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yuki109
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forget this discovery stuff cryptic it isn't real star trek. instead be more star trek and go where no star trek has gone before.
use the iconian gateway network to get to andromeda like it was hinted at, and you can add exploration missions, first contact missions, new alien races, AND you can design your own ships that people won't hate because they are alien ships and won't break current canon by putting them in.
this would take star trek online back to true star trek where exploration is key and since there will just be small outposts of the alliance that we build there there could be new threats against us since we will be small and weak there compared to anyone established over there.
you could even make missions revolve around trying to find out why the milky way has a barrier around it blocking escape by normal means, and also uncover why the races in the shows from andromeda said the galaxy is dieing and becoming uninhabitable, there is so much that the writing team and design teams could flex their creativity on
use the iconian gateway network to get to andromeda like it was hinted at, and you can add exploration missions, first contact missions, new alien races, AND you can design your own ships that people won't hate because they are alien ships and won't break current canon by putting them in.
this would take star trek online back to true star trek where exploration is key and since there will just be small outposts of the alliance that we build there there could be new threats against us since we will be small and weak there compared to anyone established over there.
you could even make missions revolve around trying to find out why the milky way has a barrier around it blocking escape by normal means, and also uncover why the races in the shows from andromeda said the galaxy is dieing and becoming uninhabitable, there is so much that the writing team and design teams could flex their creativity on
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Cryptic could bring in the other actors like Lexa Doig and Lisa Ryder as an in-joke.
> Just as long as Kevin Sorbo isn't involved, he's gone off the deep end.
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> Cryptic could bring in the other actors like Lexa Doig and Lisa Ryder as an in-joke.
Lexa doig and michael shanks. They're married, or at least they were. And he was in the other series with a portal to elsewhere.
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Just like the Iconian gateways, which apparently have disappeared as we don't hear anything about those anymore - even though thousands of them were opened and the Iconians themselves have retreated to a single planet.
That being said, the Lukari arc wasn't disappointing. Some story elements that came after the Iconian War, were good. (Some, because I don't consider the one-sided and hypocritical propaganda told by the temporal agents very good.)
Or are you under the rather odd impression that no more stories are ever going to be produced for STO?
We found a gateway in the Gamma Quadrant?
Agreed about the Delta Quadrant though I'll reaffirm that the Gamma quadrant is lacking in terms of things to actually do. Sure, there's a quadrant wide battlezone but it's not that great IMO and I don't many people using it. I'd like to see some patrols or something else to do there.
That's a very narrow view of what's possible. There's dozens or even hundreds of races that can be woven into the Gamma Quadrant map. Anything from a Borg Invasion (totally unoriginal I know) to a Cardassian colony or whatever else you want. Then add to that Cryptic is perfectly capable of creating their own races like the Lukari and Deferi and creating new storylines for them. The Gamma Quadrant need not be the narrow list of possibilities that you came up with.
Cool. Also doesn't preclude anything I said. The point of updating the gamma quadrant wouldn't be to invent a new species. Making up a new species would just be a vehicle for the plot and is only ONE of several options. Thanks for helping to make my point for me.
I don't know if you're aware but we have this cool thing called the wormhole that allows us to travel from the alpha quadrant to the gamma quadrant. We also have an iconian gateway that allows travel from the delta quadrant to the gamma quadrant. Thanks to this, we're not limited to the 21 species you mention.
I simply doubt they're going back to the Iconian gateway thing and still bring us to Andromeda. If they wanted to do that, they probably would have done it when the Iconian story was still 'hot'.
They didn't just invent the Lukari and the Deferi.
The Tzenkethi and the Hur'q were also nothing but a name before the devs did something with them. True, they drew some inspiration on where to start from others when working out the Tzenkethi, but most of what makes up the species is still Cryptic-original design.
I think for many people that is utter nonsense. Star Trek is about seeking NEW life and NEW civilizations, boldly going where no one has gone before, not rehashing and recycling the same old stuff.
Its great to have good stories with familiar faces, but Star Trek has explicitly been about exploring new things and that was something the Foundry helped explore and to some degree the old exploration clusters which are both sorely missed for that aspect.
Cryptic should make new stuff. The Deferi were terrible because they were written to play both sides, while the Lukari had their own interests and personality that simply aligned with both sides in different ways.
The Deferi are terrible because they are written terribly. I am a bit of a Deferi fan and have Deferi characters (Aliengen) and made up a lot of things like their own fleet, uniforms and such. The race concept of the Deferi is a good one, but it was very badly executed and should be revisited. A 'Neutral' alignment (in the sense of a RPG character alignment, not political one) is very hard to get it right, and Cryptic's take on the Deferi being completely passive regarding everything was the complete wrong way.
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Sudden complete reversals like that rarely work out well, it tends to give the story an arbitrary, fairy tale feel that viewers/readers/players/etc. don't really go for outside of children's stories.
The problem with the Deferi isn't that they live by a philosophy of balance, it is the fact that the philosophy is done as an unnuanced absolute which makes the race come off as a shallow, dull, one trick pony. All it takes is reading a few lines of dialog and there is nothing more to discover about them.
Vulcans and their logic is a great example of a people driven by a single philosophy but with the nuances that make them come alive for the viewers.
You might like the concept of Balance in Sharon Lee & Steve Miller's Liaden novels. There Balance is more like evening the score, t i t -for-tat with a bit of honor in that an individual is expected by society to maintain it. An individual has their balance with others as does their extended family or clan.
The audience didn't know anything about most of these 'known' species and the crews were still encountering things they had no idea how to deal with because no one dealt with it before or died trying. And even those that were pre-established were explored further to build some culture and customs for them.
Klingons were basically cartoon badguys until late in the TOS movies, and TNG and DS9 really fleshed them out further. TNG gave us a ton of species we had never seen before. DS9 gave us all the Gamma Quadrant species and built up the Ferengi.
STO, on the other hand is doing very little new, with new or old species. To some degree it fills in gaps out of necessity, but we aren't learning about Vulcan rituals we've never heard of before, nor new species and their rituals/customs. STO is basically hey, did you like that episode of Star Trek where....?
Space is big. There is plenty of space for STO to really build something unique and new. Using the Andromeda galaxy or another is basically a clean slate for STO to really be creative and add something new to Trek.
I think the impression is that we'll be left hanging with loose ends whenever CBS/Paramount puts out new shows and the like because Cryptic (for some reason) is obligated to put the new content into their game. Before Discovery, it was rumored that the next story content was supposed to involve Leeta and the Terran Empire. It's been three years of heavy Discovery-oriented content with a hint of Picard sprinkled in, and frankly - even with a sizeable Disco-fleet at my disposal - I'd like to move on. No more khest'n time travel shenanigans. I don't think even the AoY content was this pervasive.
The problem is, going back to the Terran Empire now is inevitably going to involve Captain "Killy" because of the Pahvo brouhaha, and Leeta will end up taking a back seat because she's from the "old" Trek, and "Killy" is "new" Trek.
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So the Deferi are just going to sit there and continue with trying to find balance after it failed them in their time of need aka the time when the Breen invaded their home planet and kill a bunch of their population over an artifact, IDK about you but if another species did that to my planet and my people I would do everything in my power to seek revenge.