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fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,031 Arc User
T6 Benthan Assault Cruiser
Corrosive Weapons Pack
Priors World Defense Satellite

Are going to be added to Mudd's store next Thursday.
Why has AFK'ing, exploiting and pressing as few buttons as possible been normalised in this game? Is it because it's the only way for many to keep the endless FOMO inducing events bearable? Then maybe change that. Game's a joke right now, allowing exploits just to boost the precious metrics.

Might return once real people are encouraged to be present.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,031 Arc User
    I guess the Benthan cruiser wasn't that interesting to many players.

    While it is a beautiful ship, I hardly ever see one.

    I'm not sure why they're adding the corrosive weapon packs though. If they're still working the way the lockbox ones work, it's still a gamble what you're actually going to get. If they're not going to let players select a certain type of weapon.
    Why has AFK'ing, exploiting and pressing as few buttons as possible been normalised in this game? Is it because it's the only way for many to keep the endless FOMO inducing events bearable? Then maybe change that. Game's a joke right now, allowing exploits just to boost the precious metrics.

    Might return once real people are encouraged to be present.
  • welcome2earfwelcome2earf Member Posts: 1,746 Arc User
    Aside from the Benthan flying backwards from what was depicted in-show (they decided to go with the original intent for some stupid reason), the trait is "meh", its kinda an ugly ship and is akin to a T5-U Excelsior. It DOES have a decent turn rate for cruisers. I ran one for a couple of years on my KDF Romulan. It was fun, but eventually better options came about: It seems that Mudd's Market will start clearing out the least-favorite of the T6's
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 5,718 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    I guess the Benthan cruiser wasn't that interesting to many players.

    While it is a beautiful ship, I hardly ever see one.

    I'm not sure why they're adding the corrosive weapon packs though. If they're still working the way the lockbox ones work, it's still a gamble what you're actually going to get. If they're not going to let players select a certain type of weapon.

    I guess I am one of the few who actually want one, but Mudd's Market makes it almost as inaccessible as it would be in the phoenix boxes because of the prices and my budget for gaming is practically nonexistent this time of year. If the ship coupon worked for Mudded ships I would grab it.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    I'm curious about the Benthan Cruiser, but -60% off of what price is what really determines it. Also, weren't previous BIG sales like -80% the prices or what that just a couple of things?

    Also, what is the: Corrosive Weapons Pack? Is it like the random gamble from Infinity lockbox & I think originally Delta lockbox? To me it seems odd to have that in Mudd's, if that is it. Maybe Cryptic created something cool like they did for the Elachi Qulash similar to that weapon pack.

    Even if I don't end-up getting the Benthan because of the price I think a good call on that ship. Anyone know if this Benthan has a unique bridge or not?
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    I guess the Benthan cruiser wasn't that interesting to many players.

    While it is a beautiful ship, I hardly ever see one.

    I'm not sure why they're adding the corrosive weapon packs though. If they're still working the way the lockbox ones work, it's still a gamble what you're actually going to get. If they're not going to let players select a certain type of weapon.

    It's a nice ship, but it is also one of the first T6 box ships and they had relatively low stats and mediocre layout.
    Fun ship. I should update the ancient phaser build i have on it.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • seriousdaveseriousdave Member Posts: 2,777 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    While it's interesting that a box ship straight up gets a store release (with a yet undisclosed price) I'm more curious about how that weapon pack will get handled. With how they've handled the mudd store so far I fully expect a ripoff like paying a considerable amount of zen just to get the old weapon box with 1 random pice of gear.
  • p331p331 Member Posts: 164 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    I'm curious about the Benthan Cruiser, but -60% off of what price is what really determines it. Also, weren't previous BIG sales like -80% the prices or what that just a couple of things?

    I'm guessing that full price for the ship will be 17000 zen like the others. With the discount of 60% that would be 6800 zen.
  • tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    is the picard pack going into MM as well or staying separate? I took a look at the benthan and is sucks imo... trait is junk and console is also junk. capped discount of 60% off is funny...
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    Gotta say that the corrosive weapons set
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Contractual_Agreement_Set#Corrosive_Plasma_Blast_Mine_Launcher

    Does look interesting on some builds. Not something for stellar DPS, but for some thematic builds it could be lots of fun.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • trennantrennan Member Posts: 2,839 Arc User
    YAY! More stuff for me not to buy! Like all the ships in the cstore.
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  • vongravenvongraven Member Posts: 116 Arc User
    It's definitely not the best T6 to offer imo. Cryptic, you can do better, I'm sure. Add something like Tarantula, Briostys, Crossfield, Styx, Keldon and I'll grab them for sure.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    It was probably one of the least picked T6 Ships from the Selection Box. Perhaps what we will be seeing is some items being moved out of Infinity and into Mudd's to reduce the plethora of clutter.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    I remember the corrosive weapons, but I don't remember if I unlocked them before or not (like one of the featured Sompek arena thing or something)…. So I have no idea if I'm supposed to already have them or not.

    Considering they don't grey out selections that you've already have through convention codes, etc. I hate buying something I already have.
  • captainbrian11captainbrian11 Member Posts: 733 Arc User
    are mudds ships a one time use or are they avalaible across account?
  • anodynesanodynes Member Posts: 1,999 Arc User
    I remember the corrosive weapons, but I don't remember if I unlocked them before or not (like one of the featured Sompek arena thing or something)…. So I have no idea if I'm supposed to already have them or not.

    Considering they don't grey out selections that you've already have through convention codes, etc. I hate buying something I already have.

    Corrosive Plasma weapons weren't from an event or mission, they were, like the Benthan Cruiser, a possible reward from the Delta Expedition Lock Box.
    This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
  • foppotee#4552 foppotee Member Posts: 1,704 Arc User
    p331 wrote: »
    I'm curious about the Benthan Cruiser, but -60% off of what price is what really determines it. Also, weren't previous BIG sales like -80% the prices or what that just a couple of things?

    I'm guessing that full price for the ship will be 17000 zen like the others. With the discount of 60% that would be 6800 zen.

    If it is at that price point then I'll pass. Cryptic seems to be using Mudd's as a rummage sale, which is perfectly fine, but not going to pay a super premium price for something old & not up to par with the newest releases regardless if it is a gamble ship. No good reason to become a ship collector since I can only pilot one at a time anyways, but that is just myself. The Benthan ship itself looks nice imo but nothing that stands out & that awes me.

    I'm still curious if that Corrosive Weapons pack will be something like Cryptic did for that Elachi Qulash & that Elachi disruptor weapon pack & at what price for that too. If it is just the same old normal lockbox Corrosive weapon pack then I'm guessing it will include one of those upgrade tokens to justify inflating the price.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Mudd's Market Ships are an Account Unlock. This is some speculation I had in another Thread above:

    'I'm wondering with the 60% sale instead of 80% that, that goes along with a general price reduction of items by 50%.

    An 18,000 item at 80% off is 3,600. But by cutting the 'list' price to 9,000 instead, at a 60% off, the sale price is the same at 3,600. This, I would think that they believe, would cut down on all the 'predatory pricing', 'Muggs Market', yadda, yadda, yadda talk on the Boards and maintain their same margins. (Except for those few that bought at list price and they would be partially saved from themselves, a 'goodwill' gesture).'
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,031 Arc User
    vongraven wrote: »
    It's definitely not the best T6 to offer imo. Cryptic, you can do better, I'm sure. Add something like Tarantula, Briostys, Crossfield, Styx, Keldon and I'll grab them for sure.

    Agreed on the Briostrys, still one of my favorite box-related ships. Together with the Vengeance, which I imagine many people would also buy if it came available through the C-store - that has to be the ship I see most often from the selection of rarer ones.
    Why has AFK'ing, exploiting and pressing as few buttons as possible been normalised in this game? Is it because it's the only way for many to keep the endless FOMO inducing events bearable? Then maybe change that. Game's a joke right now, allowing exploits just to boost the precious metrics.

    Might return once real people are encouraged to be present.
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    I remember the corrosive weapons, but I don't remember if I unlocked them before or not (like one of the featured Sompek arena thing or something)…. So I have no idea if I'm supposed to already have them or not.

    Considering they don't grey out selections that you've already have through convention codes, etc. I hate buying something I already have.

    Look at the article and particularly at the phrase "legal hunting", it is the hazari set.
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Contractual_Agreement_Set#Corrosive_Plasma_Blast_Mine_Launcher
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • paladinrja#5247 paladinrja Member Posts: 155 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    The Hazari weapons have a wicked, increasing hull DoT on them that heavily favours Eng / MW, EPS focused builds and result in generally reliable anti-tank weapons.They couple well with the Ferenginar gear actually, and are pretty much the only other way to reliably melt Tzenkethi, aside from Standoff. -- By yourself.

    Where Altmid / Caustic seem to do well enough on their own for Tac; and Partcile Emissions / Isolytic rely on EPS, drain / control respectively. The new Assimilated beams bolster both; and Mycelial / Romy rep stuff makes up on short comings, all round.

    I'm curious to see what the Corrosive pack actually is. One can already get the weapons from lockbox weapon choice packs. So I'm hoping this contains a console. -- Obviously the Law & Order, Contractual agreement sets are the antithesis to these weapons; providing a clear way to survive while your corrosive weapons are munching hull.

    Of note: its only behind these weapons that I've ever managed to get the Ion Stream Projector to actually do anything noteworthy.

    All that said, ultimately it only matters if you "get it" and have been generally working towards such a build anyway, just waiting for something like this to bring it together (and it absolutely will!). -- wrapped up in the Starfleet Assault Cruiser tech set, on the Intel Assault Cruiser, suddenly all makes sense.

    I was actually wondering why they were giving away the Borg Eng Boff in the recent promo. Now I know. Put her to work as Intel.

    Update:
    Yeah, the Corrosive Plasma Weapons pack is a full account unlock. You may take as many as you like after purchase, but they are bound to character (box & item). Each box has a complete list, choice of weapon, so no rng at all. -- I like it, the whole thing is noice and neat. No mess, no fuss.
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  • echattyechatty Member Posts: 5,916 Arc User
    are mudds ships a one time use or are they avalaible across account?

    Account-wide. Phoenix box ships are character bound.
    Now a LTS and loving it.
    Just because you spend money on this game, it does not entitle you to be a jerk if things don't go your way.
    I have come to the conclusion that I have a memory like Etch-A-Sketch. I shake my head and forget everything. :D
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    Since a Pack of Weapons is a bit light for the C-Store, I wonder if getting it provides an Account Unlock to buy them in the Dilithium Store.
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    ltminns wrote: »
    Since a Pack of Weapons is a bit light for the C-Store, I wonder if getting it provides an Account Unlock to buy them in the Dilithium Store.

    It's a (soon to be former?) lobi set if i am not mistaken.
    Depending on the cost i might purchase it myself if it is account unlock despite it being a rather ancient set.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,211 Arc User
    I was never interested in the Benthan ship, in fact most of the lockbox ships from around the Delta Rising period. I just really don't like their stats.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I was never interested in the Benthan ship, in fact most of the lockbox ships from around the Delta Rising period. I just really don't like their stats.

    The bentan is decent, but the hazari ship is a solid escort. maybe a bit dated compared to all the new fancy stuff, but it is a solid ship.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 2,482 Arc User
    I have a Hazari Destroyer. It is a good ship, and nice for a sciencey escort, but definitely dated. I can't say I'm the least bit interested in the Benthan cruiser though. The console set is just as dated, and the cruiser is nothing special.
  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 12,572 Arc User
    > @questerius said:
    > (Quote)
    >
    > It's a (soon to be former?) lobi set if i am not mistaken.
    > Depending on the cost i might purchase it myself if it is account unlock despite it being a rather ancient set.

    It's Lockbox Weapons (Delta, now Infinity).
    'But to be logical is not to be right', and 'nothing' on God's earth could ever 'make it' right!'
    Judge Dan Haywood
    'As l speak now, the words are forming in my head.
    l don't know.
    l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
    That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
    Lt. Philip J. Minns
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,456 Arc User
    Cannot imagine it being this piece of tribble:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Special_Equipment_Pack_-_Corrosive_Plasma_Weapons

    It's got to be the hazari set instead. The hazari set would also make sense with the remark about legal hunting.
    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
  • saber1973asaber1973a Member Posts: 1,225 Arc User
    edited April 2020
    questerius wrote: »
    Cannot imagine it being this piece of tribble:
    https://sto.gamepedia.com/Special_Equipment_Pack_-_Corrosive_Plasma_Weapons

    It's got to be the hazari set instead. The hazari set would also make sense with the remark about legal hunting.

    Just logged to game and checked.

    Bad news - it is actually pack of 6 Corrosive Plasma Weapons - I think they are not random but by choice, and the pack is reclaimable (I think so states the shop description), so there is some worth in them, but not enough for me - I pass.

    To whoever will get the pack though - more power - and fun - to you.

    Edit:
    I see - a full account unlock, reclaimable plasma weapons - this may be just worth it… let me check my reserves, and maybe I will change my mind and get it .
    Post edited by saber1973a on
  • captainwellscaptainwells Member Posts: 718 Arc User
    I'm curious about the Benthan Cruiser, but -60% off of what price is what really determines it. Also, weren't previous BIG sales like -80% the prices or what that just a couple of things?

    Yes. They had been 80% until this one.

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