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Discovery S4 teaser trailer
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJ4CkuDx5LE
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Yep, this series is not aging well. A senseless red light mystery followed by a comical burn mystery, now a new low-stakes “gravity” mystery. Discovery must live in some heady David Hume universe where the laws of physics are in constant flux.
At least the bold-colored uniforms are cool. I look forward to that. I may even watch more than 5 episodes this year!
I am also happy because I know all the Discovery hating cry babies will be upset. Their tears are sweet sweet nectar to me!
Can't wait for the new season, it's a great time to be a fan of Star Trek!
Burnham should have stuck with that armor, the "captain" uniform looks like she put on a sofa cushion with sleeves. Very unflattering not to mention ridiculous looking. What is with all the overly stiff, thick fabrics on that show?
The only upside is that the trailer made it look like they may get to some storyline that has at least a resemblance to traditional Trek, though I suspect it will be far less than that trailer implied once the show hits the web, especially since it looks like the same cheesy melodramatic scripting as before.
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Move along, V'Ger, that first had a cloud of 82 AUs, before being reduced to a more reasonable but still massive and threatening 2 AUs (which is still twice the distance between Earth and the Sun), and say hello to DIS S4's main threat and its 316,205-AU-wide gravitational anomaly that can theoretically engulf both the Sun and Proxima Centauri!
T'Ket, what the hell did you do this time?
Must be recent since the only article I can find about it is from last month. There is an article from February 2020 that says that Section 31 is set to start filming in early 2020 and filming would be done by November 2020.
https://www.google.co.jp/amp/s/screenrant.com/star-trek-section-31-spinoff-release-delay-why/amp/
As for people talking about the grey uniforms looking similar to WW2 Germany... just remember that the grey was regular military. Not representative of the... extremist elements shall we say. That would be more of the Black uniforms. And IMO the grey Starfleet Uniforms I would compare more to the TMP style, or even the Kelvin Timeline dress uniforms/Admiral's uniform than historic military.
A 5 LY gravitational anomaly that can threaten everyone? Hm... Discovery likes its big mysteries. Might be interesting. Also... was Tilly wearing Science Blue rather than Engie color?
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Take a look at Owosekun at 00:44 as she extends her arm over the helm pannel, even if you cannot see the overly padded shoulders on Burnham with her arms hanging straight down you can see the cloth deforming around the pad at Owosekun's shoulder. Also you can see the fabric in general is thick and quite stiff and binding. It would chafe and cause unnecessary fatigue so even if it looked good on anything other than a digital model it would hardly be practical as a duty uniform.
While the color of the uniforms are a nice nod to traditional Trek, they could have avoided the movie era's weird notion of using the equivalent of class-A jacketed uniforms as duty uniforms.
What possible good would watching PIC do to address the issues qultuq brought up? It has all of the same gaffs and other problems that DSC has and presents the TNG/VOY characters in ways guaranteed to annoy fans of those shows. If anything the inclusion of so many guest stars from TNG and VOY in that mess is more of a problem.
A: (X) is going to destroy the universe if we don't stop it
B: Burnham crying every other episode
It would be awesome if they could figure out how to do a show with the Disco crew, without repeating those same things over and over again.
It would be cool to see them actually do normal Starfleet things in their new time period and behave like a normal crew facing a variety of different challenges and enemies.
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Join Date: Sep 2008
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May as well just have her piloting Discovery everywhere because none of the other characters are even needed
I guess it is smaller and more localized than the Burn, but come on.
Also why the over the top drama? Why is there no curiosity showcased in the trailer?
This is the sort of thing that would probably be a really interesting two parter in OldTrek, or a movie. NuTrek wants to do a whole season for it, and will almost surely drag it out well beyond what it needs to be to have a well developed satisfying story and plot.
That is just silly. If the National Socialist German Workers Party invented pet food, I swear some people would be for starving their pets to death.
Well, even if it includes the 2 above things, I can still hold out hope for something like what happened with Pike in S2. His character was so great it made the season watchable for me (and so great he got his own show). So even if S4 is another repeat of OMG WE'RE GONNA DIE/CRY CRY CRY, maybe a "Pike" like element can emerge that I can still enjoy
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Except that DSCs track record makes it all too likely that once the season gets here it will turn out that the "5 ly" phenomenon will start growing or moving or doing something else that makes it just another silly galaxy-destroying epic threat, and the heroes will be the ONLY ones who can do anything constructive in neutralizing that threat. Or there is the chance that it is just a hook in the first few segments that leads to the galaxy-wide threat that dominates the rest of the season.
Sure, there is the very faint chance that is it something else, but every time DSC has had a chance to reach for something unique above the generic pack they have taken the low road instead and I just don't see them changing that behavior anytime soon.
A 5 LY threat that goes wherever it wants whenever it wants and causes massive destruction along the way, which the trailer goes out of the way to imply NEEDS a huge level of cooperation to deal with. "We're all in this together" or whatever the line was. Did you miss that part with all the different species?
This isn't VGer or the Whale Probe that only bother Earth, this thing is shown off as less of a natural phenomenon and as more of the big bad that apparently goes after everyone, and likely gets there almost as fast as the Discovery can spore jump.
On some level its an interesting idea for Star Trek to explore, even if the scenes imply a very simplistic understanding of gravity, but all they are showing is destruction and tense scenes, which means I'm just disappointed, because they don't show any curiosity. And again, this does not need to be the entire season.
But keep on with your strawmen. I don't know what "constructive argument" I'm supposed to make when I'm explaining my opinion of a trailer.
You are missing the point, the term "galactic level threat" is being used as a space fiction equivalent of "world shattering" or "apocalyptic level", so it does not necessarily have to be literally galactic, just the whole of the characters' world (and no, not in the literal planet sense). It would be more accurate to use the literary term "epic threat" or "universal threat" but "epic" has lost its meaning from overuse and "universal" can be mistaken for the literal universe the same way "galactic level" can be mistaken for the literal galaxy and "world" for a mere planet.
Ultimately though... all we have is one trailer, which realistically isn't enough to judge an entire season on. All we know is that we got new uniforms, and a new threat. That's pretty much it.
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That is my assumption, that this thing is a galaxy level threat, not because its big, but because it can move anywhere and devastate everything. It is a lot like RoboCthulu, in that it may be an individual entity, but there isn't much of a way to stand against it, and it may be faster than you can escape it. The trailer demonstrated it was a destructive force with an implied ability to navigate at a significant speed, possibly directing itself towards inhabited planets. Otherwise it would just devastate a single star and people would study it for hundreds of years as it lazily drifted through the galaxy.
And yes, it is just a trailer. We have no details, just impressions and assumptions. That is what I assume this thread was for, to share impressions from the trailer.
My only response is: if you don't want to see people talking about something when you think it's too early, just don't click on threads about it. It's internet 101.
And "talking about" will obviously include both positive and negative things. You can't selectively say "it's too early to feel sad/disappointed based only a trailer" but at the same time say "it's ok to be happy/excited based only on a trailer". Both reactions are equally uniformed and based on equally limited material. Neither has any kind of moral superiority over the other.
The only qualifier is people should be civil to each other. "It's going to be great and if you disagree you suck" and "It's going to be bad and if you disagree you suck" are both equally wrong.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008