel universe are social outcasts, hated and feared by society. They tend to fight for a place in the human world or to protect their own kind. I think once you've answered those question you'll have a good idea why your character delivers justice or whatever.

    If you're having a problem with hero art try out:
    http://www.heromachine.com/
    or
    http://fabricadeherois.blogspot.com/ (it's in Portuguese, but easy enough to figure out)
    Good luck!



    Hero Name: Over-Charge (gawd I hope this name isn't taken.)

    What did his parents think of having a "mutant"? At first they thought about hiding him from everyone and hope the idea of him being a mutant would disappear, but after a few months they turned him over to a undercover scientist to find a cure.

    How did people treat him, knowing he is was mutant? They treated him like a foreigner.

    Did his powers make him or help him become a outcast? Definately made him a outcast.

    How did he learn to use/control his powers? He learned paying alot of attention to how transformers and power lines were used to transfer, and focused his power on that. (taking, giving, forcing....)

    What does he love? Over-Charge loves anything that has a "peaceful" sense to it.

    What does he hate? Machinery and people hurting others.

    Who are his allies? As of late he has none. Then again, anyone he calls a friend is a ally to him.

    Where does he live? In apartment building overlooking a beach.

    Who are his enemies? His main enemy is a man called Turbine. He holds a villain group called "Hunters United".

    How did he learn he was a mutant? One night he was playing a handheld console when the battery died. Out of frustration he started throw and break anything he can grab, then after seeing his hand threw the TV, he started to freak out while more electricity "crawled" on him, causing a black out in his home.

    Does he like being a mutant? He likes it, just hates the name.

    How does he view normal people? He sees them as "wandering birds".

    How does he view othe mutants? He sees them as if they're like himself, always looking for a home, but knows it's not going to happen anytime soon. At least not like a normal person does.

    Hope I didn't confuse you with this. Also I tried both the hero creator and the portuguese version so many times and yet I still can't make a link.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Gza wrote: »
    Ghoul I can't wait for the backstory!

    Now, for a witch character....hmm I'm not really good with witches so I'll throw a random wacky idea out there. Your character could start out as a noob witch with really no powers at all so she joins a cult to try and learn the mystic arts. The cult turns out to be hella evil and one day a police swat team breaks into their hideout and a huge firefight ensues. Your character,(Fae right?) is killed and buried soon after. However as fate would have it....she was miraculously buried in the same grave as an uber powerful witch that was killed during the witch hunts. The witche's soul fuses with Fae's and Fae is somehow ressurected with amazing powers and ready to wtfpwn evil.

    It's just an idea so don't kill me if you hate it :p

    Thanks GZA that gives me a direction to go in. Thanx thanx thanx:D:D:D
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    No problem tjmadd, glad to help. Now Raze I have a little twist for you character. Since your hero Over-Charge is an outcast....how about making the villain well known and even well liked. He could go to charity events and donate money to the poor in the day-time under the guise of a businessman. But at night he does his evil deeds with his villain group and the only person who knows is Over-Charge. Over-Charge could be fighting to reveal to the world that Turbine runs an evil corporation. They could even be blood related to give the conflict even more tension.

    Again just a wacky idea off the top of my head.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    thanks again Gouley... and welcome to the party Gza... I really want this to be a place where anyone can ask a question and anyone can answer it... We're all here to help
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Glad to be here Ghost :)

    Actually, now I could use some assistance. I have a villain in mind, a gritty Batman-like villain who is a mime that happens to be the greatest hypnotist in the world. He can hypnotize you even if you're not willing. I have his theme going but I just can't determine his origin or why he is a villain or what his goals are.

    Thanks in advance!

    PS. by Batman-like villain I mean a villain like those found in his rogues gallery. I hope that clears up any confusion.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Gza wrote: »
    Since your hero Over-Charge is an outcast....how about making the villain well known and even well liked. He could go to charity events and donate money to the poor in the day-time under the guise of a businessman. But at night he does his evil deeds with his villain group and the only person who knows is Over-Charge. Over-Charge could be fighting to reveal to the world that Turbine runs an evil corporation. They could even be blood related to give the conflict even more tension.

    Again just a wacky idea off the top of my head.

    Not a bad idea. I think that would really set both of them up (since I was going to say they're related). Thanks for the help guys, will return with another one once I get a certain numbers of sleep.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Ok about my mime villain....I realized you kinda have to talk to someone in order to hypnotize them so he kinda can't be a mime. BUT....if you can make him a mime AND hypnotist....I will call you a genius and make him one of my main villains.

    Glad I could help Rayze. I've been on a semi-decent idea streak lately......I KNOW I TRIED TO MAKE A MIME HYPNOTIST SHHH!! :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Well...
    My heros name is ultimate ranger hes a archer with Increased vison,speed,Strengthand reflexes andused trick arrows like green arrow,he is also trained in some martial arts and used some high-teck gadgets heres his story.
    Aaron Halls just came back from winning the archery championship in the olympics but when he got to his home town he was shocked the whole town was destoryed,luckaly his friends and family where ok,but Aaron still demanded to know what or who what the cause of this and it turns out an unidentfied villan went on a rampage and destroyed the city and killed some people.Aaron wanted to to get stop this villan before he hurt anyone but how? well the thought to him self I can shoot a bow and arrow I can Run fast,
    I have really good reflexes and vison ,well this reminded Aaron about the crime fighter Green Arrow comics he used to reed when he was a kid so after re building most of the city he used his left over money to buy a custom desigend suit,some special designed arrows,some high teck gadgets,and custom designed car and plane to help him. so aaron desided to become a crime fighter and named him self the ultimate ranger. now Aaron lives in Millennium City which he has now found the unknown villan that now calles him self commander devastate the ultimae ranger fights crime making the world a better place for every-one to live in.

    thats his story plese commment and add suggestins if you want to,thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Gza wrote: »
    Ok about my mime villain....I realized you kinda have to talk to someone in order to hypnotize them so he kinda can't be a mime. BUT....if you can make him a mime AND hypnotist....I will call you a genius and make him one of my main villains.

    I've been on a semi-decent idea streak lately......I KNOW I TRIED TO MAKE A MIME HYPNOTIST SHHH!! :)


    That's a tough one there bud. I would say magic since you can hypnotize, but then again there's science mainly cause he's a mime.

    I guess it all depends on his backstory is brought up, other than that I can only guess by his powers. Sorry if this doesn't help.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Yeah I'm just gonna scrap the whole mime thing altogether. I will still use hypnotism for one of my villains but I gotta figure out an interesting backstory first. And Ahalls25, I say make the villain who destroyed your hero's city a cyborg who can transform his hands into a bunch of different weapons. He could also be able to control anything technilogical. Just a small suggestion hope it works for your hero.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    I think ill do that thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Ahalls25 wrote: »
    Well...
    My heros name is ultimate ranger hes a archer with Increased vison,speed,Strengthand reflexes andused trick arrows like green arrow,he is also trained in some martial arts and used some high-teck gadgets heres his story.
    Aaron Halls just came back from winning the archery championship in the olympics but when he got to his home town he was shocked the whole town was destoryed,luckaly his friends and family where ok,but Aaron still demanded to know what or who what the cause of this and it turns out an unidentfied villan went on a rampage and destroyed the city and killed some people.Aaron wanted to to get stop this villan before he hurt anyone but how? well the thought to him self I can shoot a bow and arrow I can Run fast,
    I have really good reflexes and vison ,well this reminded Aaron about the crime fighter Green Arrow comics he used to reed when he was a kid so after re building most of the city he used his left over money to buy a custom desigend suit,some special designed arrows,some high teck gadgets,and custom designed car and plane to help him. so aaron desided to become a crime fighter and named him self the ultimate ranger. now Aaron lives in Millennium City which he has now found the unknown villan that now calles him self commander devastate the ultimae ranger fights crime making the world a better place for every-one to live in.

    thats his story plese commment and add suggestins if you want to,thanks


    If you don't mind, I have something for you to think about.
    Why did the villian attack his town? Is the town hiding something? Is it next to something worth attcking and it was just caught in the crossfire? Or was it attacked because the bad guy's an insane, random destructive monster?

    If you can come up with a reason why this happened, then you can give your guy a bit more depth.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    I will thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    a mime hypnotist is easy...

    one of the most CLASSIC, pulpy versions of hypnosis was "look into my eyes".... and who better to stare menacingly than a mime?


    what you have to realize, is that this villain isnt a mime by choice.... his larnyx was cut out. his father was part of a secret occult organization that believed in human "modification"... his father had his own hand surgically removed, and in preperation to become an acolyte of this order, removed the vocal abilities of his son.

    Unable to speak at such an early age, left the child able to communicate only through subtle bodylanguage, facial emotion, and a sort of "word forming" using his lips.

    his troubled childhood both sent him off his rocker, and gave him ample reason to bury himself in various topics... being a mute, it was only natural that he began to interest himself in mutes in culture... assassins, holy men, and mimes...
    his natural form of communication lent itself perfectly to "miming" and he finally ran away from home to get to france and learn from masters...

    on top of being a mime and hypnotist, he is an excelent assassin and spy.


    never saying a word, he can perfectly convey his commands to hypnotized subjects with his body language, subtle twitches of his face muscles and mouthing apropriate words in any of a dozen languages.

    he is cold, ruthless, and more than a little insane.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    You Ghosthack.....are a genius. I was going to use an occult organization for one of my villains named The War-Nun but you make it work perfectly for this mime character. I have a few questions though.....what goals does his father have in cutting out his larynx? What does he believe this will do? Also....since I want to make this mime guy a villain....what are his evil goals? You mentioned holy men....such as monks and other people of that nature...does the mime take over the cult and perform evil acts in the name of God? Or does he have other nefarious plans?

    I only ask 'cause I think if we fully flesh out this villain....we could have a truly classic and diabolical viallin on our hands MUAHAHAHA!!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Well...
    My heros name is ultimate ranger hes a archer with Increased vison,speed,Strength and reflexes and usees trick arrows like green arrow,he is also trained in some martial arts and used some high-teck gadgets heres his story.
    Aaron Halls just came back from winning the archery championship in the olympics but when he got to his home town he was shocked the whole town was destoryed,luckaly his friends and family where ok,but Aaron still demanded to know what or who what the cause of this and it turns out an unidentfied villan went on a rampage and destroyed the city and killed some people.Aaron wanted to stop this villan before he hurt anyone but how? well he thought to him self I can shoot a bow and arrow I can Run fast,
    I have really good reflexes and vison ,well this reminded Aaron about the Green Arrow comics he used to reed when he was a kid so after re building most of the city he used his left over money to buy a custom desigend suit,some special designed arrows,some high teck gadgets,and custom designed car and plane to help him. so aaron desided to become a crime fighter and named him self the ultimate ranger. now Aaron lives in Millennium City which he has now found the unknown villan that now calles him self commander devastateis who is a cyborg and can control anything tecnlogical and turn his hand in to any weapon, the ultimate ranger fights crime making the world a better place for every-one to live in.

    thats his story plese commment and add suggestins if you want to,thanks
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Good job Ahalls. Looks like you have a good hero and villain conflict established.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Thanks Gza
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Gza wrote: »
    You Ghosthack.....are a genius. I was going to use an occult organization for one of my villains named The War-Nun but you make it work perfectly for this mime character. I have a few questions though.....what goals does his father have in cutting out his larynx? What does he believe this will do? Also....since I want to make this mime guy a villain....what are his evil goals? You mentioned holy men....such as monks and other people of that nature...does the mime take over the cult and perform evil acts in the name of God? Or does he have other nefarious plans?

    I only ask 'cause I think if we fully flesh out this villain....we could have a truly classic and diabolical viallin on our hands MUAHAHAHA!!!

    the cult believes in spiritual androgenous beings (angels, fallen or otherwise, demons etc) that will bestow ultimate power on those who recognize their influence in this world, and give them apropriate praise.

    to better beg for the favor of these beings, all men of the order recieve a Chondrolaryngoplastic surgery to remove all evidence of their adam's apple (women are either small chested naturally, or recieve surgery to become so)
    castration is also common, but not as universal as the tracheal shave.

    The villain's father, a highly placed, but unliked member of the order gives his son a "homebrew" version of the opperation when hes still an infant. his purpose is personal zeal and a desire to raise the perfect efegy of the beings the organization worships, a model of perfection for the order to establish himself as leader (spiritually and politically)

    as you might expect, the opperation is both a perfect success, and a failure. The boy's throat healed, he became stoic, falling easily into a trance-like state, his skin took on a thickness and golden hue. He was a lazy eyed god. Unfortunately, his father failed to realize... his son was suffering from Congenital hypothyroidism, caused by the Trachael shave.
    His voice was completely gone, damage to his voicebox and though his mind was not effected by cretinism, his body showed all the weakness of the condition, constant sleepyness, low muscle tone, gently protruding stomach, and jaundice. The boy never grew taller than 5'...

    through his lethargy, the mantra of his father, the brainwash conditioning of the order broke down, he began to dispise his situation, but his pecularities and complete inability to socialize with anyone else made him feel like he was walled off from the rest of the world.
    he ran away, to europe and found a "calling" as a mime. It was easy to play act in silence, and his ability to communicate through body language and expression flourished. He was, at 18, considered the absolute master of that artform... but while his white make-up mask allowed him to be accepted as a mime, he still couldnt connect to anyone as a person, and his sanity was breaking apart.

    at an exibition of entertainment arts, he watched as a man hipnotized a whole stage of people. after the show, he cornered the performer, and compelled him to teach the young man to hypnotize others. He paid every euro he'd been able to save in 3 years of miming..
    ...only to find out that the man was a charletan. The hypnotist taught the boy stage tricks, useless "magickery" to convince the audience and the people on stage, that their actions would be forgiven. It was suggestion, not hypnosis
    in a fit of rage, The Mime killed the hypnotist. He fled Paris with a drive to learn the secrets of Hypnosis.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Man GhostHack that is dark and creepy as hell and I LOVE it!!!! Fits perfectly with the rest of the cast of my characters.

    So, if I read correct, the purpose of the surgery was kind of like a sacrifice offering to the gods? If I'm getting it wrong it's okay to call me insanely stupid.

    I love the idea of him being an outcast. I also love the idea of him turning the tables on his fate. He was being manipulated for so long by his father he decides he'll control others through hypnotism. Awesome idea.

    Now we just need a name.......for some reason I just can't think of one for him...Mindbender?......
    Brain-Jacker?.......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    GhostHack wrote: »
    a mime hypnotist is easy...

    one of the most CLASSIC, pulpy versions of hypnosis was "look into my eyes".... and who better to stare menacingly than a mime?


    what you have to realize, is that this villain isnt a mime by choice.... his larnyx was cut out. his father was part of a secret occult organization that believed in human "modification"... his father had his own hand surgically removed, and in preperation to become an acolyte of this order, removed the vocal abilities of his son.

    Unable to speak at such an early age, left the child able to communicate only through subtle bodylanguage, facial emotion, and a sort of "word forming" using his lips.

    his troubled childhood both sent him off his rocker, and gave him ample reason to bury himself in various topics... being a mute, it was only natural that he began to interest himself in mutes in culture... assassins, holy men, and mimes...
    his natural form of communication lent itself perfectly to "miming" and he finally ran away from home to get to france and learn from masters...

    on top of being a mime and hypnotist, he is an excelent assassin and spy.


    never saying a word, he can perfectly convey his commands to hypnotized subjects with his body language, subtle twitches of his face muscles and mouthing apropriate words in any of a dozen languages.

    he is cold, ruthless, and more than a little insane.
    GhostHack wrote: »
    the cult believes in spiritual androgenous beings (angels, fallen or otherwise, demons etc) that will bestow ultimate power on those who recognize their influence in this world, and give them apropriate praise.

    to better beg for the favor of these beings, all men of the order recieve a Chondrolaryngoplastic surgery to remove all evidence of their adam's apple (women are either small chested naturally, or recieve surgery to become so)
    castration is also common, but not as universal as the tracheal shave.

    The villain's father, a highly placed, but unliked member of the order gives his son a "homebrew" version of the opperation when hes still an infant. his purpose is personal zeal and a desire to raise the perfect efegy of the beings the organization worships, a model of perfection for the order to establish himself as leader (spiritually and politically)

    as you might expect, the opperation is both a perfect success, and a failure. The boy's throat healed, he became stoic, falling easily into a trance-like state, his skin took on a thickness and golden hue. He was a lazy eyed god. Unfortunately, his father failed to realize... his son was suffering from Congenital hypothyroidism, caused by the Trachael shave.
    His voice was completely gone, damage to his voicebox and though his mind was not effected by cretinism, his body showed all the weakness of the condition, constant sleepyness, low muscle tone, gently protruding stomach, and jaundice. The boy never grew taller than 5'...

    through his lethargy, the mantra of his father, the brainwash conditioning of the order broke down, he began to dispise his situation, but his pecularities and complete inability to socialize with anyone else made him feel like he was walled off from the rest of the world.
    he ran away, to europe and found a "calling" as a mime. It was easy to play act in silence, and his ability to communicate through body language and expression flourished. He was, at 18, considered the absolute master of that artform... but while his white make-up mask allowed him to be accepted as a mime, he still couldnt connect to anyone as a person, and his sanity was breaking apart.

    at an exibition of entertainment arts, he watched as a man hipnotized a whole stage of people. after the show, he cornered the performer, and compelled him to teach the young man to hypnotize others. He paid every euro he'd been able to save in 3 years of miming..
    ...only to find out that the man was a charletan. The hypnotist taught the boy stage tricks, useless "magickery" to convince the audience and the people on stage, that their actions would be forgiven. It was suggestion, not hypnosis
    in a fit of rage, The Mime killed the hypnotist. He fled Paris with a drive to learn the secrets of Hypnosis.



    That scares me.......
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    why does that scare you? :-/


    And I wouldnt so much say "offering to the gods"..... more like "we wish to honor you, see, here... we try to emulate you by removing all signs of gender difference, so we might be able to walk in your pressance without causing offence"


    as for names
    Pantomind
    The Mesmerist
    The Enthralling Mayon/Virat

    something "Stage namey" seems most apropriate... like a young man who's lost himself, in his own character.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
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    Ahalls25 wrote: »
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    its comming Aha, I promise.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    GhostHack wrote: »
    why does that scare you? :-/



    Mainly the idea of that scares me. No paticular reason.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Ahh I get it now Ghost. I agree the stage namey thing fits him I'll have to think of something creepy and mysterious. And Rayze if that scares you......good that's what I'm going for :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    i'm mainly doing this to see if i need to flush anything out for my character.
    Weeping Shadow is an opertive for H.A.N.G.M.A.N, a secret organization focusing on stealth, assasination, recon and sabatoge. he's been geneticly modified to make him stronger and faster than most olympian athletes. this genetic tinkering has caused his tear ducts to burst when his adrenaline is flowing causing him to "weep blood". the reason he's in millenium city is his superiors have sent him to eliminate 16 major crime bosses ( from the powerful low thungs to the corrupt buisness-men). H.A.N.G.M.A.N has supplied him with a base of operations, an old, derelict frieght ship that the locals simply call the "ghost ship". he's mainly in the vain of The Punisher and Batman as he has no "super" powers but is generally superior to most people.

    and i'm still working on his list of "clients"
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    you definately need to flesh it out....

    primarily.... is this an Agent 47 issue of "no past", does your character have any personal reasons to be a part of HANGMAN, or is he required to be a part of that organization....

    what is the goal of the Organization, its name suggests an american origin, so is it only active in the US.... is it a whole organization of hitmen vigilantes or is it just your character....


    why would he weep blood? if his tearducts burst.... he would weep blood once, perhaps getting him the name.... but after that... he wouldnt cry at all, and he'd constantly have to put eye drops in to keep his eyes from drying out.

    if hes been genetically modified, he is not in the vein of batman or the punisher... he has a scientific origin... not a natural one...
    though he may have trained hard to become what he is... why he is what he is, is because he has been genetically altered.
    furthermore... Both batman and the punisher (indeed, most comic book vigilantes) rely on "Vengance" as a motive force. They are "getting back" at criminality for some act of violence perpetrated on them.


    your character, however, seems to have no motive. Hes killing mob bosses, because his organization tells him to. Its not personal....
    ...and, to me, if it isnt personal it isnt heroic.(or antiheroic)

    its just a job.




    you need to develop your character. right now, you just have a "set up"....a situation... maybe a storyarch.
    but you have no character there... just an idea.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Ahalls25 wrote: »
    Well...
    My heros name is ultimate ranger hes a archer with Increased vison,speed,Strength and reflexes and usees trick arrows like green arrow,he is also trained in some martial arts and used some high-teck gadgets heres his story.

    solid set of powers there... I assume that his increased "strength" merely sets him apart from normal humans (able to draw back an exceptionally large bow) but it seems a little "over done" if he starts lifting cars, yea? increased speed... increased compared to what? is it supernatural (The Flash?) or is it just... Olympian (I'm really getting tired of that mainstay, believe me)
    Aaron Halls just came back from winning the archery championship in the olympics but when he got to his home town he was shocked the whole town was destoryed

    destroyed? like... someone came through with a wrecking ball, or a nuclear bomb? when you say "destroyed"... the image is that nothing exists anymore... thats pretty freaking heavy.
    Doctor Destroyer "destroyed" Detroit... and he was using freaking orbital lasers... or whatever.
    luckaly his friends and family where ok,but Aaron still demanded to know what or who what the cause of this and it turns out an unidentfied villan went on a rampage and destroyed the city and killed some people.

    and heres why thats a problem... if the city is "destroyed".... I doubt your villain "killed some people"... it sounds so... unassuming.
    "Man, that villain, he like... threw a brick through Mr. Murphy's window, and broke all the eggs in the Piggley Wiggley... he totally DESTORYED the town.... I think someone had a heart attack, and Eloise Willson had to get rushed to the hospital cause he threw her insuline in front of a semi.


    it doesnt match up. Destroyed, means DESTROYED... total devastation, not a "casual romp"... EVERYONE dies, or very nearly (someone has to tell the story, right?)

    and you say a city was destroyed? that's destruction on a massive scale... 100 thousand people minimum.


    you either need to serious rethink the extent of the destruction or change the size of the location. make it "small town, USA", lots of mom and pop stores, one gas station, that sort of thing. that way, one villain COULD "destroy" the town... and 4 or 5 deaths WOULD be a big deal...
    Aaron wanted to stop this villan before he hurt anyone but how? well he thought to him self I can shoot a bow and arrow I can Run fast, I have really good reflexes and vison ,well this reminded Aaron about the Green Arrow comics he used to reed when he was a kid

    I wouldnt suggest mentioning Green Arrow...
    so after re building most of the city he used his left over money to buy a custom desigend suit,some special designed arrows,some high teck gadgets,and custom designed car and plane to help him. so aaron desided to become a crime fighter and named him self the ultimate ranger. now Aaron lives in Millennium City which he has now found the unknown villan that now calles him self commander devastateis who is a cyborg and can control anything tecnlogical and turn his hand in to any weapon, the ultimate ranger fights crime making the world a better place for every-one to live in.

    thats his story plese commment and add suggestins if you want to,thanks

    the rest is ok, but perhaps you should add some aspect of Aaron "discovering" the identity of the villain.. rather than it just being magically found out.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    wow when you point it out it just seems obvious
    i'll go back to the drawing board and see if i can shape it into something better
    thanks.

    and about the weeping blood their is a lizard (and possible a toad that i've heard of but can't find) that shoots blood from it's tear ducts to ward of predators. i might of just worded it wrong or something.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    You guys have some good ideas but there is some work that needs to be done. It happens to everyone....I'm having trouble myself right now with a few characters. But again there are some cool ideas.

    Gnomestompa: The "ghost ship" that the locals won't dare go near is a pretty cool idea.

    Ahalls: I told ya already you got a solid set-up...you just need to clean it up a bit like Ghost said.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008

    and about the weeping blood their is a lizard (and possible a toad that i've heard of but can't find) that shoots blood from it's tear ducts to ward of predators. i might of just worded it wrong or something.

    quite possible... just remember... that isnt something humans do. if you want to encorporate it into your character (the idea of using your own blood as a weapon/deterant is pretty interesting and cool), it will require your character to step out of the realm of "normal human" and into the world of "mutant" "scientific alteration" or "chemical accident."


    if your gonna go for it, take those things into account right from the begining...


    perhaps having this strange power is what singled him out for "Hangman training".... or maybe its the result of the Organizations actions on your character.....


    think it over, lets see what comes out :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Maybe the HANGMAN organization could hunt down mutants and teach them to hone their inherent mutant abilities. They could also teach them martial arts, espionage, etc. and things of that nature to make them uber-powerful government agents.

    Kind of like Charles Xavier does to the X-Men only the HANGMAN organization just trains mutants to become assassins; not educate them.

    Maybe HANGMAN is evil and brainwashes these mutants into mindless killing machines.....and they assigned Weeping Shadow to kill the crime bosses only so HANGMAN could take over their operations.

    WS could somehow break out of his brainwashing/programming and find out that HANGMAN is evil.....and attempt to take the organization down.

    Hope you like some of these ideas....some are kinda cliche but cool nontheless :p
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    He's pretty much already stated the purpose of H.A.N.G.M.A.N. It simply needs a full name to go with the acronym, a backstory of its own and a bit more about its methodolgy. We know it uses assassin's, apparently to take out those it views as dangerous criminals, but how does it recruit and train them? Do the operatives have a choice? Are they brainwashed, black-mailed, or otherwise coerced? Where did they get the science and tech to create super-powered operatives?

    As Ghost points out, however, the character itself is rather non-existent at this time. Basicly, as described, he's nothing but a (ok, why is a chess piece of little intrinsic value filtered?) with no personality, agenda, or will of his own.

    For one suggestion gnome, find the name of that lizard that weeps/spits blood and have it's DNA used as part of the enhancement process. This also would help explain any attributes normally associated with lizards in the comics he might possess (wall-crawling, speed, agility, etc.). Did he volunteer for the program, or did he have no say in it? If he agreed, why?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    ok i might have to change the name from HANGMAN to something else for a full name( granted if the name is long enough to have HANGMAN as it's acronym then i don't think ANYONE will ever use it full name.

    as for the lizard the only (believable) name is the regal horned lizard

    as for the recruitment it's more they find you ask you to sign up and if you say yes then your pretty much in for good (if not your house burns down, you get fired, arrested to the point of harrasment or something similer untill you say yes)(so no you don't have a choice). normally they seek out "mutants" for their recuits but they often approach those of (superior?) stock. as far as my char is concered it was either say yes or get sent to death row for a murder he didn't commit. if you decide to quit and run you are hunted by those who were your friends. i might possiblly have him seperate from the org. training is standardized but with the opertives unique abillites taken into acount (as in someone who leeches the life out of people through his hands will use more grabbling attacks while say shadow uses injuries inflicted by his opponet for another source of attack power). as for the tech that's something i didn't think of :( .

    i can't think anything else at this time but i might write more (maybe)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    i might suggest watching the Bourne movies (again?)

    very much the feel you've just discribed.... might give you some inspiration.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Excellent movies and a good source for such a character.

    About the full name of the organization gnome...it doesn't ever have to be fully used beyond the initial introduction to it. At that point, just use the anacronym. The other option is to alter the name to Hangman and don't bother with an anacronym.

    P.S. Hope you don't mind my throwing in my 2 cents worth, Ghost.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    not at all... the purpose of this thread is a hub where people wanting help, can find it.... Its about making awsome stories and characters, even if the person with the idea isnt so awsome at writing.


    I dont care who helps them, as long as they get the help they need.....
    ...as long as you(universal you) dont act like a total prat, Im happy for the help. :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    I agree with everything you guys said. Thanks for setting this whole thing up Ghost :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    GhostHack wrote: »
    not at all... the purpose of this thread is a hub where people wanting help, can find it.... Its about making awsome stories and characters, even if the person with the idea isnt so awsome at writing.


    I dont care who helps them, as long as they get the help they need.....
    ...as long as you(universal you) dont act like a total prat, Im happy for the help. :)

    Heh, didn't think you would mind, just thought it would be polite to ask instead of continuing off of an assumption.
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    Thanks for all the help GhostHack!!
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited June 2008
    fiddle with it, Aha, and get back to us, I wanna see how it comes along :)
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    One quick question, I know the major weakness to electricity is water (correct me if I'm wrong) but is there any other power and/or free-form ability that electricity maybe strong/weak against?
  • Archived PostArchived Post Posts: 1,156,071 Arc User
    edited July 2008
    I wouldnt call it "weak" against water.... at all.

    the synergy of water and electricty entirely depends on any need for circuitry. Water is a solid conductor.. no where near copper or even aluminum, but enough(as any layman knows) plenty enough to electrocute a human...and if you were looking at an "inate" water power user vs. an "inate" electricity user.... the electricity user should win hands down every single time, without even blinking.


    its not often the case.... usually water is shown as "shorting out" electricity powers.... but thats just a rediculous misrepresentation based on our real-world experence with electronic items... you throw water on a DvD player, and it gets fried, etc.

    but circutry gets fried because it gets shorted out by water's conductivity. a "mutant" or a "magical" electrical hero/villain, however... would have no "circuitry" to be shorted out.... so the conductivity of the water should "take in" the electricty and fry the person touching it... short circuiting/frying the brain behind it.



    as for other strengths/weaknesses to electricity.... anything weak to fire should also be weak to electricity.... plant powers and the like... and any mental/psychic could concievably be considered weak against electrical attacks.... also, any automaton should be considered weak to both water and electricity.
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