I don't know if I would call it, building. It's just a cloned map that was retextured. I definitely want playable Terrans though! PWE definitely doesn't like to waste their time on unique assets though for one-off missions and TFO's though.
I'll say again: I am not interested in playing a Terran Captain. Not as my main.
If they allowed us to play as renegade Terrans then I would make one just to see the story. It's a safe bet that they would merge with the rest of us at level 10 so it would be a quick and easy look.
If there was a Terran recruitment event and they had bonuses for everyone based upon leveling that toon, then I suppose I would get around to it in time, but it would never be a priority.
As far as CBS, well, things change. I doubt anyone would have greenlit graphic violence and cursing in Star Trek not too long ago either, but we got that. The current state of Star Trek doesn't get to pretend that it is the family-friendly franchise that it once was. I have never seen an episode of Disco or Picard, but I have seen enough clips to know this.
Anyway, if they set up the story as you being a renegade, opposing the Terran Empire from the start, then no one is really playing "space Germans", right? They may live in "space Germany", but they are not followers of the cause.
But still, I go back to my thought that the Mirror Universe should be used sparingly. I am not advocating for playable Mirror universe characters, but the possibility seems obvious.
I'll say again: I am not interested in playing a Terran Captain. Not as my main.
If they allowed us to play as renegade Terrans then I would make one just to see the story. It's a safe bet that they would merge with the rest of us at level 10 so it would be a quick and easy look.
If there was a Terran recruitment event and they had bonuses for everyone based upon leveling that toon, then I suppose I would get around to it in time, but it would never be a priority.
As far as CBS, well, things change. I doubt anyone would have greenlit graphic violence and cursing in Star Trek not too long ago either, but we got that. The current state of Star Trek doesn't get to pretend that it is the family-friendly franchise that it once was. I have never seen an episode of Disco or Picard, but I have seen enough clips to know this.
Anyway, if they set up the story as you being a renegade, opposing the Terran Empire from the start, then no one is really playing "space Germans", right? They may live in "space Germany", but they are not followers of the cause.
But still, I go back to my thought that the Mirror Universe should be used sparingly. I am not advocating for playable Mirror universe characters, but the possibility seems obvious.
still failing to see the space germans, space soviets maybe but not space germans.
I'll say again: I am not interested in playing a Terran Captain. Not as my main.
If they allowed us to play as renegade Terrans then I would make one just to see the story. It's a safe bet that they would merge with the rest of us at level 10 so it would be a quick and easy look.
If there was a Terran recruitment event and they had bonuses for everyone based upon leveling that toon, then I suppose I would get around to it in time, but it would never be a priority.
As far as CBS, well, things change. I doubt anyone would have greenlit graphic violence and cursing in Star Trek not too long ago either, but we got that. The current state of Star Trek doesn't get to pretend that it is the family-friendly franchise that it once was. I have never seen an episode of Disco or Picard, but I have seen enough clips to know this.
Anyway, if they set up the story as you being a renegade, opposing the Terran Empire from the start, then no one is really playing "space Germans", right? They may live in "space Germany", but they are not followers of the cause.
But still, I go back to my thought that the Mirror Universe should be used sparingly. I am not advocating for playable Mirror universe characters, but the possibility seems obvious.
still failing to see the space germans, space soviets maybe but not space germans.
I don't see the various depictions of the Mirror Universe being solid and consistent enough to identify it with that kind of precision. The style varies wildly, in TOS it literally was a mirror where the virtues on one side were the vices of the other and so on, with the ships and people in the same places doing more or less the same thing in each though the details were the opposite to each other.
One clue that most people seem to miss is that the TOS ISS Enterprise never got the nacelle replacement that the Federation version did (the needles were removed from, and the spheres added to the back of, the nacelles between the second pilot and the series itself) which implies that they probably found the buoy left by the previous ship to find the galactic barrier and simply didn't bother to investigate further.
Later shows made it more generic and less in step with the the normal Trek universe, ENT going so far as to almost entirely break the causal connection with the paradox created by the Tholian's grab of the future Defiant. And DSC follows the ramifications of that paradox which results in the greatest divergence of any of them.
Taken all together no single real-world authoritarian regime actually matches it, it would require blending several at least.
There's heavy Roman influence, but I'd say the Mirror Universe is just a case of all those authoritarian regimes succeeding where they failed in Prime, at least up to a point (they still likely got taken out by rivals eventually) - so Napoleon, Pol Pot, The Guy With The Moustache, Stalin, Khan, etc..
A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
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In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
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Some novels (non-canon, I realize, but... so is STO, to be fair) have Khan as Emperor at some point. The novel "The Sorrows of Empire" (which details Spock's rise to power over the Empire and its downfall to the Klingon-Cardassian Alliance) mentions a descendant being a potential replacement for Spock, implying that Khan's dynasty had ruled in the past - likely before Hoshi Sato (the book being released before Discovery, Georgiou is of course not involved at all; Hoshi was said to have ensured she would rule forever by use of clones).
There's heavy Roman influence, but I'd say the Mirror Universe is just a case of all those authoritarian regimes succeeding where they failed in Prime, at least up to a point (they still likely got taken out by rivals eventually) - so Napoleon, Pol Pot, The Guy With The Moustache, Stalin, Khan, etc..
I think the MU takes various traits from all of the worst would be empires tbh. They've got some Roman ambitions, Definitely some Stalinism, and most definitely 1930's/1940's (word I can't say) German ideals.
I think they are more an amalgamation of all of them.
I'll say again: I am not interested in playing a Terran Captain. Not as my main.
If they allowed us to play as renegade Terrans then I would make one just to see the story. It's a safe bet that they would merge with the rest of us at level 10 so it would be a quick and easy look.
If there was a Terran recruitment event and they had bonuses for everyone based upon leveling that toon, then I suppose I would get around to it in time, but it would never be a priority.
As far as CBS, well, things change. I doubt anyone would have greenlit graphic violence and cursing in Star Trek not too long ago either, but we got that. The current state of Star Trek doesn't get to pretend that it is the family-friendly franchise that it once was. I have never seen an episode of Disco or Picard, but I have seen enough clips to know this.
Anyway, if they set up the story as you being a renegade, opposing the Terran Empire from the start, then no one is really playing "space Germans", right? They may live in "space Germany", but they are not followers of the cause.
But still, I go back to my thought that the Mirror Universe should be used sparingly. I am not advocating for playable Mirror universe characters, but the possibility seems obvious.
still failing to see the space germans, space soviets maybe but not space germans.
I'm just borrowing the analogy that was used.
Not commenting upon how accurate or inaccurate I may think it is.
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people with "Terran Toons" can explain it away as a transporter duplicate, like Thomas Riker.
I don't know if I would call it, building. It's just a cloned map that was retextured. I definitely want playable Terrans though! PWE definitely doesn't like to waste their time on unique assets though for one-off missions and TFO's though.
If they allowed us to play as renegade Terrans then I would make one just to see the story. It's a safe bet that they would merge with the rest of us at level 10 so it would be a quick and easy look.
If there was a Terran recruitment event and they had bonuses for everyone based upon leveling that toon, then I suppose I would get around to it in time, but it would never be a priority.
As far as CBS, well, things change. I doubt anyone would have greenlit graphic violence and cursing in Star Trek not too long ago either, but we got that. The current state of Star Trek doesn't get to pretend that it is the family-friendly franchise that it once was. I have never seen an episode of Disco or Picard, but I have seen enough clips to know this.
Anyway, if they set up the story as you being a renegade, opposing the Terran Empire from the start, then no one is really playing "space Germans", right? They may live in "space Germany", but they are not followers of the cause.
But still, I go back to my thought that the Mirror Universe should be used sparingly. I am not advocating for playable Mirror universe characters, but the possibility seems obvious.
still failing to see the space germans, space soviets maybe but not space germans.
I don't see the various depictions of the Mirror Universe being solid and consistent enough to identify it with that kind of precision. The style varies wildly, in TOS it literally was a mirror where the virtues on one side were the vices of the other and so on, with the ships and people in the same places doing more or less the same thing in each though the details were the opposite to each other.
One clue that most people seem to miss is that the TOS ISS Enterprise never got the nacelle replacement that the Federation version did (the needles were removed from, and the spheres added to the back of, the nacelles between the second pilot and the series itself) which implies that they probably found the buoy left by the previous ship to find the galactic barrier and simply didn't bother to investigate further.
Later shows made it more generic and less in step with the the normal Trek universe, ENT going so far as to almost entirely break the causal connection with the paradox created by the Tholian's grab of the future Defiant. And DSC follows the ramifications of that paradox which results in the greatest divergence of any of them.
Taken all together no single real-world authoritarian regime actually matches it, it would require blending several at least.
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A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"
"It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
"We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
"There's No Way Like Poway!"
Real Join Date: October 2010
I think the MU takes various traits from all of the worst would be empires tbh. They've got some Roman ambitions, Definitely some Stalinism, and most definitely 1930's/1940's (word I can't say) German ideals.
I think they are more an amalgamation of all of them.
I'm just borrowing the analogy that was used.
Not commenting upon how accurate or inaccurate I may think it is.