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is buying a jem hadar ship the only way to get the polaron boosting set now?

seems like operation gamma and of bajor are no longer available.
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  • somtaawkharsomtaawkhar Member Posts: 6,615 Arc User
    Both are in the available tab where they have been for some time.
  • kaithan1975kaithan1975 Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    Of Bajor is there so I assume Gamma would be as well.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member Posts: 49,070 Arc User
    All of The 2800 series are still in game and available. They are just not part of the pain story anymore and put under the Available tab rather than the Episode tab.

    Bit annoying though. Maybe they should just add a Featured Episode tab or something for those missions. Less clutter when you consider some of the other things in the Available tab that aren't story mission related.
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  • vetteguy904vetteguy904 Member Posts: 2,731 Arc User
    Kimiko... look for Lost Dominion under Adm Jorel if that toon has never played the episodes.
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 1,794 Arc User
    Also doesn't the set from "Home" (the mission that is) Boost Polaron damage as well and that is in the main story, it's the climax of the Gamma Quadrant arc in fact. At least my main uses that set for the benefits to polaron builds and I've not bought any JM ships for any of my characters.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 8,222 Arc User
    edited November 19
    While the missions are still there.. lets address the real issue here..

    If you're using the Jem'Hadar space set to boost your polaron damage.. you're already on the wrong track. Aside from being sub par as a set overall, the 2pc only provides a 16.4% boost which is on the low side to begin with. If you're going to be using Polaron, you're much better off using a better space set and boosting Polaron with other sets.

    A lot has been added to boost Polaron since the Dominion Arc. It used to be pathectic, and now Polaron is actually pretty good. If you're looking to boost Polaron, you're better off looking into things like:

    Ordnance Accelerator - Gives you 20% boost. You can combine it with the Omni/Torp/Turret from the same set for another 10% boost plus a boost to flight turn rate.

    Piezo Electric Focuser - 30% boost, plus a boost to flight turn rate and shield capacity. An overall excellent console and can be paired with the Beam or Cannon from the same set to give you another 15% boost.

    There is also the Chronometric Capacitor console which I am not a huge fan of.. but it's not bad for a mission reward item.

    Combine these with your other standard consoles that boost overall damage, provide haste, add critical hit/damage, etc.. and you can build a really nice Polaron based ship without having to use the extremely underwhelming Jem'Hadar Space Set. Frankly, the Jem'Hadar space sets best use.. is as a cosmetic item for Jem'Hadar ships. You can easily find better, don't knock yourself out trying to obtain this set, it's just not worth it.
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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 5,498 Arc User
    edited November 19
    spiritborn wrote: »
    Also doesn't the set from "Home" (the mission that is) Boost Polaron damage as well and that is in the main story, it's the climax of the Gamma Quadrant arc in fact. At least my main uses that set for the benefits to polaron builds and I've not bought any JM ships for any of my characters.

    Yep Shim! Besides the good stuff that @seaofsorrows elaborates the Morphogenic Armaments set is one of the strongest sets available. For most performance players I know it’s a default to slot option on polaron (and often on EPG and/or Torpedo) builds.

    Sadly the old Jem’Hadar space set is only worth to put in the visual slot nowadays. Has been for ages compared to the alternatives we had over the years.
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  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 8,222 Arc User
    Man.. can't believe I forgot to list the Morphogenic set.. thanks Pete! :smiley:
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  • kaithan1975kaithan1975 Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    All of The 2800 series are still in game and available. They are just not part of the pain story anymore and put under the Available tab rather than the Episode tab.

    Bit annoying though. Maybe they should just add a Featured Episode tab or something for those missions. Less clutter when you consider some of the other things in the Available tab that aren't story mission related.

    They are all there, but if it's your first time you do have to play the entire story arc in order which is a pain if your after the dominion beams or cannons.
    Yep Shim! Besides the good stuff that @seaofsorrows elaborates the Morphogenic Armaments set is one of the strongest sets available. For most performance players I know it’s a default to slot option on polaron (and often on EPG and/or Torpedo) builds.

    Sadly the old Jem’Hadar space set is only worth to put in the visual slot nowadays. Has been for ages compared to the alternatives we had over the years.

    Doing 'Home' for the Morphogenic set is as painful as doing the '2800' arc for the Jem'Hadar set.



  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,878 Arc User
    edited November 19
    rattler2 wrote: »
    All of The 2800 series are still in game and available. They are just not part of the pain story anymore and put under the Available tab rather than the Episode tab.

    Bit annoying though. Maybe they should just add a Featured Episode tab or something for those missions. Less clutter when you consider some of the other things in the Available tab that aren't story mission related.

    They are all there, but if it's your first time you do have to play the entire story arc in order which is a pain if your after the dominion beams or cannons.
    Yep Shim! Besides the good stuff that @seaofsorrows elaborates the Morphogenic Armaments set is one of the strongest sets available. For most performance players I know it’s a default to slot option on polaron (and often on EPG and/or Torpedo) builds.

    Sadly the old Jem’Hadar space set is only worth to put in the visual slot nowadays. Has been for ages compared to the alternatives we had over the years.

    Doing 'Home' for the Morphogenic set is as painful as doing the '2800' arc for the Jem'Hadar set.

    Disagree. Firstly, as you said, the 2800 is an Arc. An arc containing some (in my opinion) really tedious episodes. The fact that, as previous posts have noted, the set on offer from playing that arc is sub-par (to say the least) gives one little motivation to replay it.

    'Home' is only one episode and whist it's a fairly long one it is at least engaging. If you have to repeat an episode for a set as good as the Morphogenic Armaments, it does help that the episode isn't a tedious mess like 'Operation Gamma'.

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  • peterconnorfirstpeterconnorfirst Member Posts: 5,498 Arc User
    edited November 19
    Man.. can't believe I forgot to list the Morphogenic set.. thanks Pete! :smiley:

    No need to Sea, I would have forgotten about the Task Force Ordnances set though I would not want to miss out its bonus. Hehe, we have too much stuff in STO by now. :#
    reyan01 wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    All of The 2800 series are still in game and available. They are just not part of the pain story anymore and put under the Available tab rather than the Episode tab.

    Bit annoying though. Maybe they should just add a Featured Episode tab or something for those missions. Less clutter when you consider some of the other things in the Available tab that aren't story mission related.

    They are all there, but if it's your first time you do have to play the entire story arc in order which is a pain if your after the dominion beams or cannons.
    Yep Shim! Besides the good stuff that @seaofsorrows elaborates the Morphogenic Armaments set is one of the strongest sets available. For most performance players I know it’s a default to slot option on polaron (and often on EPG and/or Torpedo) builds.

    Sadly the old Jem’Hadar space set is only worth to put in the visual slot nowadays. Has been for ages compared to the alternatives we had over the years.

    Doing 'Home' for the Morphogenic set is as painful as doing the '2800' arc for the Jem'Hadar set.

    Disagree. Firstly, as you said, the 2800 is an Arc. An arc containing some (in my opinion) really tedious episodes. The fact that, as previous posts have noted, the set on offer from playing that arc is sub-par (to say the least) gives one little motivation to replay it.

    'Home' is only one episode and whist it's a fairly long one it is at least engaging. If you have to repeat an episode for a set as good as the Morphogenic Armaments, it does help that the episode isn't a tedious mess like 'Operation Gamma'.

    I also consider free gear to be cool. We often get complaints about pay2win. Sure, powercreep advanced far in this title but cryptic has always been fair as far as its origins are concerned. If a mission to re-play is too much to ask for, its not on them. :)
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    felisean wrote: »
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  • kaithan1975kaithan1975 Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Disagree. Firstly, as you said, the 2800 is an Arc. An arc containing some (in my opinion) really tedious episodes. The fact that, as previous posts have noted, the set on offer from playing that arc is sub-par (to say the least) gives one little motivation to replay it.

    'Home' is only one episode and whist it's a fairly long one it is at least engaging. If you have to repeat an episode for a set as good as the Morphogenic Armaments, it does help that the episode isn't a tedious mess like 'Operation Gamma'.

    Home is engaging the first time you do it, any time thereafter it's tedious.
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 8,222 Arc User
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.

    I frequently replay it just for fun, I know it's long.. but it's very well done and I enjoy it. I have no idea why anyone would find it 'tedious' outside of the length.

    It's a great mission.
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  • kaithan1975kaithan1975 Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    edited November 19
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.

    I frequently replay it just for fun, I know it's long.. but it's very well done and I enjoy it. I have no idea why anyone would find it 'tedious' outside of the length.

    It's a great mission.

    It's all a matter of perspective and opinion. As good as it is I certainly wouldn't do it for fun no more than I would do Gamma or Boldly for fun. :)
  • seaofsorrowsseaofsorrows Member Posts: 8,222 Arc User
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.

    I frequently replay it just for fun, I know it's long.. but it's very well done and I enjoy it. I have no idea why anyone would find it 'tedious' outside of the length.

    It's a great mission.

    It's all a matter of perspective and opinion. As good as it is I certainly wouldn't do it for fun no more than I would do Gamma or Boldly for fun. :)

    Fair enough, I certainly don't expect everyone to like it.. I personally enjoy it. :smile:

    Even if someone finds Home to be a grind.. the Morphogenic Set is honestly worth it. It's a great set.
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  • foxrockssocksfoxrockssocks Member Posts: 739 Arc User
    For Home, the battle on the planet can be largely skipped if you just run to the end. You still have that final battle sequence, but you can skip everything on the long walk there. Boffs should be put on passive, but even then they might all die.
  • kaithan1975kaithan1975 Member Posts: 500 Arc User
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.Fair enough, I certainly don't expect everyone to like it.. I personally enjoy it. :smile:

    Even if someone finds Home to be a grind.. the Morphogenic Set is honestly worth it. It's a great set.

    Definitely, no dispute there. I'm just a little jaded on it at the moment since doing it for the set and Boldly for the Dominion cannons.
  • coldnapalmcoldnapalm Member Posts: 7,712 Arc User
    Meh...if you find Home a grind to run, do it while you have the endeavor for kill attendants up and you can kill two birds with one stone.
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 5,069 Arc User
    nixie50 wrote: »
    seems like operation gamma and of bajor are no longer available.

    It's not April 1st! Don't get us excited for the removal of Of Bajor unless it is really going to happen! :P
  • reyan01reyan01 Member Posts: 12,878 Arc User
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.

    I frequently replay it just for fun, I know it's long.. but it's very well done and I enjoy it. I have no idea why anyone would find it 'tedious' outside of the length.

    It's a great mission.

    It's all a matter of perspective and opinion. As good as it is I certainly wouldn't do it for fun no more than I would do Gamma or Boldly for fun. :)

    Fair enough, I certainly don't expect everyone to like it.. I personally enjoy it. :smile:

    Even if someone finds Home to be a grind.. the Morphogenic Set is honestly worth it. It's a great set.

    Same - if I do replay episodes, there are a few I won't go anywhere near. By the same token, I do have 'go-to' ones when I do find myself doing replays, and two I generally favour above all others are 'Home' and 'Midnight'.
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  • phoenixc#0738 phoenixc Member Posts: 921 Arc User
    edited November 19
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Home is one of the best story missions in the game.

    I frequently replay it just for fun, I know it's long.. but it's very well done and I enjoy it. I have no idea why anyone would find it 'tedious' outside of the length.

    It's a great mission.

    It's all a matter of perspective and opinion. As good as it is I certainly wouldn't do it for fun no more than I would do Gamma or Boldly for fun. :)

    Fair enough, I certainly don't expect everyone to like it.. I personally enjoy it. :smile:

    Even if someone finds Home to be a grind.. the Morphogenic Set is honestly worth it. It's a great set.

    Same - if I do replay episodes, there are a few I won't go anywhere near. By the same token, I do have 'go-to' ones when I do find myself doing replays, and two I generally favour above all others are 'Home' and 'Midnight'.

    I used to do the same with "Spectres", it is long and has a few tedious spots (like the replicator repair thing) but overall it is one of the best of the old style missions.

    I actually used to look forward to it, but I've not run it much since they moved it, especially since you can now get phasers appropriate to TOS from the exchange (yes, they are red but red was almost as common as blue in TOS), and the green Undine phasers even fit though the green phaser effects were by chance only used for stun setting (and then not very often), though neither of them sound right. At level 30 or thereabouts it was positioned just right to keep a TOS character IN character with the Andorian twin arrays, and it completed a reference loop nicely (I will not spoiler it here) for those characters, things that are weakened or negated by the current obscure level 65 gate.

    As for the OP's question, another factor is that (with only one exception so far) Jem'Hadar ships are unusable by non-hornytoad characters until those ships are leveled up to the fifth trait, which unlocks the particular ship for the other factions, so if you do not run any toads you are out of luck.
  • davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 7,429 Arc User
    edited November 19
    , especially since you can now get phasers appropriate to TOS from the exchange (yes, they are red but red was almost as common as blue in TOS),

    I think you can get blue phasers (the type 2 pistol style with grip) and the pink rifle phasers from the exchange too, since white mark 1s can be purchased by TOS captains before the time jump.

  • nixie50nixie50 Member Posts: 502 Arc User
    Tahnk you all. @vetteguy904 I found it like you said . and i DO want that set. it along with the morphogenic 2 pcset torpedo and controller and the jem haradr engines and deflecor will make a pretty good punch. the game is easy enough that ven with a 2 pc warp core and shield , maybe the pre-eminet set, I will bring enough oomph to the fight and make my jemnaught be as canon as possible.
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  • ltminnsltminns Member Posts: 10,052 Arc User
    'Home' and 'Midnight' I use as my go to's in the Mission Log for Killing H'urq and Herald Ships. Have the Episodes poised right at the start of the respective space battles. Quick free Transwarp, in and out in a few minutes even at the Hard Endeavor level.
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  • w00qw00q Member Posts: 111 Arc User
    Wow, so the 2800 story arc is still there under the [Available] Tab?
    Thought STO had deleted this story arc...

    And the Breen Missions and Badlands in similar situation?
    Great!!

    Honestly, who's bright idea is it to split up the PvE missions [Episode] and [Available] tabs??

    I've been around since STO Beta, go to this official website almost everyday, and still
    I felt that this major decision to split up the PvE missions [Episode] and [Available] tabs
    had not been communicated to me!
  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 3,476 Arc User
    w00q wrote: »
    Wow, so the 2800 story arc is still there under the [Available] Tab?
    Thought STO had deleted this story arc...

    And the Breen Missions and Badlands in similar situation?
    Great!!

    Honestly, who's bright idea is it to split up the PvE missions [Episode] and [Available] tabs??

    I've been around since STO Beta, go to this official website almost everyday, and still
    I felt that this major decision to split up the PvE missions [Episode] and [Available] tabs
    had not been communicated to me!

    There was a big deal made about this when it happened....it was very hard to miss if you frequented ANY STO social network or forum, with many a request to revert the Arcs back into the main Episodic list.
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  • autumnraynefyrautumnraynefyr Member Posts: 33 Bug Hunter
    All of the "removed" featured episodes such as Breen Invasion, Lost Dominion and Spectres unlock now at lvl. 65. The Nimbus arc is available after completing a specific quest on the episodes list and you need to around I think lvl 25+ or something like that. Romulans have the Nimbus arc in their story quests still but its a "sidequest" of sorts for other factions...
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