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sennahcherib
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maybe asked already; but can we have ground patrols doable with our boffs?
For me, ground stuff with my boffs is the only part of this game where I still have a little bit of fun. TFO's are boring after being done thousand of times (most of them are dead anyway), and the space patrols are just more pew pew.
Less pew pew and more interesting things to do.
For me, ground stuff with my boffs is the only part of this game where I still have a little bit of fun. TFO's are boring after being done thousand of times (most of them are dead anyway), and the space patrols are just more pew pew.
Less pew pew and more interesting things to do.
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I can understand, because most of the current missions are just waves after waves of ennemies and don't have a real interest, but cryptic can change that.
the mission in defera (cold war episode) where we have to solve the preserver puzzle (obelisk) is interesting, for example.
Also, the First Contact Day's ground patrol that they introduced in 2020 and repeated this year seemed to be well received.
That might be because it has a sound story and beautiful voice-acting from Jeri Ryan, but also because it was well done.
I'm not fond of ground combat, either, because most of the times is clanky. That patrol is not.
More content of that quality would be welcome, I'm sure of it. Especially if they finally revamp some of the ground mechanics that are in dire need of a touch up - like melee combat, for example.
Ci sono tre tipi di giocatori:
- quelli a cui non va mai bene niente... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che sono talmente imbesuiti da credere a qualunque cosa i dev dicano, perfino che la luna è fatta di formaggio... e vanno sul forum a trollare;
- quelli che credono a quello a cui è giusto credere, sono d'accordo con quello con cui è giusto essere d'accordo e sono critici con quello che non va;
Ai giocatori dei primi due tipi, gratis in omaggio un bello specchio lucente su cui arrampicarsi. E una mazzata in testa per la loro poca intelligenza e compassione verso gli altri giocatori che non la pensano come loro.
Agli appartenenti al terzo tipo, invece, dico grazie. Anche se non sempre si riesce a mantenere la calma, siete quelli per cui vale la pena incazzarsi.
Plus, ground patrols would give us ways to finish Ground Endeavors.. bring em on.
As an example of what I mean, they could add a "ground" section to the patrols window and have assignments to complete all of the following:
*every individual mission on New Romulus
*every individual mission on Nimbus
*every individual mission on Kobali Prime
*every individual mission on Nukara
*every individual mission in the Dyson Sphere battle zone
*every individual mission in the Defera invasion zone
Each one of those individual missions could be it's own "ground patrol" mission with it's own specific rewards given at the end just like every space patrol.
And because all of that stuff already exists they only thing they would actually to create is the "wrapper missions" and new section in the patrol interface. Also, it would be nice for the game to automatically transport you to that location when you accept the mission, like it does for the space patrols.
To be clear: I'm not necessarily saying I like/want to play all of those missions, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't like the option and for them to be potential ground patrols.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
But so far we only have the First contact one, which isn't available most of the time.
Maybe they could also make missions like Starbase incursion available to single players as a patrol mission. At least then we could play that again without having to wait forever to get a team.
well, it is sad, because this game becomes more and more just a shooter than a star trek game. And there are already a lot of space shooter games.
I like all the missions that you listed, but I hate "kurland here"
In my opinion, a star trek game should have a huge part of its content dedicated to ground like what we can see in the tv shows. the space content is so boring; like I said in an other thread if you click on random you have 90% chance of getting a borg tfo, after a moment I just can't do them, i'm disgusted. this is why a ground content could be interesting, but with less fights and more use of our brains.
I don't ask for Myst like contents (I was a huge fan of these games), just some more interesting things than pew pew and kill everything.
I like also to visit Nimbus, I also like to watch my boffs doing the stuff for me, and i must say that it is really funny. the devs have programmed some interesting behaviours for the boffs, not enough saluted.
I regularly go to Nukara and Dyson do some ground action. I also like a lot of ground TFO’s. Miner Instabilities is one of my favorite TFO’s in the game.
Tastes really do vary. The missions with the preserver puzzle along with the rest of the Breen Invasion (Cold War) story arc remain some of my personal all time favorites in the game.
- test new gear and builds that includes our boffs, unlike a ground TFO.
- work on ground damage and healing endeavors more quickly than TFOs allow.
- jump right into ground combat without a bunch of map changes, story dialog, space bits like we must do for most story episodes.
- skip all the map changes needed to get to the Ground Adventure Zones and Nimbus.
Fair enough... the Breen Invasion might be the worst arc in the game design wise, needs a total razing, and the gameplay is miserable (all in your opinion). However, it remains one of my all time favorites. I hope they leave it alone.
Thank you for using IMO in your response as there's no doubt about it... tastes really do vary
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Yes, the "endless waves on hidden timer" mechanic is OK for a patrol where you are playing for ship mastery XP, and it's OK (I guess) for some TFOs, but I'm not fond of it in story episodes. I'd rather have a high but limited number of enemies where if you play well enough you can finish early.
what about the doff missions and the admiralty, aren't they passive activities?
a puzzle can be random, to avoid the boredom, but it was just an example, i don't want puzzles in a patrol, just something a little bit similar, to open a door or something like that nothing more.
I agree. A lot of things removed from the game or put aside were very good, even some missions were funny like the one with the tribble and the klingons (forgotten its name).
And the game was more challenging in 2013 when i started to play at sto. the exploration content was very difficult, I feared to fight the klinks, now all the ennemies are just punching balls, the power creep is so huge that the game has lost a little bit of its flavor.
Short patrols, challenging and with some random stuff to do ("puzzles or something else") could be very interesting.
why, not for example a real mission to grab the famous contrabands so loved by the dil farmers? and the puzzles could be to find the good lock combination to open crates.
you are just playing on words.
Actually, he is not playing on words. When we send our DOFFS and/or ships on DOFF assignments or Admirality assignments, they are doing the work not us and we get a report back. We might be "actively" sending them to such and such place but all we really are doing is getting and/or enjoying the fruit of their labor once they complete their missions. These missions are like those in SWTOR which you can send your companions on if you so choose for resources, items, and other things except in STO it is resources, items, energy credits, dilithium, etc.
To me the most Trek feeling mission arc is Spectres, it has a definite second season TOS feel to it (though of course it is set in the gap between the series and TMP date wise). The puzzles in the arc actually add to it rather than detract from it like some of the others since they actually fit the situation instead of sticking out like a random mini phone game in the middle of an MMORPG that has little or nothing to do with the plot.
Ground combat is very clunky compared to space, which is probably why it is not popular. I hoped that nanopulse disruptor staff and J'Ula's mekleths signaled an end to that bad melee system and that they would put the lunges into all the new melee weapons (and retrofit it into older weapons) but Aakar's set is practically useless because it lacks those (which is a shame since the armor and shield are good, and the weapons are some of the best looking).
Ranged ground is a little better but still a bit clunky and stiff.
Still, I would like to see a few ground patrols too, if they are interesting and not just bare king-of-the-hill things against a timer.