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As UK citizen, so not eligable to enter the Design Contest, I thought it would be a good idea to start a thread for people to write down, post pictures of what they would like to see the next Enterprise look, function like etc.
My first suggestion is that the ship be the first Federation in game "Universal" Ship, so it could be used by each career and depending on what career you were the Enterprise would come with the relevant passive skills as any other ship of that career, relevant BO and console slots plus a special power...
Science Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Meta-Phasic Shields - immune to all damage
b) Inverse "insert scientific name" Field - damage foes, heal allies
c) Temporal Inversion - Enemy ship reverts to a lower tiered ship for duration
d) Nanite Contagion - Hull Damage over time
Engineering Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Hull Drones - Hull Heal over time
b) Power Overload - Act like viral matrix, bringing down subsystems in turn
c) Extend Warp Field - Increase in movement and turn rate with a large defense bonus
d) Graviton Anchor - Enemy hold that spreads to all enemies within 10km of each other (like tachyon detection grid)
Tactical Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Attack Pattern Gamma - Pulls allied ships into formation all with damage and movement bonus
b) Torpedo Transport - Transport torpedo onto enemy ship through shields so longer cooldown on this power
c) Squadron Deployment - Either 10 Fighters; 5 Frigates or 2 Escorts come to your aid and target your same target
d) Phaser/Tetryon, plasma etc Explosion - All beam and cannon weapons are directed to a single point in space, which builds up into a massive ball of that weapon type, which then explodes with a 5 km radius and damages shields and hull
I can imagine some good FX and sound with all these powers :rolleyes:
Another idea which a lot of Fed players have been wanting, is a Federation Carrier, which the next Enterprise could be and work all long the same line as the Klinks.
Design-wise I have seen some interesting and great entries on to the contest website. Some of my favourites have been some of the more "fatter, meaty designs". Which is strange as I generally prefer a sleeker look; I guess some of the designs have satisfied both aspects, go check them out.
I would love to see some external lighting decal on the new design like what cryptic did on the Nomad and Comet.
My main wish is my Universal Ship idea, such an Iconic ship I think should be open to all careers and characters at Tier 6 with the level cap increase. I know all ships are available to all careers at the moment, but I mean truly Universal as explained above, as at the moment a Sci captian in a Escort does not get the Sci passives/power levels on that ship.
I would also love to see the 3 variations of each part to mix and match like all the other tiered ships; so release official contest winner design and two other variaties.
Any other suggestion about the ships design or function please post...
My first suggestion is that the ship be the first Federation in game "Universal" Ship, so it could be used by each career and depending on what career you were the Enterprise would come with the relevant passive skills as any other ship of that career, relevant BO and console slots plus a special power...
Science Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Meta-Phasic Shields - immune to all damage
b) Inverse "insert scientific name" Field - damage foes, heal allies
c) Temporal Inversion - Enemy ship reverts to a lower tiered ship for duration
d) Nanite Contagion - Hull Damage over time
Engineering Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Hull Drones - Hull Heal over time
b) Power Overload - Act like viral matrix, bringing down subsystems in turn
c) Extend Warp Field - Increase in movement and turn rate with a large defense bonus
d) Graviton Anchor - Enemy hold that spreads to all enemies within 10km of each other (like tachyon detection grid)
Tactical Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Attack Pattern Gamma - Pulls allied ships into formation all with damage and movement bonus
b) Torpedo Transport - Transport torpedo onto enemy ship through shields so longer cooldown on this power
c) Squadron Deployment - Either 10 Fighters; 5 Frigates or 2 Escorts come to your aid and target your same target
d) Phaser/Tetryon, plasma etc Explosion - All beam and cannon weapons are directed to a single point in space, which builds up into a massive ball of that weapon type, which then explodes with a 5 km radius and damages shields and hull
I can imagine some good FX and sound with all these powers :rolleyes:
Another idea which a lot of Fed players have been wanting, is a Federation Carrier, which the next Enterprise could be and work all long the same line as the Klinks.
Design-wise I have seen some interesting and great entries on to the contest website. Some of my favourites have been some of the more "fatter, meaty designs". Which is strange as I generally prefer a sleeker look; I guess some of the designs have satisfied both aspects, go check them out.
I would love to see some external lighting decal on the new design like what cryptic did on the Nomad and Comet.
My main wish is my Universal Ship idea, such an Iconic ship I think should be open to all careers and characters at Tier 6 with the level cap increase. I know all ships are available to all careers at the moment, but I mean truly Universal as explained above, as at the moment a Sci captian in a Escort does not get the Sci passives/power levels on that ship.
I would also love to see the 3 variations of each part to mix and match like all the other tiered ships; so release official contest winner design and two other variaties.
Any other suggestion about the ships design or function please post...
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Science Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) I so hate this on PvE ships! I believe it is a cruiser ship function though making it an engineering skill.
b) I like this idea
c) I don't see this one working
d) Sounds interesting!
Engineering Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) I really hope the F is not a carrier!
b) You should go more indepth for this it sounds like it affects yourself.
c) Sounds interesting
d) I like this to a point. 5km maybe and it pulls ships together like you made the target a giant magnet!
Tactical Enterprise F power suggestions:
a) Don't know about formation part but a team speed and manuverability skill would be interesting
b) I doubt this
c) I don't know about this. Cross between PF and a carrier...idk
d) interesting idea
I really don't want to see the F be a carrier. The Jupiter Dreadnaught could be but I hope not the Enterprise.
(Please lets not turn this thread in to a Carrier one, keep it on the Enterprise)
My design may not be the absolute best showcase for the feature (I can accept the critique that it looks flimsy while used) but one thing I've been really married to since I dreamed it up is the idea of a phase cloak.
The references to it in TNG made it seem possible in the then-near future and with Federation using cloaks on some ships, it seems viable.
My core idea is rather than using it as a stealth feature, using it to reduce the mass of a ship for enhanced maneuvering.
Saucer separation was a neat idea but seems unwieldy in practice. The saucer tends to get stranded or, worse, crash.
Phasing part of a ship lets you keep it attached while making that part of the ship massless. This could be useful in a variety of ways; you could use it to build momentum or as a secondary power source. I also think that it could be a practical alternative to escape pods by moving the crew to what I call the "ghost decks" or "auxillary hull" and then phasing them, leaving them safe until they can be retrieved, something escape pods and a separated saucer don't offer, especially in hostile deep space.
Afraid that entry is a fraud, because that was ripped from a Bridge Commander Mod. Heck there videos of it on Youtube.
It's designed to be a troop carrier/destroyer. It really a tank of a starship.
b) interesting, and a nice addition
c) ...not sure that one can be used
d) kinda like plasma damage, but without the slow torpedo... i like it
a) i think engineers have enough healing-ish powers already (i think)
b) maybe, if you could be more specific
c) a good one, and maybe it could affect the enemies speed as well
d) i think we need this one
a) good idea, just lose the instant allied bonus (unless you aim it at an ally)
b) not a good idea... since transporters can't go through shields (except in special cases that this game can't replicate)
c) maybe... but it might make the carrier fans a bit mad
d) interesting idea
my thoughts on your suggestions, that is all
I think the Ent F should remain simple in form and sleak like all the other Ent. It needs the famous dual nacelle and saucer shape that is the icon of the name. I have seen a lot of great entries that have all these elements. My humble attempt at a design kept this in mind.
IMO, I think it would be sleek and graceful, but functional and simple in design. Roddenberry and Jeffries (Matt Jeffries, designer of the TOS Enterprise) had agreed that the Enterprise shouldn't have fins or spikes when they designed the first one. I feel the new Enterprise should have the same feeling.
The Enterprise shouldn't look imposing or agressive, but still look solid enough that you wouldn't want to pick a fight with it. It should have the feeling of the cavalry coming to the rescue when it shows up.
First Contact did an excellent job of doing that with the E. So much that I don't think I could make a decent entry, as my submission would be too much like the E, just cosmetically altered...
EXACTLY. Right on the nose.
It ran out of fuel and Starfleet decided it was easier to just replace it than to refill it.
Why would it make my design and model a fraud because I ported it to a Bridge Commander mod?
It was used in Starfleet Command before that, Star trek Armada... but that doesn't make the design a fraud.
It's just as valid as any other entry.
Here's the issue:
Cryptic Contest Rules:
Filefront Bridge Commander Mod Site:
Even if you're the author of a file found on the bridge commander mod site:
- You signed over something you didn't have clear rights to as posting it there gave Filefront a license to it.
- Previously published work is ineligible. (This because, among other reasons, it may give you and third parties a legal claim to ownership of the material later.)
- The material is now property of Cryptic/Atari but with a perpetual license to Filefront. It violates everyone's interests. Cryptic wants clear, sole, perpetual ownership. Filefront has a prior licensing claim on the material.
Hi boss. Good to see that you finally got on the forums.
I will post a few notions in a bit. Personally we have the Excelsior for a tac cruiser, the nebula for a science cruiser, and the Gal-R for a engineer cruiser. Maybe I am being lazy but I think they have kinda painted themselves into a corner on this one. That said I would need a little time to get my mind out of the box on this one.
http://www.startrekonline.com/enterprise/gallery?filter=search&keyword=Ricardo
However, since i can't really win... i LOL every time i say this. I'm more worried about the story arc around what happened to the Enterprise E.
Also I would love that quest to take us to the remains of the Enterprise D aswell, recover so lost data about Geordi's studies on a potencial new type of ship.
The new Enterprise should be according to Star Trek tradition an EXPLORATION vessel, not a Battleship or Dreadnaught. I would like it to have an Sharp look, not as bulky as the Kirk's ship or the D. I would like it to be a mixture of Fed building type, Klingom building type and Romulan build type. An most important it should be equipped with a cloaking device.
A ship the size of the E could be seen from the ground via a telescope, as seen on First Contact, if a race not advenced enough for warp travel but advanced enough to have a detection system could see the ship, the Prime Derictive would go out the airlock!
I know that my model is bulky, but it's design to be a battleship/carrier. I think that the new Enterprise should have a Starfighter corps attached to it.
One idea was a ship with a Sovereign-like saucer with a shuttle bay built under the bridge with entrances both in front of and behind the bridge module. That was sort of a carrier like idea. The Saucer section also had two steamrunner like nacelles build into it and an NX class like navigational deflector.
The engineering hull looked like the lower 1/2 of an andorian warship with a battle bridge on the underside and a navigational deflector above it. The idea being that during saucer separation the secondary hull would roll 180 degrees and then be of the familiar starfleet structure. And then both the saucer and engineering hull could be completely autonomous as the saucer would have independent warp capability and it's own navigational deflector.
I scrapped the idea becuase It looked clunky like the "Raging Queen" and I couldn't really think of a plausible way that the rotational engineering hull would work (the captain's chair would have to be bolted to the roof during normal flight, etc.)
I kind of liked the idea of emphasing the saucer separation though, but that's just me.
I also had another design that I called the Repentent Class which aesthetically was pretty much a blending of features from pre-Dominion War classes. The reason I called it Repentent was that it was supposed to be an effort to make a ship that resembled the ships back from the more idealistic time when there was relative peace, before Federation ships took on a more militaristic design and compromised those ideas.
My idea has an Avenger like saucer paired with a elongated Sovereign, Typhoon like hull but that smoothly curves into the saucer and not just out like the typhoon. It goes 3/4ths the way underneath the saucer, and has a Vanguard type deflector dish. The saucer is not a full oval, as it has a curve cut out where the hull connects and merges with it.
The nacelles are a mix between the Monarch and another class, but their is a third nacelle which is different from the other two. It is connected by two pylons in a similar way as the U.S.S. Premonitions from Star Trek Armada game, but instead of from the sides one is from the saucer and other from the hull. This nacelle is for more transwarp and slipstream usage and an additional sub deflector dish.
I am trying to see something that eventually could lead to the J. The deflector dish is starting to approach the front of the ship, the saucer is starting to go back to side ways oval, the hull is getting longer, and eventually tech will catch up and the third nacelle won't be needed.
I wish I could draw
P.S. It would be the "Han" class after the Han Dynasty from China.
P.P.S. Function, Command and Control/ Very Long Range Explorer type ship. I see a Eng Com, LtC, Ensign slots, Tactical LtC slot, Science LtC slot. 4 Eng consoles, 3 sci and 3 tact.
Filefront has no claim to the design, I never posted the file there - someone else did who didn't have publishing rights.
You're also assuming that filefront's disclaimer is worth the photons you can see on your screen. A lawyer would educate you otherwise.
The rules for this contest specify that a design can never have been published before. Authorized or unauthorized, I don't think Atari wants the legal hassle of talking to a lawyer about an entry.
If you designed that ship, you can design a new one for this contest that's never been published, with or without your consent. I think you're playing games by saying it was published without your consent but the fact is that it's been published and that disqualifies it from THIS contest as per the rules. It wouldn't matter whether you've published it or not.
If a mugger came up to you on the street and stole your design and ran sent it in to Star Trek magazine and they published it, you might have a claim against the mugger but it's published and therefore ineligible for this contest.
If you designed that ship, you can take the tools and know-how you used to make it and design a never-before-seen entry for this contest.
Based on your comments I'm going to go out on a limb here and say it's probable you have no experience or training when it comes to contest and copyright law.
I've been a professional artist and producer probably as long as you've been alive. I have dealt with these issues firsthand. I'm not going to debate minutia with someone who at best has a fraction of my experience, there's no point.
The bottom line is, if Cryptic/Atari feels the need to perform diligence,on whichever design wins, they certainly have the right to do that. If they deem an entry ineligible, that's their prerogative. But you don't represent Cryptic/Atari, and based on my experience I think you're misinterpreting a few things. I therefore don't consider your conclusions valid.
Guys this is not a thread about the legality of Contest entries; so let's refocus on the topic, ideas about the design and functionality of the new Enterprise.
Thank you
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