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snowpiercer
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Sort of tired seeing the slackers join events and not do anything but stand there or sit there in a ship and not participate while the rest of the team carries the weight. There should be some minimums in place that a player must achieve or not receive credit for the mission.
In the rocket event, for instance: Players should be required to gather at least one of each part or be disqualified. These losers just stand by their table and wait until it's over.
In space missions, you should need to fly a certain distance and do a minimum amount of damage.
In the rocket event, for instance: Players should be required to gather at least one of each part or be disqualified. These losers just stand by their table and wait until it's over.
In space missions, you should need to fly a certain distance and do a minimum amount of damage.
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Here is the thing: both yesterday and today when I queued up for the rocket event I couldn't even participate because good ole Cryptic hasn't seen fit to fix this bug:
https://www.arcgames.com/en/forums/startrekonline#/discussion/1261160/1st-contact-day-re-enactment-rocket-building-has-a-bug
So until Cryptic bothers to fix things like this, you can take your post and...do something with it
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I can 100% understand (and agree with) you having an issue with people not participating in combat missions, because that effects you. You have to "pick up the slack" and do more work to get the mission done.
But for the rocket event, it literally doesn't effect you at ALL whether someone else is participating or not. Correction: in a way it even makes it easier for you, because you aren't competing for part spawns. But the point is this: if you are bothered by a situation that has NO negative effect on you, AT ALL, then you really need to get down on your knees and thank (someone) for how great your life is, that this is all you have to worry about
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
This event has 3 options:
* Synth wave (we literally just had a month of synth wave on Console and now it is being crammed down our throats again.)
* Rocket launch (can you really expect a person to run around this map every day putting in 100% effort to build a stupid rocket?)
* Ground Patrol (I like this patrol, but it is extremely long and not something I want to do every day)
Synth wave is probably the worst designed TFO in this game, and I just had a month of nothing but synth wave. So I will do the rocket launch every day, and I will AFK the hell out of it or take a nice long stroll around the countryside.
I once got hit with an AFK penalty in a Tholian Red Alert because the blasted thing locked up on me.
Why does it bother you what others do. If you want to build a rocket go to it. If I want to shoot my party popers and perhaps throw up a disco ball. It's not up to you. :P
Wasn't there a bug last year on PC where players got the AFK penalty when another player encountered those spiders?
I usually spend a couple minutes to find parts then do admiralty with the rest of the time. I begrudge no one for doing even less. It doesn't affect me and doesn't matter.
The rocket event does require some action such as what you suggested or a afk penalty and no rewards are given.
Plus with the rocket event what difference does it make to you if someone is afk?
It doesn't affect you collecting parts,
adjusting parts
Hinder the progression of that mission.
Affect the rewards you receive.
Now other TFO's where participation for progress and reward does directly affect you there is a penalty system in place where you have to do x amount of dmg to not be flagged afk and get a TFO timeout.
OP has no business talking about the rocket event while it's bugged. Until Cryptic bothers to fix their game, people have every excuse to AFK that event if it bugs on them.
But generally speaking, I agree people need to participate and pull their weight in any event where participation actually matters.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Not to mention, having to do the same mission every day for 2-4 weeks only encourages people to AFK/do minimal work. This is, of course, only made worse when you have to do one of the above mentioned TFOs every day.
This. I like trying to build a all purple rocket even though it makes zero difference in the outcome, I get my marks and my daily and all is good. The problem is that almost half the time I'm forced to AFK because I simply can't do anything other than watch someone else fill my rocket slots for me.
Exactly what does one do when you get this other than AFK?
Surely, you could have been a bit more...tactful...in your choice of words. Implying, inferring, or outright calling someone you've never met in person a "slacker" or "loser" gets people's attention in the worst sort of way. It causes resentment and friction where none is needed.
If other people playing a timegated mission which offers the exact same rewards to everyone, regardless of the amount of participation, in a manner which you find offensive, you have two choices:
1) Don't play the mission ever again.
2) Simply ignore what they're doing and enjoy yourself.
I give less than a...can't use the word here, but Y'all know which one I mean... what the other players in this mission are doing.
I'm celebrating First Contact Day in Bozeman Montana by flying a model rocket.
This game and these forums have entirely too many busybodies running about telling others what they're doing or what they like is all wrong. The perverse part of my nature now wants to seek your character out ingame and AFK enough so you rage quit STO forever.
It would amuse me greatly to know I was successful in removing one more irritant from STO permanently.
But to do so would make me just like you. And you are one person I never ever want to be like.
I've been in several rocket missions where my character name is listed on two different colors but I've never had an issue completing the event. And the player who had my name on their table finished it too.
Besides, even if there were such a bug, how would you know if you just stood in one place during the entire event and never moved?
I participated anyway even thou I couldnt put anything on the rocket and still got credit however, I did actually participate, I did fetch parts and upgrade parts at the end.
Whether are not it affects me is not the point. I don't like freeloaders. Being of the opinion that something is okay as long as it does not affect you personally is a selfish attitude.
IF that's your feeling, they may as well remove the event and just give everyone the rewards.
Except for the fact that the rockets with better parts always go higher.
I guess I've just been lucky then. In all the years I've done this event, I've never been unable to complete it, even when my name is on two colors.
That is ONLY true if you are talking about something that is actually HARMFUL to others. Yes, not caring about a problem that effects other people just because it doesn't effect you is selfish; I agree.
But if something does not actually harm ANYONE, AT ALL, then there is nothing "selfish" about not caring about it. In the specific example of the rocket event that you are apparently so upset about, someone not participating does not effect you or ANYONE else negatively, AT ALL.
In that specific circumstance, yes it IS silly to let it upset you so much.
As far as other events where participation actually MATTERS, I agree each person should be doing their part.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
Did you mean @darkbladejk?
Nope. I'll PM you the details
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I also think it might encourage more participation from some people if there were variable rewards depending on how your rocket does. (I don't think that the part quality has no effect on the rockets flight, but the random factor may be a bit much as is.) Ultimately I don't know what capabilities and limitations the TFO designers have, so it's possible they may not be able to make AFK penalties that are specific to this TFO without major work.
As far as the bug mentioned, I've never seen it. But having read posts here, if I encountered it and was the one bugged, I would keep gathering parts and adjust parts. And I'd report the bug so I could be sure that they actually know it exists. I won't fault someone who doesn't participate if they are bugged though. (I think I've seen one occasion where a person apparently failed to get into the TFO so there was a blank name in the list. As I recall, that rocket exploded right at launch.)
And I know that the AFK penalties don't always work right. On one occasion, during a Sompek event, I seemingly was joining a game in progress, (I could hear it) but by the time the loading screen was done, the event was over, and I got an AFK penalty even though I never got the chance to do anything. (I reported that as a bug at the time, suggesting that they not have people join in-progress events like that. Don't know if anything came of that, but I haven't encountered a similar situation since then.)
I've also seen that the TFO system can be more forgiving then I expected, when I've had my internet die on me right when going into a TFO/Red Alert but managed to get back on and get back in before it ended so I could actually contribute. (Router probably was rebooting after an automatic update or something, given the time I was playing.)