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Time for a new MW Juggernaut?
ussvinovia
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The Vaadwaur MW Jug has been the go to for over half a decade. It would be great to have an alternative, ideally a non alien ship.
Withe the exception of the relatively new 'G', all canon Enterprises have a legendary version except the J. How about a legendary Universe MW Juggernaut? The easiest design would be the one that has what looks like a giant version of one of its Frigates as a hull. But the Eaves concept is just stunning (attached).
No hanger bays, just a MW Juggernaut but eng and sci based as opposed to the Vaadwaur's tac consoles. I'd go for 2 tac, 5 Eng, 4 sci. It would have to be a 5/3 layout.
Thoughts?
Withe the exception of the relatively new 'G', all canon Enterprises have a legendary version except the J. How about a legendary Universe MW Juggernaut? The easiest design would be the one that has what looks like a giant version of one of its Frigates as a hull. But the Eaves concept is just stunning (attached).
No hanger bays, just a MW Juggernaut but eng and sci based as opposed to the Vaadwaur's tac consoles. I'd go for 2 tac, 5 Eng, 4 sci. It would have to be a 5/3 layout.
Thoughts?
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With its size, it already has something of an unique status. To me, these ships are already legendary - they're from the future and they're basically moving starbases. Adding a legendary giant will only make the existing giant much less impressive.
Besides, it never really appeared anywhere in the shows. We only saw one hallway and its outline on a display inside the ship itself. It had no action scenes that showed the ship from the outside, no known crew (except that some were 'Xindi').
I don't think it deserves or needs legendary treatment.
Frankly I think we're due for a Legendary Negh'Var, which could fill the proposed role pretty easily. A downsized Regent's Flagship with updated Mirror Universe skin and a Disruptor Juggernaut Array would be fun. I mean we got the Mirror Legendary Gal-X. Why not a Mirror Negh'var?
> Nope sorry Pilot based Juggernaut comes first.
That really makes no sense.
> As for the Universe class: I'm not in favor of adding a legendary version.
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> With its size, it already has something of an unique status. To me, these ships are already legendary - they're from the future and they're basically moving starbases. Adding a legendary giant will only make the existing giant much less impressive.
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> Besides, it never really appeared anywhere in the shows. We only saw one hallway and its outline on a display inside the ship itself. It had no action scenes that showed the ship from the outside, no known crew (except that some were 'Xindi').
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> I don't think it deserves or needs legendary treatment.
The current Universe is anything but impressive. It's an OK carrier (despite the designation). Regardless of how much we see it, it is a canon Enterprise and deserves a Legendary version.
You're not the only one who thinks so:
He's also done theorycrafts for a lego Malon and a playable Borg Diamond.
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It has absolutely no customization options for kitbashing.
After the 10th Anniversary bundle pretty much every Legendary has had multiple variants to kitbash with already existing, as well as having been very prominent in the shows. The Universe Class does not meet any of the set criteria Cryptic has laid out for a Legendary.
> It has absolutely no customization options for kitbashing.
> After the 10th Anniversary bundle pretty much every Legendary has had multiple variants to kitbash with already existing, as well as having been very prominent in the shows. The Universe Class does not meet any of the set criteria Cryptic has laid out for a Legendary.
With a legendary version design, we would have two sets. That's 16 possible combinations. I'm down with that. To be honest I just want a non-alien mw Jug that wasn't tac heavy.
Negh'var is a VERY obvious choice...if we didn't already have a legendary Scim I would say the thalaron pulse would make a great juggernaut weapon (especially since the set version just isn't worth it)
I guess a juggernaut doesn't have to be legendary, I mean it's not like we don't have multiple versions of T6 ships...bunch of Odyssey and Galaxy line ships
Very True. We have the World Razer after all.
> Personally, I don't think the Universe qualifies for Legendary either. It has had almost no screen time, etc. and just the name "Enterprise" does not make a hero ship, it has earn it. If it was just the name, it would make the XCV-330 and the NASA space shuttle Enterprise eligible even though they never appeared anywhere in the shows except as models on desks and wall hangings. It is rather hard for a decoration to be "heroic".
Wasn't it responsible for winning the battle of Procyon? (However its spelt). The temporal time war. I think the J earned it.
> Very True. We have the World Razer after all.
Not a MW.
> Klingons and Romulans could definitely use some love
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> Negh'var is a VERY obvious choice...if we didn't already have a legendary Scim I would say the thalaron pulse would make a great juggernaut weapon (especially since the set version just isn't worth it)
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> I guess a juggernaut doesn't have to be legendary, I mean it's not like we don't have multiple versions of T6 ships...bunch of Odyssey and Galaxy line ships
There are literally no 5/3 Fed MW jugs.
May not be MW, but its not a Legendary, and it IS a variant of an existing class, the Galaxy.
Daniels said it was an important part of that battle, yes, but except for a few seconds of view of other ships fighting (if it actually fired a shot itself in that scene it is not memorable enough to even recall). The old adage of "show, don't tell" is still around for a good reason.
If they would have shown the Enterprise-J (and possibly other Universe class ships) fighting and introduced the top officers in a way that implied that they were themselves legendary figures, and generally expanded on it all a bit, then it would have "earned" qualifications for Legendary status. Then there is the matter of the other variants of the class necessary to qualify (a big part of the definition is that the base class be solid enough to have a number of variants), but it completely lacks those, and dialog even seems to imply that it was a total one-off with no other ships of the class at all much less variants.