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"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I would be shocked if it was. Promo pack is most likely, lock box at the very least.
It grimes my gears that ships people want is often behind gamble walls, sure you can wait for them to be available in the event campaign but still annoying.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
What does promo pack mean? How can we get hold of it?
Obtained during a limited time event in which special 'Infinity Promotion' R&D & Duty Officer packs are sold in the C-Store, that offer a very small chance of winning a T6 Promotional Ship Choice Pack.
i prefer it was a c store ship but as many said it probably be a promo ship or lock box ship or some sort of pack that costs 200 us dollars to buy it. guess part of my message was wrong so i apologies for that. just i am tired of all the nice ships being put behind a wall like lock box or promo ships or expensive packs.the constitution class has always been my fav class ship.my Klingon fly's mirror warship.
Hopefully, the Shangri-La class skin will be included as well
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,673Community Moderator
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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I am actually fine with it being promo.
I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
I am actually fine with it being promo.
I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
Let's just agree to disagree on that, I'm not a fan of putting things behind gamble box mechanics and the Neo-Connie being a C-Store ship would be a far better option for those of us who want to buy the ship.
I'd put the Neo Connie in the C-Store so that ship is available on all characters on account instead of on just one character.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I am actually fine with it being promo.
I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
Let's just agree to disagree on that, I'm not a fan of putting things behind gamble box mechanics and the Neo-Connie being a C-Store ship would be a far better option for those of us who want to buy the ship.
I'd put the Neo Connie in the C-Store so that ship is available on all characters on account instead of on just one character.
Gamble box ships go Cstore eventually.
Anyway I wouldn't get hopes up to high. Odds of it being a promo box ship I would say are at least 50 to 1. lol
The small chance its not in a promo selection box.... could perhaps be that it is in some form of legendary pack that will probably include 2-3 other ships and cost as much as a Mudd bundle anyway. I could see them doing a Picard legendary bundle... NeoCon, Shrike + filler or another ship to ensure it gets a mudd bundle price of 14,750 zen on sale. (and can't be purchased on its own or with a coupon).
EDIT. Now that I think about it perhaps that is a decent solution. Remove the old picard bundle from the store. Make a new picard bundle with the Neo Con, Shrike, Miradord and the Galaxy museum edition with some La Forge "special modifications /solo voice". And an account unlock for the tommy gun, and the Picard S3 uniforms. This solves the Picard bundle value issues, means cryptic doesn't have to sell the NeoCon at standard price... and they could also give the Neo Con and Shrike decent gamble box level stats.
Personally, I just hope that the Devs remember that the Neo-Constitution is a Science Ship and not a Cruiser. That was the whole reason that Shaw didn't want to go into combat with it.
I am actually fine with it being promo.
I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
On paper, perhaps. It took me a LOOOOOOOONG time to collect the billion plus to get the Cerritos.
Personally, seeing these ships sell for a billion or more is SILLY...I even see LOCKBOX ships going for that, in addition to promo ones. I mean....seriously?
Personally, I just hope that the Devs remember that the Neo-Constitution is a Science Ship and not a Cruiser. That was the whole reason that Shaw didn't want to go into combat with it.
I hope they don't. Or at worst, a Science Vanguard. I really want that ship, but I flat-out don't have fun with Science ships. I'll be very disappointed if this ship is Sci-focused.
Personally, I just hope that the Devs remember that the Neo-Constitution is a Science Ship and not a Cruiser. That was the whole reason that Shaw didn't want to go into combat with it.
Hard disagree here. Sci simply isn't viable these days outside extremely specialized builds.
The game really could use more science vanguards, but from what they showed in PIC I am not sure it would be a good fit unless they upgraded it somehow during its repair and rechristening (keeping the battle cloak would be good too, even though it has that weird malfunction where it comes to transporters, Geordie must have had difficulties getting it to work at all after the long saltwater bath ).
Personally I would prefer if they put some good science vanguards in the c-store, but so far they seem to be all in promo or lockboxes the way this ugly duckling neo connie will almost certainly be.
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,673Community Moderator
Personally, seeing these ships sell for a billion or more is SILLY...I even see LOCKBOX ships going for that, in addition to promo ones. I mean....seriously?
Drives me nuts too. Used to be you could easily save up the ECs without turning STO into a full time job to get a lockbox ship. ESPECIALLY one of the new ones. Nowadays... you're more likely to get a Vengeance for a reasonable price than most lockbox ships. And with how desirable the Vengeance is that's saying something.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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As nice a ship that the Ent-G is (aside from those god-awful nacelles), I thought it was portrayed as somewhat weak in the show. That being said, though, it will be nice to see it added.
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I am actually fine with it being promo.
I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
Let's just agree to disagree on that, I'm not a fan of putting things behind gamble box mechanics and the Neo-Connie being a C-Store ship would be a far better option for those of us who want to buy the ship.
I'd put the Neo Connie in the C-Store so that ship is available on all characters on account instead of on just one character.
Gamble box ships go Cstore eventually.
Anyway I wouldn't get hopes up to high. Odds of it being a promo box ship I would say are at least 50 to 1. lol
The small chance its not in a promo selection box.... could perhaps be that it is in some form of legendary pack that will probably include 2-3 other ships and cost as much as a Mudd bundle anyway. I could see them doing a Picard legendary bundle... NeoCon, Shrike + filler or another ship to ensure it gets a mudd bundle price of 14,750 zen on sale. (and can't be purchased on its own or with a coupon).
EDIT. Now that I think about it perhaps that is a decent solution. Remove the old picard bundle from the store. Make a new picard bundle with the Neo Con, Shrike, Miradord and the Galaxy museum edition with some La Forge "special modifications /solo voice". And an account unlock for the tommy gun, and the Picard S3 uniforms. This solves the Picard bundle value issues, means cryptic doesn't have to sell the NeoCon at standard price... and they could also give the Neo Con and Shrike decent gamble box level stats.
Like I said earlier, let's just agree to disagree on that.
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,673Community Moderator
As nice a ship that the Ent-G is (aside from those god-awful nacelles), I thought it was portrayed as somewhat weak in the show. That being said, though, it will be nice to see it added.
Well... I think the reason she was seen as weak was because she was outgunned for the most part by the Shrike, not to mention that portal gun. I have no doubt in a normal stand up fight she'd pack a punch like any other Federation starship. But when you got things like that portal gun... it does skew the odds in favor of the unconventional aggressor.
I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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She's tankier than she looks, she managed to withstand heavy fire and it took a lot
"The meaning of victory is not to merely defeat your enemy but to destroy him, to completely eradicate him from living memory, to leave no remnant of his endeavours, to crush utterly his achievement and remove from all record his every trace of existence. From that defeat no enemy can ever recover. That is the meaning of victory."
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I hope they don't. Or at worst, a Science Vanguard. I really want that ship, but I flat-out don't have fun with Science ships. I'll be very disappointed if this ship is Sci-focused.
We all have our preferences. I personally feel that way about Cruisers. So, I can relate to your feelings.
(What are you even supposed to do with seven Engineering Seats? Seriously. I honestly don't know.)
Hard disagree here. Sci simply isn't viable these days outside extremely specialized builds.
Extreme Builds are not required. Specialized, yes. That is true for just about anything if you want ungodly DPS. Mine switches between Heavy Sci and Torpedo Boat with the change of about three Traits (another two if I going with a rapid-fire Tricobalt ship) and a few Consoles. Synergy is the name of the game, my friend!
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Indeed they stated in the most recent Ten Forward stream that the Neo-Connie was being worked on though they couldn't give a release date.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
I would be shocked if it was. Promo pack is most likely, lock box at the very least.
It grimes my gears that ships people want is often behind gamble walls, sure you can wait for them to be available in the event campaign but still annoying.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Obtained during a limited time event in which special 'Infinity Promotion' R&D & Duty Officer packs are sold in the C-Store, that offer a very small chance of winning a T6 Promotional Ship Choice Pack.
More info on that here...
https://stowiki.net/wiki/Special_Requisition_Choice_Pack_-_Tier_6_Promotional_Ship_Choice_Pack
To make it simple: Be ready to sacrifice a goat, or a virgin in hopes of winning one, if that is the case.
(Flaming, trolling comments moderated out. - BMR)
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
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I don't really wanna see the entire game flying the same ship. ::P
Also lets be honest if they make Zen store it will be extremely undesirable from a game stat point of view. At least as a promo it will more likely be top tier and worth running a fully min maxed setup on.
If you want one and your not already space rich. My suggestion right now is figure out how to make EC in the game. (It is not hard). You don't have to exchange PvP to get rich... that might be the only way to get ultra space rich. But to collect 1.5b or so to grab a promo ship when it launches is achievable just doing game things. Figure out what pays, or what you can collect that sells. I mean tour the universe is boring as heck... but you probably have 5 or 6 months before a neo con drops. You could also figure out how to farm consumables like contrband. Heck even just running a quick patrol on each of your toons once a day and selling off the junk is a legit way to make plenty of EC. Start your grinding now and save.
Let's just agree to disagree on that, I'm not a fan of putting things behind gamble box mechanics and the Neo-Connie being a C-Store ship would be a far better option for those of us who want to buy the ship.
I'd put the Neo Connie in the C-Store so that ship is available on all characters on account instead of on just one character.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Gamble box ships go Cstore eventually.
Anyway I wouldn't get hopes up to high. Odds of it being a promo box ship I would say are at least 50 to 1. lol
The small chance its not in a promo selection box.... could perhaps be that it is in some form of legendary pack that will probably include 2-3 other ships and cost as much as a Mudd bundle anyway. I could see them doing a Picard legendary bundle... NeoCon, Shrike + filler or another ship to ensure it gets a mudd bundle price of 14,750 zen on sale. (and can't be purchased on its own or with a coupon).
EDIT. Now that I think about it perhaps that is a decent solution. Remove the old picard bundle from the store. Make a new picard bundle with the Neo Con, Shrike, Miradord and the Galaxy museum edition with some La Forge "special modifications /solo voice". And an account unlock for the tommy gun, and the Picard S3 uniforms. This solves the Picard bundle value issues, means cryptic doesn't have to sell the NeoCon at standard price... and they could also give the Neo Con and Shrike decent gamble box level stats.
On paper, perhaps. It took me a LOOOOOOOONG time to collect the billion plus to get the Cerritos.
Personally, seeing these ships sell for a billion or more is SILLY...I even see LOCKBOX ships going for that, in addition to promo ones. I mean....seriously?
I hope they don't. Or at worst, a Science Vanguard. I really want that ship, but I flat-out don't have fun with Science ships. I'll be very disappointed if this ship is Sci-focused.
Hard disagree here. Sci simply isn't viable these days outside extremely specialized builds.
Personally I would prefer if they put some good science vanguards in the c-store, but so far they seem to be all in promo or lockboxes the way this ugly duckling neo connie will almost certainly be.
Drives me nuts too. Used to be you could easily save up the ECs without turning STO into a full time job to get a lockbox ship. ESPECIALLY one of the new ones. Nowadays... you're more likely to get a Vengeance for a reasonable price than most lockbox ships. And with how desirable the Vengeance is that's saying something.
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Like I said earlier, let's just agree to disagree on that.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Well... I think the reason she was seen as weak was because she was outgunned for the most part by the Shrike, not to mention that portal gun. I have no doubt in a normal stand up fight she'd pack a punch like any other Federation starship. But when you got things like that portal gun... it does skew the odds in favor of the unconventional aggressor.
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-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
We all have our preferences. I personally feel that way about Cruisers. So, I can relate to your feelings.
(What are you even supposed to do with seven Engineering Seats? Seriously. I honestly don't know.)
Extreme Builds are not required. Specialized, yes. That is true for just about anything if you want ungodly DPS. Mine switches between Heavy Sci and Torpedo Boat with the change of about three Traits (another two if I going with a rapid-fire Tricobalt ship) and a few Consoles. Synergy is the name of the game, my friend!