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https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11504233-mudd's-secret-intel-bundle!

Honestly its getting a bit much with the ship sales. I wished they would put half the effort in fixing the game...
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,836 Arc User
    Another one of those 'amazing deals' for 600€ pig-2.gif​​
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,534 Arc User
    Nothing of interest to me, personally, in this bundle. And I will say, I find the fact they put Phoenix tokens in them as an option a touch offensive, since it's all but impossible to put an actual monetary value on them.
  • naabal421#0722 naabal421 Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    since it's all but impossible to put an actual monetary value on them.
    Not really. You could, if you had the data, take the average amount of dil spent on phoenix boxes to get an epic token, then run that through the dilex, to get a price on it.

    Besides that, not really interested in this bundle, just like I haven't been for any of them. They are cheaper then trying to pull these ships from lockboxes/R&D packs, but still too pricey for me.
  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,258 Arc User
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 3,302 Arc User
    No, it's the same, because they copied the text from the bundle that included the Jellyfish. ;)
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,072 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.
  • doctorstegidoctorstegi Member Posts: 949 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.

    Glad that I already have the torp boats I need. So I don't need any of these ships anymore. I think I still got like 20 ceaseless momentums or so....

    I'm getting tired of the constant ship releases though. They think they can milk the christmas cow big time this year but don't really understand what's going on in the real world. I have no problem with them making money but boy those ship sales are like almost every week a new ship or two. But yet fixing certain things in the game seems with their budget and time not possible.


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  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,181 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.

    Glad that I already have the torp boats I need. So I don't need any of these ships anymore. I think I still got like 20 ceaseless momentums or so....

    I'm getting tired of the constant ship releases though. They think they can milk the christmas cow big time this year but don't really understand what's going on in the real world. I have no problem with them making money but boy those ship sales are like almost every week a new ship or two. But yet fixing certain things in the game seems with their budget and time not possible.


    Complete their quarters cuotas?, it's the end of the year and they mus have better profits than last year, thats how PVE works, from what i understand. Also they have to recoup the loss of Magic.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.

    As am i. Some of those traits are benchmarks for torpedo builds.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • corinthalascorinthalas Member Posts: 2,072 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.

    Glad that I already have the torp boats I need. So I don't need any of these ships anymore. I think I still got like 20 ceaseless momentums or so....

    I'm getting tired of the constant ship releases though. They think they can milk the christmas cow big time this year but don't really understand what's going on in the real world. I have no problem with them making money but boy those ship sales are like almost every week a new ship or two. But yet fixing certain things in the game seems with their budget and time not possible.


    Not about need. This is a game. Nobody 'needs' anything. I like being able to change up how a captain I want to play can be played, on a whim, instead of being built to a specific ship and playstyle because of one-off unlocks. This bundle makes it possible for all of my captains to be decently effective torp-boat captains should I so choose.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 3,302 Arc User
    I don't know about all of the traits, but the S31's trait doesn't do much for a torpedo build, right?

    And the Son'a ship's trait can be usable on a torpedo ship, but only that. Usable. Not very interesting, imo. Those rifts only work with High Yield and they move only slowly while their damage is far from impressive, in my experience.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    I don't know about all of the traits, but the S31's trait doesn't do much for a torpedo build, right?

    And the Son'a ship's trait can be usable on a torpedo ship, but only that. Usable. Not very interesting, imo. Those rifts only work with High Yield and they move only slowly while their damage is far from impressive, in my experience.

    That's the exception to the rule.
    From memory subspatial warheads and ceaseless momentum are located on two of the other ships with torpedo barrage being the 3rd one.

    With the discount it comes down to 100-150 euro for this pack. Not convinced that it is worth it, but for options on torpedo builds it is a tempting bundle.

    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 3,302 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    I don't know about all of the traits, but the S31's trait doesn't do much for a torpedo build, right?

    And the Son'a ship's trait can be usable on a torpedo ship, but only that. Usable. Not very interesting, imo. Those rifts only work with High Yield and they move only slowly while their damage is far from impressive, in my experience.

    That's the exception to the rule.
    From memory subspatial warheads and ceaseless momentum are located on two of the other ships with torpedo barrage being the 3rd one.

    With the discount it comes down to 100-150 euro for this pack. Not convinced that it is worth it, but for options on torpedo builds it is a tempting bundle.

    Ceaseless momentum can be obtained from packs on the Exchange too though.

    I'm sure there's something interesting in it, I'm not particularly impressed though.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    The X-Upgrades had been given out like candy in the past.

    The keys are only worth a few lobi unless you win something valuable & T5 ships & below aren't worth much nowadays.

    The Phoenix token prize list of ships haven't been expanded in years I think.

    Are these Gold Tech Upgrades the Ultimate Upgrades? If so I do see some value in those if not then no.

    The ships are subjective value based upon how each of us wants to play our accounts. It's good that these are account-wide.

    I already have 2 of these 4 ships & prefer not to buy something twice so I'll be passing but I do see the possible enticement for others.

    These Mudd's must either be selling extremely well or not well at all since Cryptic is selling new Mudd's every other week now.
  • aftulusaftulus Member Posts: 668 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    husanakx wrote: »
    Well I guess the last one was a bust.

    For anyone that thinks they don't know exactly how their game works though... this is the torpedo boat meta pack. lol Guess they aren't that out of touch after all are they.

    I was just checking on that, and yup, torp-boat trait bundle. And I'll admit...I'm tempted.

    Glad that I already have the torp boats I need. So I don't need any of these ships anymore. I think I still got like 20 ceaseless momentums or so....

    I'm getting tired of the constant ship releases though. They think they can milk the christmas cow big time this year but don't really understand what's going on in the real world. I have no problem with them making money but boy those ship sales are like almost every week a new ship or two. But yet fixing certain things in the game seems with their budget and time not possible.


    Can't milk what people don't have. Dil to zen transactions. I guess this is their evil plot to force more money to zen transactions... 8(...

    They figured out if the dil/zen doesn't exist it's still claimed to be farmable even if it's not. And it pressures more people to spend money. I'm guessing they will never stop doing this as it's making them money. Every actions they have taken in this holiday season has made the proble worse except for some minor actions...

    I really wanted to get this too. Guess I never will unless they release it later again.(If I'm lucky.)

    And yea, this is the torpedo boat central. I have all torpedo boats. It's everything I could ever get in 3 ships. All but the S31..

    If only I could get that dil turned into zen in time. 8\

    I believe we are at 2 weeks to get an order in.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 36,961 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    Didn't they just release a Mudd's bundle last month? These are only supposed to be coming out once every 3-4 months.

    At least this is more valuable a bundle than the command one was...ADG will be happy with this, because he's primarily a torp-boat flyer.​​
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  • naabal421#0722 naabal421 Member Posts: 162 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    Didn't they just release a Mudd's bundle last month? These are only supposed to be coming out once every 3-4 months.
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  • tmassxtmassx Member Posts: 811 Arc User
    DPS torpedo traits bundle.
  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,258 Arc User
    questerius wrote: »
    I don't know about all of the traits, but the S31's trait doesn't do much for a torpedo build, right?

    And the Son'a ship's trait can be usable on a torpedo ship, but only that. Usable. Not very interesting, imo. Those rifts only work with High Yield and they move only slowly while their damage is far from impressive, in my experience.

    That's the exception to the rule.
    From memory subspatial warheads and ceaseless momentum are located on two of the other ships with torpedo barrage being the 3rd one.

    With the discount it comes down to 100-150 euro for this pack. Not convinced that it is worth it, but for options on torpedo builds it is a tempting bundle.

    Ceaseless momentum can be obtained from packs on the Exchange too though.

    I'm sure there's something interesting in it, I'm not particularly impressed though.

    Only for Federation and Fed aligned. For KDF this trait is full bore ship price always has been.
  • husanakxhusanakx Member Posts: 1,258 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    Two mudd bundles with in weeks though... expected holiday sales.

    Dil Ex is going to hit 4b backlogged likely with in a day or two. So much for Cryptics words about wanting to ease that situation. Clearly they would prefer it to hit a 6b/1 month backlog. Obvious what they want.

    I do spend money on this game... but supplement with some Dil sales to other players. With the current state it might just be a good time to take a 5 or 6 month break.
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 4,643 Arc User
    https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11504233-mudd's-secret-intel-bundle!

    Honestly its getting a bit much with the ship sales. I wished they would put half the effort in fixing the game...

    Honestly, I'm not going to begrudge them doing this. No money = No content, nevermind fixing, and on that note, building a ship has nothing to do with their bug fixing. An 'environmental' artist won't be able to sort out bugged code.
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  • joshmauljoshmaul Member Posts: 518 Arc User
    Hmm.... cleave ship to complete my Klingon fleet for Christmas...
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  • discojer2#5455 discojer2 Member Posts: 40 Arc User
    I have to say (from reading multiple comments) that if people seriously expect to buy $150 bundles from dilithium farming in this game, then the economy is broken and not because of cryptic, but because dilithium farming has gotten out of hand.

    I'm not begrudging f2p players, but c'mon, buying bundles? It's a bit different than the occasional $30 ship or things like the EC cap.
  • nommo#5819 nommo Member Posts: 1,105 Arc User
    I have to say (from reading multiple comments) that if people seriously expect to buy $150 bundles from dilithium farming in this game, then the economy is broken and not because of cryptic, but because dilithium farming has gotten out of hand.

    I'm not begrudging f2p players, but c'mon, buying bundles? It's a bit different than the occasional $30 ship or things like the EC cap.

    I somewhat agree, I find it a bit ridiculous for dilithium grinding for converting to zen free-to-play players to expect to completely play & buy lots of items using that method, but I also find it equally ridiculous for Cryptic to expect regular customers/players to spend $150 a month on STO too. I enjoyed STO lots more when the majority of buying options was from the C-Store & not gambling & Cryptic's 1% big-ticket items.
  • livinlifejb90#4082 livinlifejb90 Member Posts: 218 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    i don't like that they removed old bundles to introduce this one. what is so wrong with giving players choice?

    like the bundle that offered the kelvin ships had no reason to go away. Using FOMO to manipulate consumers should be outlawed. if you can't sell your product based on its quality, merit or fair practices, then you don't deserve to make money.​​
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 3,302 Arc User
    husanakx wrote: »
    questerius wrote: »
    I don't know about all of the traits, but the S31's trait doesn't do much for a torpedo build, right?

    And the Son'a ship's trait can be usable on a torpedo ship, but only that. Usable. Not very interesting, imo. Those rifts only work with High Yield and they move only slowly while their damage is far from impressive, in my experience.

    That's the exception to the rule.
    From memory subspatial warheads and ceaseless momentum are located on two of the other ships with torpedo barrage being the 3rd one.

    With the discount it comes down to 100-150 euro for this pack. Not convinced that it is worth it, but for options on torpedo builds it is a tempting bundle.

    Ceaseless momentum can be obtained from packs on the Exchange too though.

    I'm sure there's something interesting in it, I'm not particularly impressed though.

    Only for Federation and Fed aligned. For KDF this trait is full bore ship price always has been.

    True. So if you play the right faction, you can get it from the exchange. ;):p
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,534 Arc User
    edited December 2021
    reyan01 wrote: »
    since it's all but impossible to put an actual monetary value on them.
    Not really. You could, if you had the data, take the average amount of dil spent on phoenix boxes to get an epic token, then run that through the dilex, to get a price on it.

    Besides that, not really interested in this bundle, just like I haven't been for any of them. They are cheaper then trying to pull these ships from lockboxes/R&D packs, but still too pricey for me.

    Okay - but Epic tokens are as rare as rocking-horse excrement and I suspect that's deliberate - so that they can justify putting them in these awful bundles.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 10,913 Arc User
    If you're looking at this bundle to boost your torp boat.. buy with caution.

    It's entirely possible that this will be a final cash grab before a round of nerfs to Torp Boats.

    Can't say for sure, but it's not unheard of for Cryptic to sell as much of a powerful item as possible only to nerf it once the sale is over. Buyer beware.
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  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 15,534 Arc User
    If you're looking at this bundle to boost your torp boat.. buy with caution.

    It's entirely possible that this will be a final cash grab before a round of nerfs to Torp Boats.

    Can't say for sure, but it's not unheard of for Cryptic to sell as much of a powerful item as possible only to nerf it once the sale is over. Buyer beware.

    This.

    Besides which, whilst one my my Sci chars runs a T6 Nova as a torpedo boat, that's exactly why I wouldn't buy this bundle. Yeah, the traits would be beneficial but I sure as heck am not spending £100+ on a bunch of Starship traits attached to ships I'd be unlikely to use once have their mastery!
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 7,820 Arc User
    If you're looking at this bundle to boost your torp boat.. buy with caution.

    It's entirely possible that this will be a final cash grab before a round of nerfs to Torp Boats.

    Can't say for sure, but it's not unheard of for Cryptic to sell as much of a powerful item as possible only to nerf it once the sale is over. Buyer beware.

    True.

    As for me, while i can see the appeal in this pack i also cannot see myself piloting any of these vessels.
    To acquire a pack merely for traits on a ship is not within the possibilities of my current budget.

    If this trait was available in a box instead of in mudd's place i would have gotten it ages ago:
    https://sto.fandom.com/wiki/Trait:_Subspatial_Warheads
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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