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    thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    Didn't they also decide that was more canon because of the mirror episodes of Enterprise showcasing yellow markings?

    I believe so. Then they changed it to red. Which is what the Terran Empire would have been using in Enterprise if it showed up better on the camera.
    You could use the Jem Hadar shield from the episodes as a substitute purple MU costume

    Yeah. I use to tell people to use that shield for the Mirror Wars foundry stuff at the time.

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    Typhoon Class please!
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    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    So, the same metagame-ideal stats and layouts so many others have? pig-2.gif​​

    Buff it's hull, resistance and shield stat and that should be more than ideal.
    Yeah, she's going to be slower and less easy to turn but that's a trade off for the the stat buffs.

    so D'Derpidex 2.0?
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    theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »
    So, the same metagame-ideal stats and layouts so many others have? pig-2.gif​​

    Buff it's hull, resistance and shield stat and that should be more than ideal.
    Yeah, she's going to be slower and less easy to turn but that's a trade off for the the stat buffs.

    so D'Derpidex 2.0?

    Would not go that far, a slight debuff in speed and turn as to reflect the size of the ship
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      thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
      angrytarg wrote: »
      So, the same metagame-ideal stats and layouts so many others have? pig-2.gif​​

      Buff it's hull, resistance and shield stat and that should be more than ideal.
      Yeah, she's going to be slower and less easy to turn but that's a trade off for the the stat buffs.

      so D'Derpidex 2.0?

      Would not go that far, a slight debuff in speed and turn as to reflect the size of the ship

      You want to debuff the Typhoon?! What kind of Typhoonism is this?!
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      Typhoon Class please!
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      theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
      edited February 21
      thay8472 wrote: »
      angrytarg wrote: »
      So, the same metagame-ideal stats and layouts so many others have? pig-2.gif​​

      Buff it's hull, resistance and shield stat and that should be more than ideal.
      Yeah, she's going to be slower and less easy to turn but that's a trade off for the the stat buffs.

      so D'Derpidex 2.0?

      Would not go that far, a slight debuff in speed and turn as to reflect the size of the ship

      You want to debuff the Typhoon?! What kind of Typhoonism is this?!

      Only slightly on the speed and turn rate, everything else is just hull, shields and resistance stats buffs as the trade off
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        rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
        Isn't the difference between the D'deridex and Galaxy like 1 DPS (Degrees per Second) turn rate?
        I know the Legendary's base turn rate matches the Galaxy which is quite noticeable compared to the standard T6 D'deridex.
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        novapolaris#2925 novapolaris Member Posts: 777 Arc User
        I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.
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        theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
        I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

        To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle
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          novapolaris#2925 novapolaris Member Posts: 777 Arc User
          I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

          To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

          True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.
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          phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,507 Arc User
          edited February 21
          I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

          To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

          It makes sense for game balance, and is almost supported by spinoff Trek shows, but in the original show turn rate was a non-issue since ships at warp could make hairpin turns no matter what speed they were going and spin in place without inertial drag holding them back.
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          theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
          I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

          To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

          It makes sense for game balance, and is almost supported by spinoff Trek shows, but in the original show turn rate was a non-issue since ships at warp could make hairpin turns no matter what speed they were going and spin in place without inertial drag holding them back.

          Maybe give it the Oddy's turn rate
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            inferiorityinferiority Member Posts: 4,005 Arc User
            To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle
            Same is true for seafaring vessels, aircraft and road vehicles.
            Consider the manoeuvrability of a small dinghy vs a luxury liner, or a motorcycle vs a bus.
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            thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
            I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

            To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

            What if we strap giant rockets to the side of it?
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            Typhoon Class please!
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            theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
            edited February 21
            To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle
            Same is true for seafaring vessels, aircraft and road vehicles.
            Consider the manoeuvrability of a small dinghy vs a luxury liner, or a motorcycle vs a bus.

            That was my line of thinking though more placements of manoeuvring thrusters could help
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              -Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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              rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,020 Community Moderator
              thay8472 wrote: »
              What if we strap giant rockets to the side of it?

              Pretty sure the RCS thrusters cound already. ;)
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              vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
              I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

              To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

              True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.

              well if everyone is saying dreadnought/juggernaut, yea they are talking bigger. personally I think another 4x4 cruiser regardless of spc is rather meh, but you do you
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              theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
              I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

              To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

              True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.

              I'd say about same size as the Jem Hadar Vanguard Dread cruiser
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                westx211westx211 Member Posts: 42,215 Arc User
                I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

                To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

                True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.

                well if everyone is saying dreadnought/juggernaut, yea they are talking bigger. personally I think another 4x4 cruiser regardless of spc is rather meh, but you do you

                Making it a C store juggernaut could be pretty cool.
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                novapolaris#2925 novapolaris Member Posts: 777 Arc User
                edited February 22
                I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

                To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

                True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.

                well if everyone is saying dreadnought/juggernaut, yea they are talking bigger. personally I think another 4x4 cruiser regardless of spc is rather meh, but you do you

                I... wasn't asking for a 4x4 cruiser. And since I missed some context (sorry >_<), a juggernaut would be interesting.
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                avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,196 Arc User
                There's already so many fed dreadnoughts, they need a jugganaut for a change.
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                angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,001 Arc User
                edited February 22
                I'm iffy on the idea of a ship being made to turn worse than the D'deridex. Sub 20deg/s turnrate is... bad feeling.

                To be fair, the larger the ship, the larger the turning circle

                True. And I don't think a Typhoon would be as massive as a D'deridex, but I could be wrong.

                I'd say about same size as the Jem Hadar Vanguard Dread cruiser

                I'm parked next to one in BGO. It is pretty much the exact size as a Negh'Var variant's body minus the wings and bridge module.

                EDIT: Yes, my Klingon has a T6 Negh'Var using the Qu'Daj main hull (with Negh'var wings/pylons and bridge module if I remember correctly - since the character is stuck in BGO for years, a model overhaul caused parts of the ship to disappear. Only the non-revised Qu'Daj parts remain and those happen to be the almost exact size as the Typhoon next to it)

                EDIT 2:

                See my screenshot from page 2 of this thread

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                thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
                avoozuul wrote: »
                There's already so many fed dreadnoughts, they need a jugganaut for a change.

                A Fed Jug? An Interesting idea.
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                theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
                Considering what we got with the World Razer, a C-Store Typhoon Juggernaut would be nice.
                Give it same turn rate as the Jem Hadar Vanguard Dread as well for good measure
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                  thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
                  Considering what we got with the World Razer, a C-Store Typhoon Juggernaut would be nice.
                  Give it same turn rate as the Jem Hadar Vanguard Dread as well for good measure

                  Psst! Phaser Lance!.. but .. it fires out the back!

                  What would you call your hypothetical Typhoon? I call dibs on the USS / ISS Typhoon!
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                  Typhoon Class please!
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                  theraven2378theraven2378 Member Posts: 5,986 Arc User
                  U.S.S./I.S.S. Kamikaze (Divine Wind)
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                    "The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
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                    vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 3,857 Arc User
                    thay8472 wrote: »
                    Considering what we got with the World Razer, a C-Store Typhoon Juggernaut would be nice.
                    Give it same turn rate as the Jem Hadar Vanguard Dread as well for good measure

                    Psst! Phaser Lance!.. but .. it fires out the back!

                    What would you call your hypothetical Typhoon? I call dibs on the USS / ISS Typhoon!

                    so you are forcing the crew to eat beans and bad mexican food?
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                    thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
                    so you are forcing the crew to eat beans and bad mexican food?

                    The food will be prepared by Neelix!

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                    Typhoon Class please!
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                    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,321 Arc User
                    ISS Typhoid Mary.

                    Poison build mandatory.
                    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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                    thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,101 Arc User
                    Poison build?
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                    Typhoon Class please!
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                    questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,321 Arc User
                    Anything that pollutes the environment.

                    Warp plasma, theta radiation etc.
                    Think Malon freighter.
                    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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