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(Borg) Red Alerts and its reward
questerius
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With a Borg red Alert this weekend i feel i have to ask: Does anyone think that the Red Alerts (Borg and otherwise) are worth playing?
I'm looking at the categories: Fun and Reward for expended playtime.
Personally i feel that they're a massive waste of time.
The Red Alerts were always easy and with the power creep they have become completely brain dead content. The only exception for difficulty is the Tzenketti RA with the torpedoes and that one is annoying due to the fail condition and characterization of the Tzenketti as opponents.
Reward wise the Red Alerts are also seriously under-performing despite having no cool-down. 35 marks with no option for a daily bonus is a joke especially compared to the Random TFO's.
I would argue that bringing back the daily bonus would be a start to give the Red Alerts some much needed CPR.
How does everyone else feel about them?
I'm looking at the categories: Fun and Reward for expended playtime.
Personally i feel that they're a massive waste of time.
The Red Alerts were always easy and with the power creep they have become completely brain dead content. The only exception for difficulty is the Tzenketti RA with the torpedoes and that one is annoying due to the fail condition and characterization of the Tzenketti as opponents.
Reward wise the Red Alerts are also seriously under-performing despite having no cool-down. 35 marks with no option for a daily bonus is a joke especially compared to the Random TFO's.
I would argue that bringing back the daily bonus would be a start to give the Red Alerts some much needed CPR.
How does everyone else feel about them?
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I find it fun, though much less so when there are very high DPS team-mates. I also miss the days when once in a while you could end up soloing the alert.
The Borg RA also used to be a good way to level up ship masteries, but didn't they remove the XP bonus?
I probably forgot because since they aren't around all the time, I'm not reminded. I really miss having them there as an option. Oh well, guess those plans of sitting down and getting some marks will be cancelled for something else then. Something likely not in STO.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Nope.
For me, their appeal was being able to run multiple toons once a day through the RA to get ship XP and the daily mark bonus. Running the RA multiple times a day on one toon is inefficient. Random TFOs work better.
Also, I've pretty much given up on doing anything w/ my alt toons anymore.
Since then? I've run them maybe once or twice when they pop up for nostalgia value.
- Easy Source of Bonus Marks
- Build Test against blowing up the two Tarantalus or the Tactical Cube.
The latter is technically still possible, but only if the event is actually on. The NPCs I chose for my test were basically "standard candles", but if I can't use them regularly, the "standad" has less meaning. And of course, Bonus Marks are gone.
The Borg Red Alert might still be worth it a bit, since it doesn't take all that long.
Now, I never go there because the rewards suck and because they are only on select weekends I just never think about them anymore.
I really wish they would return the RAs back to the way they were before this stupid change.
Other than testing builds and leveling ships back in the day, the RAs are still useful for getting all those alternate reps going that are short a few points of currency but simply not worth spending much time on until after the primary reps are leveled to the point needed for whatever gear one is going for. That is especially true with the Borg RA since it is infamous for late starts that can mean the whole thing is over in twenty seconds and you still get the thirty five points.
I think they should leave them in as something to do when bored.
What I would rather have is the old hourly event schedule. That was so much fun. When they removed that, players that finished all the missions available, and had their reps up all the way (or already had plenty of marks and Dil) had to find ways to keep themselves entertained. I remember sitting in the game for 30-45 mins sometimes chatting with friends as we were waiting for the next event to come around. And the old Mirror event was a lot of fun too. Especially for new players/toons.
So much has changed. A lot of it is an improvement. But there is also a lot that was a step in the wrong direction. The sad thing is that as long as companies continue looking at numbers, they lose sight of what really draws players to games. And with the Foundry now gone, there is a large void where players had a way to keep themselves and other players entertained while the devs worked on the next release.
Razar.
Perhaps these are some of the TFOs that should be reported as to XP offerings like they asked after they fixed 'Peril over Pahvo'.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I play it 5 times... that's mostly the time i need to level my ships to mastery 4, and i get a lot of marks...
No surprise your response....
Do you think people really want to spam that mind numbing mission? It's so boring and even more faceroll than ISA
The funny part is seeing these same circular arguments for over a decade on MMO forums...it's like people never learn from history or something...
Humans are so funny to watch.
This is very true. I am one of those people who play for fun. If I want to earn marks, I go where I can get my desired marks, if I want to haunt DSEs, I haunt DSEs. If I want to do my Endeavors, that's what I do.
Afterthought: If I can't get my desired TFO to pop, I don't worry about it, I find something else to do.
Now, to another point, yes the pre-Blue Moon Red Alerts did award 10 Choice Marks plus Daily Bonus, if applicable. But that was the final iteration of the PVE Queue Red Alerts.
When they first, unannouncedly, converted Red Alerts to PVE Queues the Borg Red Alert awarded 10 Omega Marks (plus Daily Bonus, if applicable) AND a Choice Marks Box of TWO Marks (plus Daily, if applicable).
The second iteration removed the separate Omega Marks (coincided with new PVE UI), awarded a Marks Choice Box of TWO Marks (plus Daily, if applicable).
The third iteration corrected the TWO Marks Award and made it TEN.
The fourth iteration is the Blue Moon Red Alerts and you know the rest of the story...
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Old system: more rewards per time playing STO, good way of gradually gathering/farming/grinding your marks.
New system: more rewards per real time passing, good way of pushing for that one thing you need with marks - when a weekend is on, of course.
Now, although it's still named Red Alert, it's just another TFO. There's no immersion, none of the feeling of dread being the first to arrive and go up against overwhelming odds, no joy as help arrives, or feeling like a hero by arriving just in time to save someone else, no feeling of accomplishment from having dropped everything and rushing off to save the sector from an unexpected incursion. Nope, just another TFO, the only difference being that this one is only available on select weekends.