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colonelmarik
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You know, as I play these days, more and more I find myself missing the old days of the game.
I miss going to planets and beaming down, just walking about collecting data samples (I miss seeing my CREW, actually).
I miss having other players just turn up when I'm doing a patrol mission. For that matter, I miss patrol missions. Yes, I know there's a few out there now, but they're so specific (and mired in Discovery era nonsense). Old patrol missions seemed more generic, somehow.
I miss the exploration system, limited as it was.
I miss the Foundry, limited as it was.
I miss when there was a semblance of game balance.
I miss seeing Starfleet ships... these days everything is some alien, usually enemy vessel, 20 times larger than normal ships, etc.
I even miss the old, original UI.
Not sour grapes, here... just feeling somewhat bereft.
I miss going to planets and beaming down, just walking about collecting data samples (I miss seeing my CREW, actually).
I miss having other players just turn up when I'm doing a patrol mission. For that matter, I miss patrol missions. Yes, I know there's a few out there now, but they're so specific (and mired in Discovery era nonsense). Old patrol missions seemed more generic, somehow.
I miss the exploration system, limited as it was.
I miss the Foundry, limited as it was.
I miss when there was a semblance of game balance.
I miss seeing Starfleet ships... these days everything is some alien, usually enemy vessel, 20 times larger than normal ships, etc.
I even miss the old, original UI.
Not sour grapes, here... just feeling somewhat bereft.
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*sigh* These days we can be happy if we can play our own character on a new mission release. I came to utterly despise these "Now let me tell you how it went... (fade out load map with NPC rando/ship to play)". My little act of defiance became to lean back, cross my arms an say "Ok, tell me a$%&$&; and make it quick because I have things to do with MY char". Followed by hateplaying it as fast as possible and probably missing stoy parts for skipping.
I miss not being to play the removed episodes of the 2409 Fed Arc and the long-form STF's.
Being able to queue up for Shuttle Fleet Alert, and join 19 other players in swarming capital ships with shuttles. It was chaotic fun that I enjoyed with a side of Star Fox music. I hardly have a reason to pull out my old Aeon shuttle anymore.
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Same here.
Things just aren't the same anymore. People talk noticably less, also in PUGged TFO's.
And yes, the random pieces of content like the exploration clusters, old Borg deep space encounters and the Foundry are missed too.
Now almost all content takes the shape of clearly delineated instances with a set duration.
Ah, those warm fuzzy feels....nah...that's just the bulkheads being vaporised
I lament that, as someone that only started playing this game in the summer of 2019, I never got to witness or experience this "Foundry" that y'all speak of.
I did enjoy a couple Foundry missions myself. Especially those that gave a faction access to an enemy group that faction normally doesn't encounter, like back then there was really no way for the Federation to encounter the Fek'lhri.
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I never participated in that but it sounds like a blast. they should bring it back as a filler like the red alert
I now have to ask which stage theme and from which version of Star Fox?
Many missions in the Foundry were just quick EC farm missions. Those probably wouldn't be played anymore today since you can get just as much loot and EC from a single patrol. You didn't miss anything there.
There were also many well-thought out missions though, with unique species, player-created cities and environments etc. Some players even had their own arcs consisting of something like 5 or 6 episodes, each of which could keep you occupied for just as long as a regular featured episode.
I *think* though, that it is possible to take a team with shuttles set as their active ship into a pre-made 'regular' fleet alert? It'd be more difficult with 5 players compared to 20.
But then again, it's an old map with only 'simple' enemies like Nausicaans, Gorn and Borg (i.e., no enemies who use all sorts of tricks like Tzenkethi or Terrans with feedback pulses etc.) Players with some decent gear could probably enjoy themselves there.
An Arranged version of Corneria from the SNES game.
It was. Yea it was the same Fleet Alert, just as a 20 man shuttle rather than 5 man. And it was probably one of the few 20 man queues that were likely to pop. Was fun as hell just swarming things like Borg Cubes. And while they're not T6 ships with consoles it was fun to see what people slapped on their shuttles to cause chaos.
And honestly there's still quite a few shuttle type craft that they could add to the game.
And that's just off the top of my head.
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Oh my Godzilla! I have that song! Double respect!
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Me too. The Vault isn't much fun but it's about all we have left for our shuttles these days
The exploration missions were OK when they didn't glitch out and waste 15 minutes of your time, but a few modern ground Patrols could easily replace them without being any more repetitive.
There's a LOT about 2012 that I don't miss at all - crafting was awful and required 10 minutes of travel to get to the one place you could craft, plus the resulting gear was non-upgradeable. No transwarps to missions. No full KDF faction, no Romulans, no TOS, no Jem'Hadar, no Discovery. Event ships and gear were per-character unlocks. Want a Winter ship? 25 ice races per character, and when you created that Romulan in a later year they got zero of those ships and gear. Rep gear was an RNG horror show. All gear except common was character bind on equip. Bridge officer training was much harder - no crafting of Beam Overload III or BFAW III just from having enough tac points in your skill tree.
When people say they want to go back to the good old days, many of them mean "...while keeping the last decade's worth of QoL improvements."
I miss seeing the occasional KDF player being respawned on ESD and being instantly attacked and killed by all the NPCs (Of course they sometimes took a few of those NPCs with them; and it was a pain when said NPCs DIDN'T respawn.)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
As nice as it was when the walls fell, so much regional personality was lost.. and the sense of desolation was only compounded by 'Transwarp: Everywhere' becoming a thing. We don't even really have npc traffic(merchants, patrol fleets, etc.) between systems or the like to help fill the gap.
I feel a bit sad that newer players will never know that indescribable sense of.. navigational familiarity.. when transferring through the crossroads that was the Regulus Sector, as an example.
It's true, that was all nice when you didn't mind spending 10 minutes just to get to the next story episode.
I remember in 2014 being annoyed by some of the back and forth fetch quests -- wasn't there someone at Alpha who sent you far away, then you came back, then they sent you out again? So. many. map. transitions.
I also miss some of the old missions, anyone remember the tribble mission?
It was a nice nod to Trouble with Tribbles.
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I liked the old ESD too. The current one is too bright, too open and it feels too much like you're running through a giant shopping mall.
Sometimes I go to SB 39 just to enjoy the cozier, dim environment that old ESD was.
It wasn't so much about the 'best' ship - for me it was a great experience to finally fly a real big ship once you were done levelling. Unlocking a new ship was a very joyful experience.
Of course, all those free ships are all tiny now and you can get a T6 as soon as you're level 2 anyway.