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Romulans always getting the shaft.
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It sucks that Romulans always get the shaft, they usually have their spotlight stolen by other races, they were originally meant to be the villains in Star Trek III: The Search for Spock but got switched for Klingons, The Romulans were originally to have filled the conspiratorial role that the Son'a play in Star Trek: Insurrection and in the original story of "Ensign Ro", it was the Romulans who were occupying Bajor, but Rick Berman felt the Romulans had been seen too much and, remembering "The Wounded", had the occupiers changed to the Cardassians, the Romulans people didn't deserve these Injustices.
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https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Star_Trek_III:_The_Search_for_Spock
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The Romulans were originally to have filled the conspiratorial role that the Son'a play in Star Trek: Insurrection. According to writer Michael Piller in his unpublished reference book Fade In: From Idea to Final Draft, the idea of using the Romulans as major villains in the film was inspired by the fact that the species had been a long-standing enemy of the Federation but had never been featured in a Star Trek movie before. Additionally, Piller and Rick Berman imagined that the story might be set against the threat of a new outbreak of hostilities between the two governments. The Romulans went on to be written into the first version of the film's story. (AOL chat, 1998),
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Romulan#Return_to_films
This episode features the first appearance of the Bajorans, who went on to be a focal point of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine. In the original story, it was the Romulans who were occupying Bajor, but Rick Berman felt the Romulans had been seen too much and, remembering "The Wounded", had the occupiers changed to the Cardassians. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - The Official Poster Magazine, issue 4) Even though this episode proved an inspiration on the creation of the DS9 TV series, it was written at a time before that series was envisioned. (Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - The Official Poster Magazine, issue 0),
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Ensign_Ro_(episode)#Background_information
It might seem redundant but as you can see I copied and pasted these on to my original post but I added some minor changes.
I mean, for myself, if I wanted to complain about Romulans getting shafted I'd go with the fact that the Rihannsu novels aren't a canon depiction of Romulan society. (I also wanted the Klingons to be more like the clever, intelligent SOBs in Ford's The Final Reflection than the space biker Vikings we got from TNG, but such is life.)
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Wasn't Enterprise season 4 supposed to feature Rihannsu-derived Romulans?
It is nothing that Hollywood doesn't deal with on a daily basis so it would not have been too much of a stretch. On the other hand, there is the possible stumbling block that both D.C. Fontana and Diane Duane left TNG is disgust in that highly toxic first year writers room so it is possible that neither of them would want to have anything to do with Berman and Paramount.
Yea... I think season 5 was going to be the Earth-Romulan War.
Didn't Roddenberry's lawyer or someone connected to Roddenberry break into places to edit and add notes to scripts? I remember seeing a video on youtube about the Top Ten Star Trek Feuds, and one of them was basically EVERYONE vs this one guy in TNG. NO ONE liked him, cast or crew.
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> Yea... I think season 5 was going to be the Earth-Romulan War.
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> Didn't Roddenberry's lawyer or someone connected to Roddenberry break into places to edit and add notes to scripts? I remember seeing a video on youtube about the Top Ten Star Trek Feuds, and one of them was basically EVERYONE vs this one guy in TNG. NO ONE liked him, cast or crew.
The documentary “Chaos of the Bridge” talks about this. It’s about the first two-three years of TNG.
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Yes, that was Leonard Maizlish. He was the one who turned the writer's room into a cesspit of toxicity by twisting messages, claiming notes and rewrites that he did were from Roddenberry, spread nasty rumors, got people fired, and generally trolled as much as he could get away with.
Wow he sounds like a TRIBBLE person, if I was in charge, I would had him fired after his first attempt, hmmm... fired wouldn't the correct term maybe set on fire and dropped out of a window would be better way to describe it, however I'm glad I'm not a CEO or a Prime Minister, I wouldn't know what I'd do with the bodies.
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> I think Diane might have been okay with it - she seems flattered whenever I mention STO's tributes to the Rihannsu novels on Twitter. I just wish the show hadn't been strangled by CBS; it would have been cool to see them deal with the war. (Maybe we would have seen the Daedelus-class introduced - soft canon says they came into being during the war!)
Actually seeing Archer deal with the war while the Romulans are pushed between the older system and 'expediency' leading to the Tal Shiar, etc., implied in the later Duane books would've probably been pretty well done given the track record established in season 4, but hypotheticals for fiction can be pretty rosy.
Still would've liked to see it though.
Also - having recently been playing catchup, the Romulan adjustments on Measure of Morality are kind of hilarious, speaking of getting the shaft.
"Guest stars, please, this is the climax of my personal story-arc, I'm sort of familiar with what was going on".
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