Yeah - the 3.1K requirement is nothing. The real issue is the 29% resistance requirement. So dumb. It's why I've chosen to boycott FB and the new gear. It's not needed for anything, the bonuses you get are barely more than Dragonflight, and you have to grind like mad to keep it empowered. It's idiotic. But, I'd guess most people that are complaining about it will be first in line to use it. The hypocrisy makes me scream.
Send a clear message to Cryptic: Don't use the new gear. Don't run the new DD. At least, anyway, not until they roll back the stuff we've already long told them we didn't like: Empowerment and the resistance requirement. Complaining at them then doing it anyway means nothing - in fact, it tells them to ignore the complaints and keep doing what they're doing because despite the words, the actions prove them right.... So if you're planning to get this gear anyway - stop complaining about how much you hate it because you're as much a part of the problem as Cryptic is.
Not saying 3.1k is pay to Win. I'm nearly there myself although it wont Be this 2xrp weekend. I think i can get it up to Just above 3k. I was Just telling of People who say that you must have to grind a lot for 3.1k. which is an invalid statement as i pointed Out with my extremely exagerated example.
Also if you are 3k ilvl with rank 8 darks you are NOT bis geared with leadership covering your needs. I Am in that situation now lol .... I have 2.7k ilvl. Using armorkits Will bump me to 3.050 ilvl. Believe me ..... I need the rp points from hoard. I got 3 Orange arties and 1 purple. My twisted mh is purple as is my elemental offhand. About to get my twisted offhand. Belt is fully maxed. Neck is purple. All my enchants are either lesser or normal or up to rank 8 as Max.
Tldr 3k ilvl will still need hoard and youbshould tell them off for doing so.
Oh and if you really want to get something usefull go goldgain or something. For some reason People trade Stuff for gold.
PS: Yes i dont like movement as a lot of People think it increases dps because you arrive first. Just Read lia's gwf guide and you'll see what i Mean. even some of the More respected members are falling to the allure of fluffed damage. /Rant ;-)
But, the ones who are going to try to inflate up to 3.1k to squeak into Fangbreaker are likely ones who complain about 1600s doing T1s, 2ks doing CN and 2.5ks doing Edemo. 3.1k is the minimum, so it is likely they will fail hard.
Indeed. I'm just over that mark but I see no need to repeatedly bang my head against the same brick wall all over again for minuscule improvements. Next Mod the Frost Resistance will likely be useless and the rings aren't better than Underdark ones imo. I'll try FBI in Mod 11 perhaps.
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Not saying 3.1k is pay to Win. I'm nearly there myself although it wont Be this 2xrp weekend. I think i can get it up to Just above 3k.
I was Just telling of People who say that you must have to grind a lot for 3.1k. which is an invalid statement as i pointed Out with my extremely exagerated example.
Also if you are 3k ilvl with rank 8 darks you are NOT bis geared with leadership covering your needs. I Am in that situation now lol .... I have 2.7k ilvl. Using armorkits Will bump me to 3.050 ilvl. Believe me ..... I need the rp points from hoard. I got 3 Orange arties and 1 purple. My twisted mh is purple as is my elemental offhand. About to get my twisted offhand. Belt is fully maxed. Neck is purple. All my enchants are either lesser or normal or up to rank 8 as Max.
Tldr
3k ilvl will still need hoard and youbshould tell them off for doing so.
Oh and if you really want to get something usefull go goldgain or something. For some reason People trade Stuff for gold.
PS: Yes i dont like movement as a lot of People think it increases dps because you arrive first. Just Read lia's gwf guide and you'll see what i Mean. even some of the More respected members are falling to the allure of fluffed damage.
/Rant ;-)
No one that's actually slotting darks is at 3k. More like 3.5k+.
@urabask i was refering at oldbaldyones post with my dark vs hoard comment. He specifically says reaching 3.1k by replacing darks with hoard.
That's not what he said either. He said that replacing rank 7 darks with rank 10 DHEs is a bad idea. He was commenting on the fact that DHEs are cheap even at high ilvls so you can inflate your ilvl with them.
Oh and if you really want to get something usefull go goldgain or something. For some reason People trade Stuff for gold.
I have something like 25K gold, what can I buy with it that's of any actual value?
I have no need for the RP enchants thanks to leadership - not that they're really all that useful with their daily drop limits anyway. I don't need the glory (already maxed) and I don't really need the XP one either since even the power points aren't needed anymore. So, I slot darks because it makes me faster - seems to me, that's the only Utility enchant of any tangible value.
PS: Yes i dont like movement as a lot of People think it increases dps because you arrive first. Just Read lia's gwf guide and you'll see what i Mean. even some of the More respected members are falling to the allure of fluffed damage.
/Rant ;-)
Not sure what you're trying to say here, really. I have r12 Quartermasters slotted in my utility, and before those I had Dragonhoards. My build is not about running faster to get there faster, otherwise I'd abuse Battle Fury above the cost of everything else, so I'm still not sure what you're getting at.
Also, as for FBI, to continue the feedback post I wrote on the Preview forums, I doubt anyone will run this dugneon after getting the gear, let alone people running it in the first place. If they're not looking for BIS or minor changes in their gear/stats, I don't see why they should bother.
Firstly i greatly appreciate your guide rinat. its a great guide to follow and not to hard to get a good off. Secondly, my sincere appologies. I could have sworn you were telling People to Run ahead to increase damage. I reread your guide and the closest you came was advertising slam so you didnt have to stop. I'm glad i was mistaken.
@urabask how could i misinterpret 'its a bad idea to swap rank 8 darks for cheaper higher rank hoard when trying to reach 3.1k'? Yes i agree it wont Help you directly with fbi. My Point though was dat for someone Who is 3k the hoard will be better as someone with 3k still has a lot to refine.
@kvet Just pay attention to trade in enclave. I have seen High rank enchants being traded for gold. You actually Made a good point. Donate glory to coffer and resell masterwork Mats.
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Actually @jaysun1977 artifact equipment has a bigger impact than artifacts. Getting equipment to legendary takes a HUGE amount of RP but opens up an extra enchantment slot for EACH piece. Four extra rank 9s is more ilvl than four legendary to mythic artifacts...
That's a fair point, I didn't count the extra enchantment's iL.
Firstly i greatly appreciate your guide rinat. its a great guide to follow and not to hard to get a good off.
Secondly, my sincere appologies. I could have sworn you were telling People to Run ahead to increase damage.
I reread your guide and the closest you came was advertising slam so you didnt have to stop.
I'm glad i was mistaken.
@urabask how could i misinterpret 'its a bad idea to swap rank 8 darks for cheaper higher rank hoard when trying to reach 3.1k'?
Yes i agree it wont Help you directly with fbi. My Point though was dat for someone Who is 3k the hoard will be better as someone with 3k still has a lot to refine.
@kvet Just pay attention to trade in enclave. I have seen High rank enchants being traded for gold.
You actually Made a good point. Donate glory to coffer and resell masterwork Mats.
Except he made one post in this thread and this was it:
This is going to sound somewhat elitist, but you are talking about the ELITE dungeon currently available. Having run it on test with a decent group, I'll tell you this: Unless you are REALLY good with your class, using the old "figure out how to hit the min and then get carried through the instance" technique that has worked with other dungeons won't work here. The first area, way before the first boss....with a basically BIS group somewhat familiar with the area...wiped multiple times.
Its not for the faint of heart and it is intended for people who know the game well, know their class well, have completed all of the other instances, have spent time refining their gear for optimal stats....
It is not for people who are like "Hey, I got these cheap Dragon Hoard enchants that are rank 10s, I'll replace my Dark 7's in my utility slots with these and I'll be able to get to 3101 IL and access the new dungeon, YAY!". You will not have a good time. As it stands, there won't be much "carrying" through this dungeon. Yes, people on test got through it in 30 minutes, but these are people who know their stuff and have gear that wont be immediately available when it opens.
To each their own of course and I wish you the best of luck. I just have concerns about people trying this dungeon at 3100, getting frustrated and not even being able to leave the campfire, and then getting the dungeon nerfed to the point of another cakewalk by people who have been WAITING for this for years.....
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Send a clear message to Cryptic: Don't use the new gear. Don't run the new DD. At least, anyway, not until they roll back the stuff we've already long told them we didn't like: Empowerment and the resistance requirement. Complaining at them then doing it anyway means nothing - in fact, it tells them to ignore the complaints and keep doing what they're doing because despite the words, the actions prove them right.... So if you're planning to get this gear anyway - stop complaining about how much you hate it because you're as much a part of the problem as Cryptic is.
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I was Just telling of People who say that you must have to grind a lot for 3.1k. which is an invalid statement as i pointed Out with my extremely exagerated example.
Also if you are 3k ilvl with rank 8 darks you are NOT bis geared with leadership covering your needs. I Am in that situation now lol .... I have 2.7k ilvl. Using armorkits Will bump me to 3.050 ilvl. Believe me ..... I need the rp points from hoard. I got 3 Orange arties and 1 purple. My twisted mh is purple as is my elemental offhand. About to get my twisted offhand. Belt is fully maxed. Neck is purple. All my enchants are either lesser or normal or up to rank 8 as Max.
Tldr
3k ilvl will still need hoard and youbshould tell them off for doing so.
Oh and if you really want to get something usefull go goldgain or something. For some reason People trade Stuff for gold.
PS: Yes i dont like movement as a lot of People think it increases dps because you arrive first. Just Read lia's gwf guide and you'll see what i Mean. even some of the More respected members are falling to the allure of fluffed damage.
/Rant ;-)
The most important thing in life is to be yourself. Unless you can be Batman. Always be Batman.
Gold gain is even less useful than movement.
I have no need for the RP enchants thanks to leadership - not that they're really all that useful with their daily drop limits anyway. I don't need the glory (already maxed) and I don't really need the XP one either since even the power points aren't needed anymore. So, I slot darks because it makes me faster - seems to me, that's the only Utility enchant of any tangible value.
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Guilds: Greycloaks, Blackcloaks, Whitecloaks, Goldcloaks, Browncloaks, Spiritcloaks, Bluecloaks, Silvercloaks, Black Dawn
Tredecim: The Cloak Alliance
Also, as for FBI, to continue the feedback post I wrote on the Preview forums, I doubt anyone will run this dugneon after getting the gear, let alone people running it in the first place. If they're not looking for BIS or minor changes in their gear/stats, I don't see why they should bother.
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Secondly, my sincere appologies. I could have sworn you were telling People to Run ahead to increase damage.
I reread your guide and the closest you came was advertising slam so you didnt have to stop.
I'm glad i was mistaken.
@urabask how could i misinterpret 'its a bad idea to swap rank 8 darks for cheaper higher rank hoard when trying to reach 3.1k'?
Yes i agree it wont Help you directly with fbi. My Point though was dat for someone Who is 3k the hoard will be better as someone with 3k still has a lot to refine.
@kvet Just pay attention to trade in enclave. I have seen High rank enchants being traded for gold.
You actually Made a good point. Donate glory to coffer and resell masterwork Mats.