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Holographic Marshall Janeway Bridge Officer! Am I missing the point?

totenmettotenmet Member Posts: 592 Arc User
So I got the BOFF. But it seems not really useful neither for space as ground. Because many other Boffs are better.

What am I missing? Who can tell me if I am right or wrong (and why)?
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,803 Arc User
    She's special. That's probably the only reason why those interested in her, want her.

    Few Boff species are really good, but still some want to have Andorians or Vulcans as their bridge crew. So basically role play reasons and immersion.

    And FOMO, perhaps.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    garaffegaraffe Member Posts: 1,353 Arc User
    She looks useless as an actual Boff, but desirable because she is MU and has the likeness of the captain from a series.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,035 Community Moderator
    She's probably situational as well. She does have the ability to make combat pets, and she may very well have one of the highest Psionic Damage resistances in the game. Not a MUST have, but a NICE TO have account unlock opion.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    truewarpertruewarper Member Posts: 928 Arc User
    In Storage she is...
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,513 Arc User
    I just got one but cannot unpack it on my level 36 Fed captain because it says "you are not a high enough rank to use that". Since when does a VR boff (or any other boff for that matter) have a level requirement???
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,035 Community Moderator
    That... is odd...
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,035 Community Moderator
    Undine and Devidians seem to deal a lot of Psionic, and some higher end Remans.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,519 Arc User
    edited April 2022
    The point:

    Space Barbie is the real endgame.

    If you're min-maxing then you won't use her. If you're playing the real endgame ;) and she fits the theme of one of your characters then you will.
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    thewolfsterthewolfster Member Posts: 75 Arc User
    Superior Creativity and Superior Photonic Lifeform make her pretty much top of the tree as a science officer for ground map DPS. Obviously your captain will do vastly more damage but as bridge officers go there really aren't better traits. She will be able to solo missions for you, basically, with a few good science AoEs.

    Her assimilation gimmick is bugged to hell and basically doesn't work.
    I had her solo the bar brawl on Nimbus and she managed to trigger two assimilation pets. It's clearly bugged to the point of not being worth having.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,035 Community Moderator
    edited April 2022
    I doubt they want it to trigger very often because that would be kinda OP to be able to assimilate an entire army. If it triggered on every kill, the map would be full of combat pets. And that's just on a single player mission. Imagine someplace like Nimbus or the Voth Battlezone if everyone brought Janeways to assimilate the whole map!

    If it doesn't have a proc rate, it may have an internal cooldown, like the active clicky Nerve Pinch and Pounce, to avoid spammage.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    darthoricidarthorici Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    Draw back is low level captains can't clame her.
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    jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,790 Arc User
    She can turn dead ground enemies into temporary Borgified combat pets. If you like ground spam, then there's a practical use. Especially in ground situations where you are stuck up against wave after wave after wave after wave after wave of enemies.
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    paddy#3322 paddy Member Posts: 203 Arc User
    I've run Janeway as part of my team multiple times during Dyson Sphere runs and see very few drones. With that being said she's still useful and at least it's something different, plus it was free.
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    phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,513 Arc User
    paddy#3322 wrote: »
    I've run Janeway as part of my team multiple times during Dyson Sphere runs and see very few drones. With that being said she's still useful and at least it's something different, plus it was free.

    If you still have a place to put her by level 65 when you can actually claim her, the borg zombie thing actually does work within its limits. In the Gorn valley with her in my away team I always had a few zombie lizards running around after combat started. Dyson would not be the best place to test it though since it does not work on anything with any kind of cyborg systems or on machines and Voth use cyborgs (and of course the flying squids are machines).
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,803 Arc User
    I just got one but cannot unpack it on my level 36 Fed captain because it says "you are not a high enough rank to use that". Since when does a VR boff (or any other boff for that matter) have a level requirement???

    They've done this with some other event rewards too.

    The Bajoren warp core for example cannot be claimed at lower levels anymore either.

    On the one hand I can understand that they don't want low level toons to get all sorts of gear so easy. On the other hand: we earned the stuff, it should be usable when it's the most useful to us.
    Most of these items are much more valuable on lower level toons precisely because players usually don't have many options yet then.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,803 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    I doubt they want it to trigger very often because that would be kinda OP to be able to assimilate an entire army. If it triggered on every kill, the map would be full of combat pets. And that's just on a single player mission. Imagine someplace like Nimbus or the Voth Battlezone if everyone brought Janeways to assimilate the whole map!

    If it doesn't have a proc rate, it may have an internal cooldown, like the active clicky Nerve Pinch and Pounce, to avoid spammage.

    Probably.

    Though it's a bit weird that they're suddenly concerned about this, after having increased the amount of spam on the ground for a long time now. They just released a kit module that allows you to get 4 extra security guards. And even more if you give a copy of that power to your boffs.

    Players can already call in/create a (not so) small army. Four or five pets through personal devices, the assimilate kit module, security escorts, freelance security detachments, Schroeder. And many different drones besides all that.


    I wouldn't oppose limiting the number of allies a player can have at any moment. But somehow I doubt that limiting ally creation-spam is a priority for them so I'm not sure that that's the reason why MJ's trait has been made not to trigger too often.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 58,035 Community Moderator
    Well... don't forget we do have a player based assimilation ability as well via kit module. So it could be based on that partially.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,803 Arc User
    I... I just mentioned that one.

    And that one always works, so...
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    darthoricidarthorici Member Posts: 187 Arc User
    Why is she not clamable on low level captains?
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