Crit Exploit

nitocris83

We are aware of an issue that allows players to perform an exploit to increase crit. This is not intentional and performing said exploit constitutes a violation of our policy which may result in disciplinary action, including temporary or permanent suspension from the game and/or IP ban.

More detailed information on our policies can be found here.

kolatmaster

nitocris83 said:

We are aware of an issue that allows players to perform an exploit to increase their critical hit stat.

So...

loboguild

A few questions about the incident:

• Are Bay Area players getting exploit infos directly from the devs on Twitter?
• Are all console players immature and insecure?
• When can we grab Trump by the hamster?
• Are tin foil hats of any help?

treesclimber

Pff, many players are at 100% crit chance with bondings already anyways....but this could be problematic in pvp, most people are build for power, increased crit chance can be quite powerfull.
My concern is bigger by another side, from my experience in mmo's players that know the exploit must be selling it for millions, while i have to grind my azz out to get some little ad, and that i dont like so please fix it quickly.

beckylunatic

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loboguild

treesclimber said:

Pff, many players are at 100% crit chance with bondings already anyways....but this could be problematic in pvp, most people are build for power, increased crit chance can be quite powerfull.
My concern is bigger by another side, from my experience in mmo's players that know the exploit must be selling it for millions, while i have to grind my azz out to get some little ad, and that i dont like so please fix it quickly.

If I'm not mistaken it's not about crit "chance".

jenax002

This exploit relates to the CRITICAL SEVERITY not the CRITICAL CHANCE % itself. The bug allows players to have a crazy amount of crit severity. So whenever their hits register as a critical hit in-game they hit crazy numbers. So basically speaking it doesn't matter if you have 100% crit chance, if you don't have a good amount of severity then those hits won't matter that much. As I understand soft cap for crit severity is at 185%. The screenshot that was posted on another forum showed this user having a billion damage on the pain giver boards. The bug itself is not easy to reproduce and involves a time consuming process but the fact that people have started charging millions of astral diamonds to reveal the secret is troublesome and may impact gameplay. That is why probably the developers have decided to make it public that it's a violation of terms and conditions

nightranger7477

Hmmm I am pleasantly surprised that this has been acknowledged and is openly being discussed especially here.... gg @nitocris83 and I hope that this is fixed soon because it is blatantly an exploit that totally unbalances content.

thefiresidecat

nm deleted comment lol

treesclimber

Ok, thanks for the explanation, so crit severity, not chance.

jenax002#5227 said:

This exploit relates to the CRITICAL SEVERITY not the CRITICAL CHANCE % itself. The bug allows players to have a crazy amount of crit severity. So whenever their hits register as a critical hit in-game they hit crazy numbers. So basically speaking it doesn't matter if you have 100% crit chance, if you don't have a good amount of severity then those hits won't matter that much. As I understand soft cap for crit severity is at 185%. The screenshot that was posted on another forum showed this user having a billion damage on the pain giver boards. The bug itself is not easy to reproduce and involves a time consuming process but the fact that people have started charging millions of astral diamonds to reveal the secret is troublesome and may impact gameplay. That is why probably the developers have decided to make it public that it's a violation of terms and conditions

So soft cap at 185% after that each % of crit severity is worth 0,5% then?

Ok, lets see, 27% max from companions, 10% from boons, 65% from feats+ powers(HR max), 5% from pocket pet, 5% from squash soup, 10% from wild storm elixir, 5% from half orc race, 75% from transdread, that all summed up = 202%.
Am i missing anything? If not MR devs please put a temporary hard cap at 210 unless you have a solution coming soon for this.

instynctive

And here I thought this was going to be a "how to guide".

Oh well. Darn my luck.

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(For those of you who don't know me that well, I am JOKING. I honestly don't care if others do stuff like this, unless they're in my guild, then they get DAS BOOT and reported, but I'm glad that Cryptic has acknowledged such a beast exists and they are taking steps to fix it.)

kolatmaster

loboguild said:

When can we grab Trump by the hamster?

treesclimber

http://www.wikihow.com/Hold-a-Hamster

xgrandz02

does it mean u cant fix it yet?

this exploit is going for weeks or months now,
there was many ppl trying to tell about on reddit but they were insta closed or muted by Moderators.

People already exploited the hell out of it,
you reacting too late with your Official message!

xgrandz02

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micky1p00

treesclimber said:

Ok, thanks for the explanation, so crit severity, not chance.

jenax002#5227 said:

This exploit relates to the CRITICAL SEVERITY not the CRITICAL CHANCE % itself. The bug allows players to have a crazy amount of crit severity. So whenever their hits register as a critical hit in-game they hit crazy numbers. So basically speaking it doesn't matter if you have 100% crit chance, if you don't have a good amount of severity then those hits won't matter that much. As I understand soft cap for crit severity is at 185%. The screenshot that was posted on another forum showed this user having a billion damage on the pain giver boards. The bug itself is not easy to reproduce and involves a time consuming process but the fact that people have started charging millions of astral diamonds to reveal the secret is troublesome and may impact gameplay. That is why probably the developers have decided to make it public that it's a violation of terms and conditions

So soft cap at 185% after that each % of crit severity is worth 0,5% then?

Ok, lets see, 27% max from companions, 10% from boons, 65% from feats+ powers(HR max), 5% from pocket pet, 5% from squash soup, 10% from wild storm elixir, 5% from half orc race, 75% from transdread, that all summed up = 202%.
Am i missing anything? If not MR devs please put a temporary hard cap at 210 unless you have a solution coming soon for this.

Orrrr they can fix the exploit, which is not difficult. No need to do some caps that will later be removed (because stuff added and wont work) and exploits will be back, because....

Also, probably my personal issue but I really hate the soft cap term here. and not sure of what the 0.5%

At 185% severity 10% increase will increase dps by 3.5% (at 100% crit chance) This is about 0.35% dps increase per 1% severity.
At 50k power that is equal 3k power, or at 100k power 4.9k power. Now would that wild storm elixir will help benefit you or is it as soft cap. This is also better than fire archon and many other options (in terms of active bonus as example).

dmcewen

The easy fix would be cap crit severity, the HR has the highest potential crit severity if I'm not mistaken.

From there just start banning the select individuals that have been identified as the ones abusing the exploit and the ones who are openly selling the exploit.

I just can't believe someone would openly use their main character and provide their gamer tag in attempt to sell this exploit, what a moron.

demonmonger

Unban me .. I won't sell exploits any more...

Shame on anyone selling secrets in game, that's what ebay is for. Jk

Some things get patched, some things get removed, most things get nerfed.

wintersmoke

demonmonger said:

Unban me .. I won't sell exploits any more...



Shame on anyone selling secrets in game, that's what ebay is for. Jk



Some things get patched, some things get removed, most things get nerfed.

Ah... but will you sell exploits any less... THAT is the question?

demonmonger

Never!!!!

forumnamesuxs

Well, this might explain the HR I met in dom not too long ago, with 110-120 something % crit chance, and nowhere near enough stat points to support that amount.

Edit:
BTW, is it possible to do this by accident? I rarely pay attention to my stats, and it would kind of suck to be banned because of something like this.

dread4moor

I can't believe they haven't fixed this already.
I watched someone do it months ago (I'm legit, so left his party immediately).
Very hard cheat too perform. Very easy to fix...
And easy to get caught trying it. Don't bother.
So blatant and traceable that a ban is almost certain.

spideymt

BTW: There is no way to use this exploit by "accident". I dont have a problem if they get a ban. Not at all.

diloul31

This game is already so easy, why would someone use that kind of xploit ?

I understand now why i saw a hr 2400 doing more damage than me with 3k

loboguild

diloul31 said:

This game is already so easy, why would someone use that kind of xploit ?

Pretty much this. But it seems that the thing has gone full rampage on consoles with kids trying to be "someone". The exploit also is very obvious. It's not about someone out-damaging you on the paingiver with fewer item level. People literally one-shot bosses. It's the Orcus set all over again.

Btw. kudos for acknowledging the exploit, that's progress in terms of communication. Hopefully the appropriate actions will be taken.

micky1p00

loboguild said:

diloul31 said:

This game is already so easy, why would someone use that kind of xploit ?

Pretty much this. But it seems that the thing has gone full rampage on consoles with kids trying to be "someone". The exploit also is very obvious. It's not about someone out-damaging you on the paingiver with fewer item level. People literally one-shot bosses. It's the Orcus set all over again.

Btw. kudos for acknowledging the exploit, that's progress in terms of communication. Hopefully the appropriate actions will be taken.

I really really hope it will be a 30k crit severity ban hammer hit. For those that try to make a profit out of it (RL $).

oldbaldyone

It wouldn't be so bad if these folks didn't openly brag about it, and insult others. The 4-5 times I have been grouped with these folks, and they have been the same class as me, they seem to just openly brag about their DPS...

"LOL, beating 4k HR as a 3k HR, nub 4k HR!" "I'm just better than you, get good". "Woot, look at me, top paingiver again!"

I don't bother inspecting them, so sure some of these people could be legit and just jerks, but some double and triple my damage...not to brag, but I can usually at least keep up with people.

Anyways, this seems like a really easy fix. I have a general idea how its done, and I'm assuming since this is posted, Cryptic does also. Seems to be this would be a really easy thing to detect.

Anyways.