I haven't really checked but is odo's fleet a permanent thing in the gamma quadrant if it is it could be the new updated version of battle group omega or whatever it was called that had a buch of ships gathered together in space with bank,exchange, and mail like a spacemall with ships that act like foodcarts/kiskos. Dominion battleship kind surround those business ships.
The asset is there so i mean i want to plop one of my captains in the gamma quadrant long term but don't want to have to call in a ship to use the bank or call in a person to use the exchange. Heck this fleet of ships could be excuse that it is to defend the gate since there is a ships in the area on of romulan gate that is defended, the delta gate is secure. the gamma gate is just a gate with nothing around it and it needs defense and it is in Dominion territory.. Alliance or not it is Dominion territory so makes sense. I know such a thing will not become a reality.
I mean the Devs have voiced ideas on things that were a good idea but later dropped because it was not worth it to do it. But i mean yeah bring back the spirit of the old battle group omega as battle group gamma.
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Wait I have to wonder though...
How much Dil do you intend to contribute to max out a respective holding?
more like 8k/day or more like 80k/day?
Colony holding was the latter for me btw.
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I don't see that happening anytime soon, if at all, judging by the dev's reactions when asked about it. They simply seem to be uninterested in anything but Jem'Hadar and the absolute minimum needed to support them, and dislike the idea of playable Vorta and other Gamma races that they would need if they were going to actually open Gamma up like they did Delta or the others.
But I wouldn't say no to the Alliance taking over, say... an old research facility or something to act as an outpost or something in Gamma.
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Jem'Hadar don't have a homeworld, they are made in towable satellite facilities set up near whatever area they will be operating in (there were a couple of DS9 episodes that dealt with that). They are decanted from a machine with pre-programmed skills and are ready to deploy in three days. For the playable Jem'Hadar the closest thing to a homeworld is is Odo's home, DS9.
With the sole exception of Odo, the founders build them like machines and treat them like machines though they are biotech rather than mechanical.
That would be nice, but there is still the problem of the "faction" not being the Dominion itself, just Odo's expeditionary force so whatever it was it would not be home base for the current playable J'H, that is DS9. I suppose they could do another kind of embassy or something though.
This would allow for some Dominion based goodies - there could be a Dominion staging outpost as part of the holding (We have no way of obtaining more Very Rare Jem'Hadar BOFFs right now) as well as other Gamma Quadrant races stuff not based purely on warfare (DOFFs for instance).
I mean, yeah, the Hur'q attacked it when we left but there was nothing to suggest that it was outright destroyed.
> Couldn't have been any worse than K-13...
Hey now. I like k13. I'd like to see personal k13s in the game. But I know that won't happen.
Yeah, me too
> > @crm14916 said:
> > Couldn't have been any worse than K-13...
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> Hey now. I like k13. I'd like to see personal k13s in the game. But I know that won't happen.
I do too! My comment was in response to Reyan's comment right above mine. K-13 was pretty much trashed when we get a hold of it, and the projects with to repair it...
CM
aha. makes more sense now.
> Jem'Hadar don't have a homeworld, they are made in towable satellite facilities set up near whatever area they will be operating in (there were a couple of DS9 episodes that dealt with that). They are decanted from a machine with pre-programmed skills and are ready to deploy in three days. For the playable Jem'Hadar the closest thing to a homeworld is is Odo's home, DS9.
They have Gar'Alam
I'm curious as to the source of this, it looks like you added it to the "Gamma wiki" and I don't see sources. I suppose a wiki that is Fanfic wouldn't need sources, but it would be nice. While your at it can you add any more details, just a name and a blank wiki page, kind of makes it hard to take this seriously.
> Jem'Hadar are grown in biotech factories, the closest thing in other popular sci-fi to them would be Replicants from Blade Runner. If a main factory is on the ground somewhere it would be a stretch to call it their "homeworld". They were designed out of bits of Klingon and other DNA stitched together in a lab somewhere.
Does STO really say there is Klingon DNA in the Jem'hadar? Because canon doesn't. In fact they were careful to not have any connection between the two whatsoever to have them stand out. The Jems were supposed to be a 'primitive' warrior race the dominion 'lifted' via genetic engineering, supposedly they just enhanced their abilities and eliminated everything not combat relevant including procreation. But not a word about Klingon relation.
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The Fek'ihri were made using Klingon DNA, and warping it to match ancient Klingon legends of demons. But the Jem'Hadar were created before The Dominion ever crossed the wormhole in ancient times.
That could be what I was thinking of, I never cared much for the Jem'Hadar themselves so I may have mixed some of the details up with the Fek'iri (which I don't care for much either) though I have seen the war episodes so I know about the factories they set up near trouble spots.
The Dominion whips them up in batches in those factories and treats them just like smarter than average combat drones or something, cannon fodder they can through at the enemy without a single care or regret. The don't even bother giving them full memories, just the bare skills from what the ones the DS9 people worked with said in the episode where the five year old one played straight man to Dax's longevity joke.
The Dominion should have created the Jem and Vorta from scratch, full biological constructs, the Religion would have had some bases in reality and created plot lines/conflict on the relationships between Secular governments and a "Dominion" whose founders aren't playing gods, but are creator gods. Add that to fact that the Dominion would be a "mirror" of the Federation, they Augment and control life forms they create, bestowing intelligence (creating intelligent beings) that are born into slavery with death the only way out, The Federation outlaws augmentation, hates slavery, and (at least with Kirk) has a tendency to kill or destroy self-titled gods.
Good Times.
Eris tried her own add-hoc infiltration scheme when the opportunity unexpectedly dropped in her lap, and since she did not have a lot of time to prepare probably fell back on the old adage that the best lie is shading the truth. Not only was her story quite different from the "don't mind me, we are meek and harmless" line Weyoun was pushing, most of the Vorta you see in the show tend to be rather ruthless and strongly passive aggressive, traits that are more common in societies that have been under occupation or oppressed for a very long time, which is more like Eris's story.
In my not so humble opinion, it was a mistake to lock the holding system behind the fleet wall. I don't even think that fleets really wanted holdings per se. They just wanted there to be more to being in a fleet than just being in a fleet.
Imagine what the Starbase would have been like had it been open to the entire community (with costs to project contribution scaled to account for the actual player bases size) which all participants could watch taking shape and growing over time, and years later, upon visiting it, anyone who participated could honestly say "I helped build this place."
Of course, fleets could still have their specialized stores like they do in existing holdings and fleet members participating in facility construction (or upkeep thereof if completed) would earn their fleet points towards unlocking access to terminal functions for their fleet.. So you have a developing central hub of player activity being built by all players regardless of fleet status, while also incentivizing fleets to participate. But NOBODY gets shut out.
If there is to be another holding-style element, I would want to see it done like this.