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"Calm Amidst the Storm"

ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael
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Fraternizing within Starfleet isn't forbidden, but it's never easy. Amna Patel and Ellen Landry learn that firsthand in our latest fiction blog.

https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/11159863

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  • tymerstotymersto Member Posts: 433 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Makes ya wonder what Mirror Patel's life was like before being Security Chief under Killy's Command?
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,370 Arc User
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    Patel is so dead

    Considering she's a crew member of the Buran, so unless she's seconded on duty off-the-ship it's no secret that she'll be dead by the end of the storyline as the Buran was lost with all hands (all survivors were not on the ship when it went down).
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,581 Community Moderator
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    Patel is so dead

    Yup. And thus Hardass, Angry Landry.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • val#9932 val
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    Fingerless gloves, really!?
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    let's hope this blog doesn't trigger another forum meltdown like the one that happened in the aftermath of House Pegh's release...that was horrible​​
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  • simpleenthusiast#3086 simpleenthusiast
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    edited May 2019
    I really, really, really, hope this doesn't turn into a "bury your gays" trope.... we had enough of that in Discovery already.|

    Edit: wow really? that's censored? okay then
    Lore posts are great, but give us real info first please!
  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    silentescapade wrote: »
    I really, really, really, hope this doesn't turn into a "bury your TRIBBLE" trope.... we had enough of that in Discovery already.|

    Edit: wow really? that's censored? okay then

    Hmmm, I always thought that "TRIBBLE" was the in-thing for people to use for self-censoring.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,581 Community Moderator
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    let's hope this blog doesn't trigger another forum meltdown like the one that happened in the aftermath of House Pegh's release...that was horrible​​

    Its the Forums Shadow. ANY excuse for a meltdown. Hell... there was a frickin' meltdown after Facility 4028 because the prision AI was named ISIS. Someone outright DEMANDED that be changed because of the Terrorist group. Guess people also forget about the Ancient Egyptian Goddess who had that name FIRST.

    So yea... bet there will be a meltdown of some kind.
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    Yang Xiao Long wrote:
    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
  • velquavelqua Member Posts: 1,220 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    let's hope this blog doesn't trigger another forum meltdown like the one that happened in the aftermath of House Pegh's release...that was horrible​​

    Up until that point, we really didn't hear much of a lezvian Klingon couple, so it was unexpected. With STDisco, it's a free for all, so I doubt we will see a meltdown like House Pegh.

    Edit: Wow, so we are redacting words with TRIBBLE. There's something you don't see every day.

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  • ambassadorkael#6946 ambassadorkael
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    Hey folks - I didn't realize "TRIBBLE" and "gays" were censored on the forum - from before my time. I know WHY, but I'm uncensoring them for now unless we get a flood of people being really immature and using those words as insults.
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    about time someone does something about that...while you're at it, how about removing the word s.crew from the censor as well...because seriously, it's a COMMON word that happens to also have a vulgar use as slang​​
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    #LegalizeAwoo

    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
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    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
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    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    Try talking about how to open a door. Or the author of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? :lol:
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,370 Arc User
    silentescapade wrote: »
    I really, really, really, hope this doesn't turn into a "bury your gays" trope.... we had enough of that in Discovery already.|

    Edit: wow really? that's censored? okay then

    Honestly I had no problems with Culbert's death in season 1 of Discovery, he died because he was the MD who discovered Voq, just because he was also a TRIBBLE man shouldn't make him immortal. Honestly brinning back Culbert was in my honest option one of the biggest missteps of season 2. In my opinion it would been much better to show Stamets slowly getting over his grief while still remaining TRIBBLE, aka treat it like you would a straight relationship. Personally I see the "TRIBBLE characters cannot die" as dark mirror of the "bury the gays", "bury the gays" isn't "a TRIBBLE character dies", but rather "a TRIBBLE character dies as punishment for being TRIBBLE".

    Now we know Landry will die due to her own stupidy of taunting a creature she knew can tear thru starship bulkheads, as for Petel again we know that she'll most likely die since she's a crewmember of the Buran a ship we know is lost with all hands.

    In the end it depends on how it's depicted, if it's depicted so that Petel's death seems like a punishment towards Landry for choosing another woman as her partner then it's a bad thing. However if it's depicted in such a way that Petel's gender is irrelevant to the story and it's more about loosing a loved one regardless of gender it's not as bad.

    Oh and before you accuse me of anything I'm bi so I'd rather see discrimination towards LGBTQ+ people end but I also know making them "something that needs to be sheltered and protected at all costs" isn't the way to do it.
  • woerligenwoerligen Member Posts: 262 Arc User
    The blog mentions Conestoga-class transports. Is this the class name for the troop transports we've seen in the last TFO?
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  • spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,370 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    woerligen wrote: »
    The blog mentions Conestoga-class transports. Is this the class name for the troop transports we've seen in the last TFO?
    possibly, or it could be a reference to TOS, either way a nice touch.

    EDIT:could we please get the common terms for men and women who attracted to the same gender uncensored at least for this thread, as it makes discussing the blog rather painful when it has that style of relationship but you cannot discuss it without half you post being censored.
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  • lorien506lorien506 Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    spiritborn wrote: »
    silentescapade wrote: »
    I really, really, really, hope this doesn't turn into a "bury your gays" trope.... we had enough of that in Discovery already.|

    Edit: wow really? that's censored? okay then

    Honestly I had no problems with Culbert's death in season 1 of Discovery, he died because he was the MD who discovered Voq, just because he was also a TRIBBLE man shouldn't make him immortal. Honestly brinning back Culbert was in my honest option one of the biggest missteps of season 2. In my opinion it would been much better to show Stamets slowly getting over his grief while still remaining TRIBBLE, aka treat it like you would a straight relationship. Personally I see the "TRIBBLE characters cannot die" as dark mirror of the "bury the gays", "bury the gays" isn't "a TRIBBLE character dies", but rather "a TRIBBLE character dies as punishment for being TRIBBLE".

    Now we know Landry will die due to her own stupidy of taunting a creature she knew can tear thru starship bulkheads, as for Petel again we know that she'll most likely die since she's a crewmember of the Buran a ship we know is lost with all hands.

    In the end it depends on how it's depicted, if it's depicted so that Petel's death seems like a punishment towards Landry for choosing another woman as her partner then it's a bad thing. However if it's depicted in such a way that Petel's gender is irrelevant to the story and it's more about loosing a loved one regardless of gender it's not as bad.

    Oh and before you accuse me of anything I'm bi so I'd rather see discrimination towards LGBTQ+ people end but I also know making them "something that needs to be sheltered and protected at all costs" isn't the way to do it.

    I absolutely agree with you, thank you. I am "TRIBBLE" myself and I can't stand it, that in 2019 this is again treated by the media and Hollywood in particular in our days as something outstanding and a character trade that is somewhat special. All this current ongoing debate about progressiveness and political correctness is so outdated in my mind. We had all this in the 1990s and I really thought we covered all of it and got passed it. I can't stand it any more that this got so viral and now it seems it is an integral part of every other movie/game or comic that is published these days. Can't we just have nice things again that aren't covered in this political agenda?
  • allyoftheforceallyoftheforce Member Posts: 736 Arc User
    lorien506 wrote: »
    I absolutely agree with you, thank you. I am "TRIBBLE" myself and I can't stand it, that in 2019 this is again treated by the media and Hollywood in particular in our days as something outstanding and a character trade that is somewhat special. All this current ongoing debate about progressiveness and political correctness is so outdated in my mind. We had all this in the 1990s and I really thought we covered all of it and got passed it. I can't stand it any more that this got so viral and now it seems it is an integral part of every other movie/game or comic that is published these days. Can't we just have nice things again that aren't covered in this political agenda?

    Banner waving for the sake of banner waving, that's exactly what it is. It's not about a cause, it's about making a buck off of it. Don't think I ever hit the escape button faster watching that cutscene with them two in it.
  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    Can't we just have nice things again that aren't covered in this political agenda?

    please describe these 'nice things' in great detail.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,120 Arc User
    allyoftheforce wrote: »
    Banner waving for the sake of banner waving, that's exactly what it is.

    Nope.
    allyoftheforce wrote: »
    It's not about a cause, it's about making a buck off of it.

    Or depicting a normal life situation, giving characters a background, things that happen in fiction. The whole scenario could play out just the same with a heterosexual couple (either being the male), or an all male pairing. So why not hetero? Well, no reason to, same as there is no reason not to sometimes not pick hetero.
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    let's hope this blog doesn't trigger another forum meltdown like the one that happened in the aftermath of House Pegh's release...that was horrible​​

    Whoopsie.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,485 Arc User
    shadowfang240 wrote: »
    let's hope this blog doesn't trigger another forum meltdown like the one that happened in the aftermath of House Pegh's release...that was horrible​​

    Don't YOU think this is rather reverse stereotyping? Strong and independent women.. those have to be TRIBBLE! (Not my opinion, but that is how it is portrayed.. again!)
    Is this even something from Discovery or even necessary for the development of the story line?
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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan
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    i literally have no idea what the TRIBBLE you are even ranting about, but i really, REALLY do not appreciate being falsely accused of stereotyping ANYONE

    you have 10 minutes to retract that post before i report it for flaming​​
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    A normie goes "Oh, what's this?"
    An otaku goes "UwU, what's this?"
    A furry goes "OwO, what's this?"
    A werewolf goes "Awoo, what's this?"

    "It's nothing personal, I just don't feel like I've gotten to know a person until I've sniffed their crotch."
    "We said 'no' to Mr. Curiosity. We're not home. Curiosity is not welcome, it is not to be invited in. Curiosity...is bad. It gets you in trouble, it gets you killed, and more importantly...it makes you poor!"
    Passion and Serenity are one.
    I gain power by understanding both.
    In the chaos of their battle, I bring order.
    I am a shadow, darkness born from light.
    The Force is united within me.
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 10,897 Community Moderator
    I find it ironic that in expressing concern that flaming not start over the inclusion of the Landry/Patel romantic relationship, that it seems to have done just that. So, can we just not do that and move on, please? Thank you.
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,485 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Since the ten minutes have passed i take it you unnecessarily made a report about flaming. It was neither an insult nor a flame, but a question.

    When women were first starting to chase a career it was often falsely suggested that they would not be interested in men. Do you feel that the link between the strong and independent female characters and their relationship mirrors that old unjust stereotype? With both there is a link between female success and their preferences.
    That is what i meant with the reverse stereotype.

    Something similar happened in the episode of house Pegh where one of the Klingon women had a rather abrasive personality while the other had a soft personality. That is also a stereotype how that type of relation between women is often portrayed.

    While i feel that the intentions of the writers are good, the way it is brought forwards is IMO not helpful in eliminating various stereotypes.

    Edit: Missed baddmoonrizin his post while i was trying to carefully phrase my post. No foul intended.
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  • sheldonlcoopersheldonlcooper Member Posts: 4,042 Arc User
    summoning the trolls was indeed a terrible idea. i think this thread would have actually skated by had that not been done.

    for questerius - i mean, we don't know enough about Landry in the show. She was one of the least developed characters for me. I guess they're trying to give her some story here. I guess Michael is a pretty good independent hetero.

    But this all makes me say, man Janeway was awesome.
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  • jonsillsjonsills Member Posts: 10,460 Arc User
    edited May 2019
    Why should strong women not be g.ay? What's wrong with it?

    I mean, my niece and her wife are both professionals in their fields, and are also into muay thai, with my niece parlaying that into amateur MMA contests - does that mean they shouldn't have gotten married, because they're both strong women?
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  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,485 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    somtaawkhar wrote: »
    Patel is so dead

    Yup. And thus Hardass, Angry Landry.

    There is always temporal recruitment..

    This program, though reasonably normal at times, seems to have a strong affinity to classes belonging to the Cat 2.0 program. Questerius 2.7 will break down on occasion, resulting in garbage and nonsense messages whenever it occurs. Usually a hard reboot or pulling the plug solves the problem when that happens.
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