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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,869 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    In terms of science I still prefer to use my upgraded legendary intrepid, in terms of being a destroyer it's still lacking in the boff department since you can only have one ltcom tac seat, there's other sci/tac hybrid ships which I would still prefer over it such as the annorax, tac vesta and lukari scout ship, the only real thing it has over most of them is the 7th weapon slot.
  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 9,245 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    age03 wrote: »
    So the Feds get a new Toy and the KDF nothing .The KDF could some new ships like D5 light cruiser like the Miranda..
    The D5 is already in the game
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tong'Duj_Freighter

    The white knighting is looking a bit desperate at this point.

    Pointing to the FREIGHTER and trying to claim it's a D5?

    ...... the Tong'Duj IS a D5, modified to BE a freighter. It was literally seen as such in an episode of ENT, as even then, it was an old and outdated design and relegated to being little more than a freighter ship.

    That link to the STO wiki even has a link to Memory Alpha at the bottom that illustrates this.

    Be that as it may...but how about a T6 version of that ship. I like how it looks...and the freighter we got was also pretty cool and fun.
  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    In terms of science I still prefer to use my upgraded legendary intrepid, in terms of being a destroyer it's still lacking in the boff department since you can only have one ltcom tac seat, there's other sci/tac hybrid ships which I would still prefer over it such as the annorax, tac vesta and lukari scout ship, the only real thing it has over most of them is the 7th weapon slot.

    The Titan class is a modeswitch ship: the Lt.Com Tac and Com Sci switch ranks when it changes, so it changes to Com Tac and Lt.Com Sci. The Dyson Ships have this exact gimmick.
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    age03 wrote: »
    So the Feds get a new Toy and the KDF nothing .The KDF could some new ships like D5 light cruiser like the Miranda..
    The D5 is already in the game
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tong'Duj_Freighter

    The white knighting is looking a bit desperate at this point.

    Pointing to the FREIGHTER and trying to claim it's a D5?

    ...... the Tong'Duj IS a D5, modified to BE a freighter. It was literally seen as such in an episode of ENT, as even then, it was an old and outdated design and relegated to being little more than a freighter ship.

    That link to the STO wiki even has a link to Memory Alpha at the bottom that illustrates this.

    It's a TRIBBLE FREIGHTER!

    Comparing it to the Miranda is plain stupid. It's a T4 special from an event not a D5. Feddy bears are getting pretty obvious in their prejudice at this point when they point to a T4 special freighter as the reason we shouldn't have a T6 D5.

  • sorceror01sorceror01 Member Posts: 1,042 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    age03 wrote: »
    So the Feds get a new Toy and the KDF nothing .The KDF could some new ships like D5 light cruiser like the Miranda..
    The D5 is already in the game
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tong'Duj_Freighter

    The white knighting is looking a bit desperate at this point.

    Pointing to the FREIGHTER and trying to claim it's a D5?

    ...... the Tong'Duj IS a D5, modified to BE a freighter. It was literally seen as such in an episode of ENT, as even then, it was an old and outdated design and relegated to being little more than a freighter ship.

    That link to the STO wiki even has a link to Memory Alpha at the bottom that illustrates this.

    It's a TRIBBLE FREIGHTER!

    Comparing it to the Miranda is plain stupid. It's a T4 special from an event not a D5. Feddy bears are getting pretty obvious in their prejudice at this point when they point to a T4 special freighter as the reason we shouldn't have a T6 D5.

    ....... the Tong'Duj freighter...

    .... is from the ENT Episode "Marauders"....

    .... Where it is CLEARLY a modified D5 class battlecruiser....

    .... as very obviously pointed out by it's Memory Alpha page.

    This is not a debate, or literally even arguable. It is what it is.
    And the fact that the D5 was already being used as a freighter over a century before Miranda-type starships were even developed, indicates it was an aged design and not necessarily a frontline combat vessel literally before the Federation was founded.

    Whinge about wanting one all you like, but those are the facts, dude. And literally no one is saying to NOT maybe make one in the future??? You're the one busting into a thread about one ship and fussing about a completely different ship, then getting nitpicky when people point out that ship is technically in the game already, just not in a form you are personally pleased with. There is no need for you to be so obtuse about this.





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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,415 Arc User
    This faction tribalism thing is just trolling at this point, isn't it? Nobody chooses a d
    faction. Everything is for everybody.
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  • daimon97daimon97 Member Posts: 330 Arc User
    I wonder when will we get a Borg Sphere or Cube? XD
  • lianthelialianthelia Member Posts: 7,476 Arc User
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    sorceror01 wrote: »
    age03 wrote: »
    So the Feds get a new Toy and the KDF nothing .The KDF could some new ships like D5 light cruiser like the Miranda..
    The D5 is already in the game
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tong'Duj_Freighter

    The white knighting is looking a bit desperate at this point.

    Pointing to the FREIGHTER and trying to claim it's a D5?

    ...... the Tong'Duj IS a D5, modified to BE a freighter. It was literally seen as such in an episode of ENT, as even then, it was an old and outdated design and relegated to being little more than a freighter ship.

    That link to the STO wiki even has a link to Memory Alpha at the bottom that illustrates this.

    It's a TRIBBLE FREIGHTER!

    Comparing it to the Miranda is plain stupid. It's a T4 special from an event not a D5. Feddy bears are getting pretty obvious in their prejudice at this point when they point to a T4 special freighter as the reason we shouldn't have a T6 D5.

    ....... the Tong'Duj freighter...

    .... is from the ENT Episode "Marauders"....

    .... Where it is CLEARLY a modified D5 class battlecruiser....

    .... as very obviously pointed out by it's Memory Alpha page.

    This is not a debate, or literally even arguable. It is what it is.
    And the fact that the D5 was already being used as a freighter over a century before Miranda-type starships were even developed, indicates it was an aged design and not necessarily a frontline combat vessel literally before the Federation was founded.

    Whinge about wanting one all you like, but those are the facts, dude. And literally no one is saying to NOT maybe make one in the future??? You're the one busting into a thread about one ship and fussing about a completely different ship, then getting nitpicky when people point out that ship is technically in the game already, just not in a form you are personally pleased with. There is no need for you to be so obtuse about this.





    And what is your point? The NX was literally a unshielded light cruiser which originally was equipped with missiles and we have it as a T6...doesn't matter if the D5 is old, no reason it can't be brought in.
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,415 Arc User
    > @lianthelia said:
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    > And what is your point? The NX was literally a unshielded light cruiser which originally was equipped with missiles and we have it as a T6...doesn't matter if the D5 is old, no reason it can't be brought in.

    To be fair, nobody said it can't be a T6. Sorceror simply pointed out that a D5 is in the game. However, they were of course deliberately obtuse to the fact that of course falkenkezef was meaning a T6 (actually regularly playable) version and not a freighter.

    So both parties were a bit silly here.
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 2,620 Arc User
    age03 wrote: »
    So the Feds get a new Toy and the KDF nothing .The KDF could some new ships like D5 light cruiser like the Miranda..
    The D5 is already in the game
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Tong'Duj_Freighter

    The white knighting is looking a bit desperate at this point.

    Pointing to the FREIGHTER and trying to claim it's a D5?

    Actually, there was a military fuel transport that was built on the D5 hull in ENT, it was in the episode Marauders.
  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    HMS Eagle was built as a dreadnought but converted to a carrier. Was it still considered a dreadnought?

    A freighter built on a cruiser hull is not a cruiser. It's so desperate of the white knights and feddy bears to deny KDF any T6 ships these days.

    There is no D5 Cruiser in game so how about the KDF get a ship every now and again? Would it trigger the feddy bears so much if a ship came out that wasn't fed?

  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 10,415 Arc User
    HMS Eagle was built as a dreadnought but converted to a carrier. Was it still considered a dreadnought?

    A freighter built on a cruiser hull is not a cruiser. It's so desperate of the white knights and feddy bears to deny KDF any T6 ships these days.

    There is no D5 Cruiser in game so how about the KDF get a ship every now and again? Would it trigger the feddy bears so much if a ship came out that wasn't fed?

    Nobody says that. Please stop stirring up imaginary flames over a conflict that is only in your head. Nobody of your straw people opposes Klingon ships. Yes, it was clear you were talking about a T6 ship and Sorceror mistook you on purpose but it'd be much more constructive if this stupid tribalism forum-pvp of imaginary factions would stop.​​
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    ^ Memory Alpha.org is not canon. It's a open wiki with arbitrary rules. Only what can be cited from an episode is. ^
    "No. Men do not roar. Women roar. Then they hurl heavy objects... and claw at you." -Worf, son of Mogh
    "A filthy, mangy beast, but in its bony breast beat the heart of a warrior" - "faithful" (...) "but ever-ready to follow the call of the wild." - Martok, about a Targ
    "That pig smelled horrid. A sweet-sour, extremely pungent odor. I showered and showered, and it took me a week to get rid of it!" - Robert Justman, appreciating Emmy-Lou
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    So as it is, is Titan the first single ship release that is all faction from the zen store?
  • shadowfang240shadowfang240 Member Posts: 35,845 Arc User
    the first faction-based ship that is all faction, yes; not the first period, because there are cross-faction ships in mudd's portion of the zen store​​
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 5,836 Arc User
    So as it is, is Titan the first single ship release that is all faction from the zen store?

    No, I believe that would go to the cardassian intel ships
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,230 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    Still cannot find the fleet version of Titan on KDF, anywhere. I checked all the Tier tabs, tried unchecking all the ship types, tried both KDF fleet shipyard and Qonos shipyard. I do own the C-Store variant, so should be seeing one for 1 FSM but it's missing. The T6 Fleet Luna does show up on Fed, but in the (non-fleet) T6 Tab. (yes, KDF can fly this ship too as confirmed by Cryptic on twitter).
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 5,836 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    Still cannot find the fleet version of Titan on KDF, anywhere. I checked all the Tier tabs, tried unchecking all the ship types, tried both KDF fleet shipyard and Qonos shipyard. I do own the C-Store variant, so should be seeing one for 1 FSM but it's missing. (yes, KDF can fly this ship too as confirmed by Cryptic on twitter).

    Based on the wording of the tweet it sounds like it wasn't originally intended, they just decided to leave it as is rather than fix it. So the fleet version is probably working as originally intended, though you'd have to ask the devs if it's gonna stay that way.

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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 2,869 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    The T6 Fleet version seems to be missing from the shipyard store.

    Edit: it wasn't available through T6 Fleet science ships directly but I kept going through different options until it finally showed up.
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 2,920 Arc User
    Yes, it looks great in the D7 kelvin vanity shield, i dont have the Fel'kri one, but i guess it looks good too?
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  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,687 Arc User
    the first faction-based ship that is all faction, yes; not the first period, because there are cross-faction ships in mudd's portion of the zen store​​

    I don't consider Mudd's part of the zen store hence why I framed my question as it is.


    So as it is, is Titan the first single ship release that is all faction from the zen store?

    No, I believe that would go to the cardassian intel ships

    Hence why I asked my question as, "the first single ship release," besides with your statement didn't those 31st Century Temporal ships release before the Cardassians pack?


    Still cannot find the fleet version of Titan on KDF, anywhere. I checked all the Tier tabs, tried unchecking all the ship types, tried both KDF fleet shipyard and Qonos shipyard. I do own the C-Store variant, so should be seeing one for 1 FSM but it's missing. The T6 Fleet Luna does show up on Fed, but in the (non-fleet) T6 Tab. (yes, KDF can fly this ship too as confirmed by Cryptic on twitter).

    That is very IMPORTANT to know if the Titan's fleet version is assessible for KDF-aligned too???

  • qultuqqultuq Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    > @evilmark444 said:
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    > Based on the wording of the tweet it sounds like it wasn't originally intended, they just decided to leave it as is rather than fix it. So the fleet version is probably working as originally intended, though you'd have to ask the devs if it's gonna stay that way.
    >

    It was totally intended and was hinted at when the initial blog post said KDF could use the console.

    I am not sure why they would spin it as being a bug”—unless they thought the KDF would be angry at the implications that all ships going forward may be cross-factioned.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,230 Arc User
    @qultuq
    Again, in your opinion it was intended. In my opinion and with actual official evidence, it was not. Sometimes it helps to clarify this to avoid people thinking one is intentionally spreading misinformation.

    The blog post was full of omissions, no mention of an experimental weapon slot (the dysons still lack this), bridge officer seating tranformation, ship mastery transformation, and the clear fact that some starship traits are made available free using the dilithium store if a Fed variant is unlocked.

    It isn't a console either, it's a starship trait.
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  • oliverrogerr#5018 oliverrogerr Member Posts: 78 Arc User
    It is a little strange to use this ship in a KDF, ^^
  • qultuqqultuq Member Posts: 318 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    > @alcyoneserene said:
    > @qultuq
    > Again, in your opinion it was intended. In my opinion and with actual official evidence, it was not. Sometimes it helps to clarify this to avoid people thinking one is intentionally spreading misinformation.
    >
    > The blog post was full of omissions, no mention of an experimental weapon slot (the dysons still lack this), bridge officer seating tranformation, ship mastery transformation, and the clear fact that some starship traits are made available free using the dilithium store if a Fed variant is unlocked.
    >
    > It isn't a console either, it's a starship trait.

    I appreciate your reasoning, and I am not claiming some conspiracy.

    I think faction-free ships are a good move for players and for Cryptic’s business. Intentional or not, is just a minor point of semantics.

    We should realistically assume this is a Pandora’s box that will open up a new precedent in the game.

    But here is one more argument. If it were actually a bug, and were it (presumably) a CBS-legal question, they sure got CBS approval quickly.

    One more consideration: the ship may have been planned to be opened up cross-factioned in the future. It may be a bug that it is open now. Kael may have not known either. My point is only suspicion.
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 5,836 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    qultuq wrote: »
    It was totally intended and was hinted at when the initial blog post said KDF could use the console.

    I disagree, I think the blog post was actually hinting at some new system that is coming in the future but is not ready to be announced.
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    If it were actually a bug, and were it (presumably) a CBS-legal question, they sure got CBS approval quickly.

    Considering how badly things could break if they pulled the ships from players that had already claimed it, it was probably pretty easy to explain to CBS that fixing it was simply not feasible, leaving it on the C-Store as-is is simply a matter of fairness to those who hadn't done it yet.
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  • szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,540 Arc User
    My conclusions after having run around with it:
    -The ship itself feels a lot like the dyson ships.. minus the special dyson ship-set stuff. The double lt.cmdr sci seats during tactical mode is a bit weird, but not in a bad way(considering one is a spec seat).

    -Trait was disappointingly underwhelming - further compounded by the summon only having a 90s duration. Probably need a bit more testing with a faster fleet-spam build, but I really can't justify the trait slot for it from what I've seen so far. The Superior Command Frequency Trait (from Command Spec) is a much better choice if you want to summon Battleship grade pets - it lasts longer and provides more ships. (I ran both at the same time, and, again, found the trait to be very underwhelming compared to other pet-spam options.)

    -Console is pretty amazing and far surpassed my already lofty expectations. The mass Disable-spam completely shuts down everything in your forward cone for a pretty lengthy amount of time(no shields, no movement, no weapons, no ability-spam; more than enough time to kill them before the systems come back online). You get 3 staggered salvos per activation, and it's completely disgusting what you can do with it on those infinite-spawn/timed combat objectives. The Tactical Mode version of the salvos is.. okay; a bit more flashy than amazing(especially compared to the science/default mode). The passives are also a great addition to any kind of dps build.
  • smokebaileysmokebailey Member Posts: 4,130 Arc User
    edited November 2020
    Still cannot find the fleet version of Titan on KDF, anywhere. I checked all the Tier tabs, tried unchecking all the ship types, tried both KDF fleet shipyard and Qonos shipyard. I do own the C-Store variant, so should be seeing one for 1 FSM but it's missing. (yes, KDF can fly this ship too as confirmed by Cryptic on twitter).

    Based on the wording of the tweet it sounds like it wasn't originally intended, they just decided to leave it as is rather than fix it. So the fleet version is probably working as originally intended, though you'd have to ask the devs if it's gonna stay that way.


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    I ALWAYS suggested something like this...being able to capture an enemy faction's ship (one per toon or account) and use it for their own. I'd would have done it via an event or something, with a randomly chosen, but good quality ship....but this is just as good.
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  • fallenkezef#4581 fallenkezef Member Posts: 633 Arc User
    Still cannot find the fleet version of Titan on KDF, anywhere. I checked all the Tier tabs, tried unchecking all the ship types, tried both KDF fleet shipyard and Qonos shipyard. I do own the C-Store variant, so should be seeing one for 1 FSM but it's missing. (yes, KDF can fly this ship too as confirmed by Cryptic on twitter).

    Based on the wording of the tweet it sounds like it wasn't originally intended, they just decided to leave it as is rather than fix it. So the fleet version is probably working as originally intended, though you'd have to ask the devs if it's gonna stay that way.


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    I ALWAYS suggested something like this...being able to capture an enemy faction's ship (one per toon or account) and use it for their own. I'd would have done it via an event or something, with a randomly chosen, but good quality ship....but this is just as good.

    Well the feddy bears stole one of our BoP, would not be surprised if they release a legendary fed only HMS Bounty. I wouldn't fly a feddybear garbage scow, but for roleplayers it's got a trojan horse element.
  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 3,632 Arc User
    szerontzur wrote: »
    -Console is pretty amazing and far surpassed my already lofty expectations. The mass Disable-spam completely shuts down everything in your forward cone for a pretty lengthy amount of time(no shields, no movement, no weapons, no ability-spam; more than enough time to kill them before the systems come back online). You get 3 staggered salvos per activation, and it's completely disgusting what you can do with it on those infinite-spawn/timed combat objectives. The Tactical Mode version of the salvos is.. okay; a bit more flashy than amazing(especially compared to the science/default mode). The passives are also a great addition to any kind of dps build.
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  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,218 Arc User
    Now, we just need a playable KDF human
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