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Hi all,
I was curious if anyone uses the specific boff ground commands and pause button. Been playing for two years and I just started focusing on the ground side about 6 months ago. I basically set my team up as a military fire team. Team leader, grenadier, medic and two rifleman. I started using the paise button and giving my boffs individual commands. For example, I’ll have myself and the grenadier start attacking the enemy to pin them down as I order my rifleman to flank. Pausing as I reevaluate the situation. Takes some getting used to but now I absolutely love ground.
Wondering if anyone else plays this way or does everyone just set up for max dps and bulldoze everything. That’s how I play my Gorn but find it boring.
Thanks all. Have a great weekend. I’m
I was curious if anyone uses the specific boff ground commands and pause button. Been playing for two years and I just started focusing on the ground side about 6 months ago. I basically set my team up as a military fire team. Team leader, grenadier, medic and two rifleman. I started using the paise button and giving my boffs individual commands. For example, I’ll have myself and the grenadier start attacking the enemy to pin them down as I order my rifleman to flank. Pausing as I reevaluate the situation. Takes some getting used to but now I absolutely love ground.
Wondering if anyone else plays this way or does everyone just set up for max dps and bulldoze everything. That’s how I play my Gorn but find it boring.
Thanks all. Have a great weekend. I’m
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> Actually, I've been hoping for an update to Ground combat. I'd love for us to have Ground commands, similar to Carrier commands, that would put our Away Team into various formations automatically: Line, File, Wedge, V, Circle... I'd also love to see the half Specializations made into full Specs, so that we could train our BOFFs in those skills as well, further enhancing Ground combat. I really want Commando BOFFs. 😁
That sounds amazing. I do find the existing system more complex then I first thought tho. I love the total war games and the pause and play style. I understand most players just want to blow thru content but being able to give individual commands and selecting what abilities I want my boffs to use has been a blast. I find myself sneaking up on groups, evaluating the terrain and thinking about how I’m going to plan my attack. Are we going to be aggressive using flanking tactics, head on attack or is there a choke point to draw the enemy into a trap. It really has improved the gameplay, for myself, of course. I get not everyone wants to pause and plan but learning the ground system really scratches that strategic side I love.
Thanks for answering. I hope you guys have a great weekend.
Solo ground is the only place to fight with your own crew, and be free from the eye-bleeding spam of 20 neon AOE hazards and swirly things. In ground a TFOs it's hard to even target foes there's so much splatter hiding them
That's not to say that selecting the different abilities doesn't have its uses for different styles of play, but why there isn't a "master switch" is beyond me.
It's just more fun for me that my Landing Party use the weapons I've bothered to equip them with.
The only reason I let them out of their gilded cage that is my bridge is because Starfleet, from time to time, insists I do so.
sometimes I split them into Teams of 2 and place them on opposite sides of each other, that way the enemy gets shot in 2 different directions in a pincer attack, while I play the part of being the bait.
Wait... you have to click 4 times for each of your BOFFs, The BOFFs pretty much do everything on their own on the console version, though I wish they were smart enough to not put down Cover Shields in front of doorways, you have to wait awhile until it disappears.
They do things on their own on PC as well. Its just that some people prefer to disable their BOff abilities and have them only use their weapon.
And honestly I wouldn't trust BOffs to place Cover Shields so I'd replace that ability with something more useful.
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Yes, never give them cover shield. They love to pick the worst possible spot.
I also don't give them sniper rifles, at least when my captain is an Engineer. "Time to place some constructs and mines before battle...hey! why'd you let them know we're here. Is the word 'Ambush' not in your vocabulary!?" Or on Nimbus, they love to bring every arthropod on the map into battle when I'm just trying to get to one of the story missions.
Have to admit, the cover shield thing with BOFFs can sometimes be funny. Its like the BOFF goes "Oh, you really dont like us? OK, im gonna really TRIBBLE with your day"
As for STO, I second Baddmoonrizin about the formations thing, for instance it would be great to be able to have my faux-Vorta captains surrounded by or behind the boffs instead of being out ahead of them.
That's the worst thing about Boffs on the ground. Also in other zones like Kobali Prime or the Dyson battlezone, they tend to attract enemies that could've been ignored because they tend to walk something like two metres beside you on each side, making you broader than when you are on your own.
And of course they feel the need to stop and return fire every time this happens, instead of maintaining run speed.
The simple fix is that if you move while executing and grenade throw etc then that action stops and your character moves away from the burning ground or where a grenade is about to hit. There's a reason why 3 out of 5 players leave the tfo if it is a ground one on console, and that's because you die a lot because your character won't move out of the path of a grenade, plasma flames or other AOE effect while it stands there performing an animation of some ability.
And no, non automating these abilities is not the answer as the dialogue windows overlap the ability wheels so you can't see what ability you are trying to activate if you do it manually.(this happens is space also) plus it is slow going trying to locate the ability you want in combat, as they never stay in the same place on the wheel, so doing the actions manually will get you killed just as easily as standing there like an idiot while fire rains down on your char as it performs it's animation.
What is the point of cover and concealment when every NPC can not only see me but shoot right through the rock outcropping I'm currently taking shelter behind?
Ground combat in this game has been ignored almost as much as PvP. I'm delighted to see someone has taken enough interest in this game to announce publicly something needs improving. I have every confidence anything on improving Ground Combat will not go any further than this announcement.
I would personally LOVE to see ground combat reworked or overhauled, as there is a bunch of issues, but i really don't see that happening based on comments made in the livestreams.
As such, that's why i don't ever really USE the boff commands. I've just never really had luck with them working properly. Occasionally, if one of my boffs gets stuck or i need them to stand in a specific spot to trigger a wall in a mining camp, i will hit the button but other than that, i just doesn't do anything for me. There have even been times where the boffs ignored the "hey, stand HERE!" orders and just kind of ran about like an spaz.
As for the pause button, i'd played around with it when the game first started, but not really since then. The RTS use of it is actually a great idea, though, and would be a cool feature to follow up on. It's just a shame that "Shooter mode" didn't get more love to make that more worth while.
If you think Lunge is bad try making a schi support character, it's a coin toss if they'll use their abilities at all if put on "active" stance and in passive they won't do anything. We really need a "support" stance in ground combat, actually we probably need a ground up (excuse the pun) rebuild of the NPC AI.
you mean this one?
Wish Consoles had that Option.
Nope.
The button in the red circle has no effect on the bridge officer abilities in the green circle, which must be disabled by right clicking each ability individually. (They can still be manually activated when the player left clicks them.)
Disabling these abilities allows your bridge officers to fire their weapons uninterrupted.
As I said before, a "Master Switch" would be fantastic!
(I really hope that image uploads.)
I did notice, while messin around, my vanguard boffs. I set the tac one as melee and science range. I noticed the tac one wouldn’t do much but the science one would run into melee range all the time. I just switched them and now they do what I want.