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so it goodbye to winXP based players as of March 1, 2017
bobbydazlers
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hope they can upgrade before the deadline.
"As of March 1, 2017, Star Trek Online will no longer be supporting Windows XP and Direct3D 9, or Video Cards with a Direct3D Hardware Feature Level less than 10.0."
otherwise they will be sadly missed.
"As of March 1, 2017, Star Trek Online will no longer be supporting Windows XP and Direct3D 9, or Video Cards with a Direct3D Hardware Feature Level less than 10.0."
otherwise they will be sadly missed.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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Anyone still using XP should see the writing on the wall.
It's a pain to support XP since there are Win32 API calls missing from it, and Microsoft has stripped XP notes from much of their technical docs. So you need to do extra testing and sometimes jump through hoops to work around the lack of features.
For Cryptic, they'll be able to stop maintaining two sets of graphics code for old and new versions of DirectX. Having less code generally means more time to fix bugs and add new features.
On any computer with internet XP no longer has a place so why would a game continue to provide support for an unsafe operating system.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
<.<
The windows 10 upgrade is still free for people who use accessibility software. Nvda is free accessibility software.
I have a fairly old laptop myself and though it runs windows 10 I must say I have been having a lot of problems with the game crashing due to direct3d issues, whether this new change will cure this issue or kill the game on this laptop entirely for me remains to be seen.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
Yeah, i dont know what "experience points based players" could mean or why they would leave either, im just saying.
(if not, then they will probably save a bit of coin)
Also, anybody who uses a computer and doesn't realize that both software and hardware need to be updated/overhauled every so often, hasn't been paying attention for the last ten years.
Whining about a principal fact of life in this electronic age, usually just gets one an over abundance of cheese offerings.
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^^ Best post in the thread.
I'm happy Cryptic is ditching support for Windows XP: it means more resources and time for other things. As it is, Cryptic's continued support for XP, so far along the way, can be considered *extremely* generous. Microsoft gave up on it several years ago already.
thanks, still learning about o:s , and such things like card compability
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That one I don't know about. Microsoft is still selling 32-bit versions of Windows, and some atom / celeron / pentium CPUs can only run 32-bit. Most sales are now 64-bit but there are a lot of 32-bit Windows 7 PCs out there as well as some 8.x and 10.
A 64-bit OS lets you run more things at once, but the only advantage of a 64-bit process for a specific application is more addressable RAM. Unless the STO engine is constrained by the 2 GB per-process address space Crytpic gains nothing from 64-bitness. Also, code changes are required for things like the size of pointers, which means the potential for adding new bugs.
The good news is that laptops are fairly inexpensive in many of the modern industrialized nations of the world. Though electronics do cost an arm and a leg in Australia...
A modern laptop using a Core i3/i5/i7 CPU and integrated Intel HD graphics core is capable of running STO well enough to play the game and does not necessary cost too much if you focus on getting a laptop with a Core i3 CPU.
That requires doubling the size of all of your pointers, bloating your code. You get more registers, and some guarantees as to what floating point hardware's available, at the cost of higher memory usage, and cache misses are a big speed concern. Microsoft's C++ compiler is still 32 bit, for example.
Another reason to drop XP support is tools availability going forward. More modern runtimes don't support XP, so Cryptic couldn't move to the current generation of compilers.
Less so than it used to though (games excluded). When you're using your PC for basic stuff like mail, word porcessing, spreadsheets, the like, the need for upgrades and updates is very small. Until relatively recently I was able to use Office 2000, and it did all it needed to. Many companies don't use the newest computers as long as the older ones are still running.
Still, that change will be inevitable sooner or later should be considered a given. But it ain't as it used to be that you're locked out after one development cycle.
as I said I am running windows 10
and yes it is a 64 bit version as well.
just that anything that has the potential to diversely effect the number of players is worrying so if we loose some to this it is far from a good thing in my eyes.
though I should be ok, and I have always got my much more powerful desktop to fall back on if not I am guessing there's nothing wrong with having a bit of empathy for those who may fall by the wayside.
When I think about everything we've been through together,
maybe it's not the destination that matters, maybe it's the journey,
and if that journey takes a little longer,
so we can do something we all believe in,
I can't think of any place I'd rather be or any people I'd rather be with.
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It's not as much a matter of wanting to use Microsoft anything as it is a necessary evil.
There are no alternatives, Linux is not user friendly enough for the average consumer to adopt and Mac OS is restricted to Apple computers.
and steamOS is still a glorified console