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trennan
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Will they be lockbox? Promo? or a Legendary bundle? I'm not sure. But here are three ships from Discovery S3. We can bet will make their way into the game. The Voyager-J! The USS Nog! and an unnamed hammerhead design.
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/voyager-j-poster.html?fbclid=IwAR2Z2Fx96m0VV8xCgvpkt6xEqzjudhARL2wXcv_u5pc_5secFYgsR29mPrY
https://www.giantfreakinrobot.com/ent/voyager-j-poster.html?fbclid=IwAR2Z2Fx96m0VV8xCgvpkt6xEqzjudhARL2wXcv_u5pc_5secFYgsR29mPrY
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I'd expect the Voyager-J to get a huge fan response. The other two are iffy at best.
Especially given that we already have the Bellerophon, three free Intrepids, a T6 Intrepid, a Fleet T6 Intrepid, a Legendary Intrepid...
Let them come up with something original again, instead of trying to endlessly milk the playerbase by releasing minor variations of existing ships.
We've already passed the point where they're just adding 'legendary' to a ship's name and adding of some stats or a console slot. We already had the silly requirement that you needed to buy separate (fleet) modules to actually get a full T6 ship in many cases.
I don't know about others, but I'm getting tired of seeing the same product being sold to players multiple times - and sometimes not even a full product. It's bad practice and lazy. We shouldn't encourage this.
Instead, we should encourage them to design new ships. The ship design artists are very talented. Giving them the opportunity to actually design something new, would be much better.
Just add those Voyager-J skins to existing versions of the C-store ships for a change, if they really want to add them to the game. It's not a different ships, it's a slight variation of it and that's how it should be marketed.
Some of the designs in @trennan 's link are actually original. Better to design something based on that, than making (and selling as new) yet another slightly different ship that doesn't really stand out that much.
While they only showed the top of the saucer in the episode, the Voyager-J was the most clearly focused of the future ships and the one with the most detail.
I think all of them will be lockbox or promo ships, but if any of them has any chance at all of being C-Store it's probably the Voyager-J.
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If they do a T6 Nova, I hope they follow that up with a Legendary Mirror Universe Nova, using the Defiant protoype design when the ship designers of DS9 was working on that looked like the Nova-class ship with the twin cannons in the Saucer-section.
@reyan01 I Just seen a T5 Nova in STO on the PS4 for 200k fleet tokens and no modules required
https://flic.kr/p/2kd4Fyo
"bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'"
Revenge is a Dish, Best Served Cold ~ Khan Noonien Singh
You must have missed the thread that reyan01 had going for years about the Nova.
The Nova you pointed out is functional as far as a fleet T5 goes but the model it uses is from way back when the game first started and is not screen-accurate, and is rather low-res, enough so that it even makes any vanity shield you put on it look muddy and bad. And even if the model was better it is still not T6, which is the direction the game is going in (the devs have said several times that they intend to make all the old ships T6 eventually). The Nova is the oldest ship in the game that has never gotten any quality touchups.
And a lot of other ships are not T6 yet either (such as the T5 star cruisers like the Emissary, the Dyson destroyers, and most of the old science ships like the Nova) and as pointed out already the chances of a particular one getting revamped goes down as more of the mostly unimaginative and unsightly Kurtzman Trek ships are shoved into the queue ahead of them unless, like the Luna, they end up on Lower Decks.
To Note Consoles do not yet have the T6X implemented which still makes this and Upgradeable to T5U. Also There are other Models available to this T5 or did you not see the Square button? However i do see what your saying, But on PS4 it hasn't quite advanced to the PAR of PC yet, it is more like 2013 time again on the consoles not 2020...
EDIT: Here is the Rhode Island, and they also have the Quasar Variant...
https://flic.kr/p/2kdaKh3
"bortaS bIr jablu'DI' reH QaQqu' nay'"
Revenge is a Dish, Best Served Cold ~ Khan Noonien Singh
Yes, like most of the oldschool ships the Nova comes in a kitbashable set (in this case Nova, Aurora, Quasar, and Rhode Island) but the thing is that the entire set of kitbash parts is of the same very low quality since none of them have gotten the quality passes that just about every other ship from way back at the launch of the game has had. For some reason the devs just do not like it so it gets ignored.
I have no idea what the game looks like on console since I never had one, but on PC the difference is rather noticeable compared to other ships.
I have a Nova/Aurora/Quasar kitbash that I like the shape of (Ianthe, the character who's picture I use as my forum avatar here, flew it) but the hull textures are horrible, so while I have toyed with the idea of using the fleet one I never actually do it since I know it has the same ugly low res textures as the low tier one. The Nova set would look better than the Intrepid class if the devs would bring it up to modern standards.
Remember when T6 ships were launched? The Vesta and Nebula (and only those two ships for some reason) got a stat upgrade.
Just before that, ships like the Atrox and the Chimera got a fleet upgrade (even though T5 fleet ships were soon to be outdated).
Many ships haven't gotten just one, but multiple visual revamps over the years. They even designed entirely new hull materials for the legendary ships and the ones that were recently re-released as a bundle.
Some ships have like 5 different versions while others have just one or two (even if they're much more expensive to get).
I'm sure the new shows and designs from those play some role and will delay the release of other ships. But it's just one factor, Dev favouritism towards certain designs is nothing new.
Of course, this is all my opinion, I am just saying, I honestly don't see what it is about these newer ships that are being released that everyone is so hyped up about. I thought Star Trek fans had higher expectations than that and would expect more from one of the most powerful I.P.s ever to hit the big screen.
I would have personally thought that they would have explored the Enterprise split neck look on a few more ideas before running off to this straight lines future (more like past) thing that they have going on. In fact, I don't think straight lines would ever be the future of any kind...like ever. It is far too simple and reminds me of the 1990's virtual reality look of video games of those times.
These ships are getting to a point that even I could have designed them. They are horrible looking to me and for me personally they represent a complete lazy approach to ship design.
Did none of you notice the Nova Ship of the Line bundle had a T6 Nova and upgraded graphics and new ship materials?
Here is the details
https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11478413-ships-of-the-line:-nebula-bundle!
Here is the details on the T6 Nova/Sutherland Class Advanced Research Vessel.
https://sto.gamepedia.com/Sutherland_Advanced_Research_Vessel
Are you trolling? or is this serious?
You do know that 'Nova' and 'Nebula' are different words right?
They're also different ships.
> Are you trolling? or is this serious?
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> You do know that 'Nova' and 'Nebula' are different words right?
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> They're also different ships.
Apparently I'm hallucinating, because I could have sworn that it was the Nova.
Damn mandala effect 🤓😇🤯
Wow...took the words right out of my mouth. That's gonna sting a bit to whichever Dev reads this, lol.
Second that notion...
I am a huge Discovery Fan.. I absolutely love it.. but I have to agree. If I have a complaint about the show it would be the ship designs, none of them really do it for me.
Funny thing is, every time I see a new class ship in Discovery I am happy because it looks terrible and I know I won't have to sell a kidney to get one in STO because I won't even want it.
I like the Discovery ships from the past, but the future ships do nothing for me. They aren't as bad as the Enterprise J which is the worst ship ever designed, but they aren't great.
Joking, sort of. Anyway, the "NuNuNuNuConnie/Reliant-M" looks alright from some angles, with a crew of 2000 it would be maybe closer to the Universe class in terms of size, might be fun.