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i started playing like 3 months ago maybe more not sure its freaking fun and i get spok voice over for real and some other cool stuff sorry just was curiose and started watching some shows when i heard spok i was like whattttttt!!!!!!!!! when i was visiting planets i got chills game is awesome i might hate that console gets extra late but extra but im still like whatttttt!!!!!! game is awesome need to advertise more is all
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1. Lack of PvP support. The game is really only balanced to around level 40ish.
2. Tailor having goofy limits, such as certain races not being allowed some of the hairstyles, or one faction having an extremely limited color palette compared to the other factions.
3. One faction having such a massive gaggle of ships and favoritism/support compared to the other factions. Likewise that same faction gaining access to great things that were at one point set for another faction, without giving equivalent value.
4. The game is shutting down the ability to access user generated content(The Foundry) in just over a month.
5. The lack of player agency when it comes to missions. You are led by the nose along rails for the stories. With removal of the Foundry, the universe is going to get even smaller.
6. Many people don't like the writing or path of the stories for the game, others don't like a lot of the ships, or how Romulans haven't had a warbird released in over a year, for example. ST:D has been extremely polarizing.
7. Ground combat is wonky and clunky. For example, using a bat'leth inflicts a self-imposed root on the person using it.
8. Some players didn't appreciate when one of the high ranking devs was vocal about his disdain for one of the factions(KDF), and also his attitude regarding a group of players(PvPers).
9. Various bugs with the game that continue to get neglected, swept under the rug, or kicked down the road.
10. Lots of focus on selling gambleboxes, powercreep, and ships.
11. I, as well as at least one other person, would have preferred if they monetized mission packs/mission arcs, and/or not retired the subscription options. Perhaps the studio might have a better stream of money coming in then.
12. People also don't like how this is one of the few MMORPGs that is now unable to do day/night cycles.
13. Lack of any meaningful endgame. It's all grind for resources and reputation marks, playing TFOs repeatedly, since there's no real meaningful gear drops in the game.
14. The only real PvP in this game is "exchange PvP," "forum PvP," "politics PvP(in zone chat or some of the channels)," or "Space Barbie PvP."
15. Equality of outcome in a lot of the game. No real failure conditions. For the most part, it's participation rewards handed out(I've heard people remark on Admiral participation pips, for example). Not much promotes competition or conflict between players. Competitive Wargames TFOs were stillborns on arrival pretty much. For the most part, it's pretty much just...A couple of TFOs at most, where getting first place really gives something(Crystal Catastrophe TFO offers bridge trophy and a couple of Very Rare quality items. I believe there's a ground one as well, perhaps? Or another space one...)?
16. The game has become "Monty Haul" with resource generation.
17. Power creep.
18. Voice acting is okay. It's not like SWTOR's from when I played SWTOR(First six or so months, don't know what it's like now).
19. Every time something new is introduced, there are 5+ things that break.
20. The roleplaying/gaming community in game isn't always as nice, close, or helpful as the forum community.
21. Old coding with nobody around from the past who can work with it, and it's a mess.
Others are free to agree, disagree, or voice their issues with the game.
Would I recommend the game nowadays to people? Not as fervently as I used to. But that's because I've come across many things that continue to deteriorate, or that I don't like, over the years I've played.
Also, it may be a pet peeve of mine, but it would behoove you to try working on your post there. It was painfully aggravating to read. From the grammar and sentence structure, to punctuation.
Longer version: many are things that are a matter of opinion, or not even true.
My character Tsin'xing
I am one who sees a big potential not fully used.
I am a romulan player that wants to see more warbirds!
(I have federation characters because i am forced by the game to have them, otherwise i woul be a 100% romulan. I don't like federation, sorry. I am a huge fan of star trek evil guys romulans, cardassians...).
10. Lots of focus on selling gambleboxes, powercreep, and ships.
11. I, as well as at least one other person, would have preferred if they monetized mission packs/mission arcs, and/or not retired the subscription options. Perhaps the studio might have a better stream of money coming in then.
I also agree a lot on these 2 points.
I love this game, i just would like to see it in a better shape.
ALSO: i still think that endgame open world map areas with random rewards, would be a great thing to add variety to the game.
I remember something that my co-worker once said about the process of finding a new car for his family together with his wife:
"My wife knows there is no perfect car. But she takes it personal."
I absolutely concur. Nearly all the issues listed are legitimate in my opinion but these particular ones vex me the most as well.
ingame: @.Spartan
Original Cryptic Forum Name: Spartan (member #124)
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11. I, as well as at least one other person, would have preferred if they monetized mission packs/mission arcs, and/or not retired the subscription options. Perhaps the studio might have a better stream of money coming in then.
The former IS the revenue stream and cheaper for ALOT of players. The latter DIDN'T work.....and you want to lock out content behind a limited income!? The current game is open to everyone Free and Paying customers. This encourages more sales than a subscription method does.
Hello rubber banding my old friend, time to bounce around the battlezone again, where are all my bug reports going?, out of love with this game I am falling, As Cryptic fail to acknowledge a problem exists, Shakes an angry fist, And from Support all I'm hearing are the sounds of silence.
My character Tsin'xing
Star Trek Online has all of the "bones" available to spread development resources between all of the factions thus far introduced, but the top heavy load of ships and stuff showered upon Starfleet in this game by the studio is ridiculous to say the least. Trolls will trot out the overly tired "well, players prefer Feds over everything else" argument, but how can they not ...... when that is predominantly what they are fed. I mean seriously Cryptic, are you gonna let your wee little toddlers always eat applesauce or at some point try to expand their palate with a more balanced diet?
Do they dislike the rather singular approach to monetisation in the form of ships and gamble boxes?
Or do they complain about the shoddy production values because they hope that doing so might get the folk responsible to up their game and put out something more than mediocre.
I tend to buy a game, usually on a steam sale, play it for anywhere from .5 to 20 hours and then toss it aside and look for the next game on sale. Most games fail to hold my attention and there are simply too many other options to keep wasting my gaming time playing something that I don't fully enjoy.
That being the case, I have been playing STO pretty consistently since 2013. Obviously, they are doing something right. I won't sit here and tell anyone that STO is a 'perfect game,' it's absolutely not. Some things are done very well, others leave a lot to be desired but overall, I can't say that it's not a pretty good game.
It's kept me playing for 6 years and still going strong, so they must be doing something right. It's not just the IP either, I am a bigger Star Wars fan then Star Trek (though Discovery is causing that to change) and I played SWTOR for about 6 weeks before I quit and never looked back.
Mostly this. Its not that big one thing; its a death of a thousand paper cuts thing which each of those have a different weighting depending on whom you ask.
My biggest would be that they are faaaaaaar to eager to keep, re-introduce and completely ignore lots of annoying (but not game breaking of course) bugs. Doubles down if they affect premium stuff you bought and now stops doing what it supposed to do.
Oh and all this timegating which creeped itself into the game on all fronts *shudders*
And then there is the removal instead of fixing/expanding of exploration *sigh*
It's just that there are many issues with STO, some of them having been in existence since years and never getting fixed. Some people are just more sensitive to it than others, with various degrees of legitimacy.
Of course, the fact that Cryptic now wants to remove the Foundry from the game isn't going to improve things, far from it ! But, that's another story...
(DISCLAIMER: Don't actually go into the WoW forums. If you do, prepare a mental hazmat suit, because those folks make the DSC haters here look rational and calm.)
So, people hate on this game because while it's not perfect (nothing is, and no two people's version of the "perfect game" will be the same), it is good, and it's doing well, which drives some people bugfrak insane for no reason I can clearly understand.
Rational people understand that criticism does not = hate, although criticism needs to be constructive. You shouldn't just criticize something, you should suggest how to fix the problem. And you should also realize that just because YOU think something is a problem doesn't mean other people do, so your personal pet peeve may never get fixed.
Me personally? I've played the game since closed beta and enjoyed it the whole time. There are certain things I don't love, and there are certain decisions I haven't always agreed with, but STO is my "main" game because it's my favorite.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
I enjoy the game. It has problems, and I understand that, but they're not enough to cause me to stop playing the game. I do, often, find the monetization process of the game to be a bit of a hindrance (and a distraction), but I also understand they need money to make the game run. I wish, sometimes, they'd focus on a fun factor in conjunction with the money aspects so that some of the things we like (that don't make money) were a focus as well, instead of only focusing on the things that make them money. The foundry is a good example. It should have been something they supported with dedicated staff (even if it was one person) instead of being a function of whomever was available at the time (which was normally no one) so that the process continued. We still give them lots of money (I know I do), so having those fun features maintained might be enough to keep us playing the game (and spending money on the things that we're okay with, but not overly thrilled with).
But, like I said, we all have our reasons for liking and complaining about the game. We all hope that our concerns are the ones addressed, but common sense says that it's not always going to be the case. When we're bothered enough, we leave. I've left a couple of times in the past, and recently returned ONLY because there's really nothing else on the horizon right now, and I love Star Trek. The less the game continues being Star Trek (no exploration whatsoever), the easier it becomes for me to jump ship on the next MMO that comes along.
I think a lot of people are in that boat, and this comes from someone who is actually a fan of the game.
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Foundry series: Bob From Accounting & For the Sake of the Empire
My character Tsin'xing
Exactly. This isn't a "chicken or egg" scenario here. Trek is about the Federation, so that is what most people are going to play even if every faction had equal content.
The-Grand-Nagus
Join Date: Sep 2008
1. Lack of focus on PVP balancing.
Since the beginning of this game, PVP is an afterthought. Skewed heavily towards the Klingon faction and premade groups.
Abilities are not balanced for both PVE and PVP based actions.
2. Pay to win mechanic.
Dilithium Ore should either have no limit or the limit raised for how much you can refine based on the type of sub you have.
If you're monthly or lifetime you should have the ability to refine more than a FTP player. It would give more of an incentive
to sub the game instead of a heavy focus on micro transactions. I wonder how much this game makes on micro transactions
and if the numbers of subs. Unfortunately, Perfect World does not publish sub numbers or income on micro transactions.
3. Faction specific favoritism.
Even though T6 ships have the same traits, the ships are NOT balanced for each faction and lock box ships are even worse.
Goes to my pay to win mechanic complaint. T6 ships you have to buy with Zen. Lock boxes can only be opened with keys
you have to buy with Zen and the ship drop rate is EXTREMELY rare. I'm talking you're lucky if you get one ship if you spend
$100 in keys.
4. Ship design is screwed up.
When you look at Federation ships, specifically their so called dreadnaughts and battlecruisers, they are dreadnaughts and
battlecruisers in name only. They have the completely wrong weapon, console, and bridge officer configurations for ships
that are supposed to be offensive in nature. Dreadnaughts should be bulkier versions of the battlecruisers. For a while, DPS
was heavily favored towards the Romulan faction and there aren't too many Federation battlecruisers that have the 5/3
weapon configuration that Romulan Scimitars have. Don't get me started with carrier design. Also, most of the ships that
have optimal DPS design are lockbox ships. Thus, more focus on the pay to win mechanic. There should be C Store ships
that you can buy that have similar configurations than the OP lockbox ships.
That's just a few of the major issues with the game. Overall, I have fun and love the game. It is heavily skewed towards the pay to win gear and ships. Any player should be able to grind for gear that is comparable to the pay to win gear.
12Th Fleet Section 31 Fleet Captain
This makes no sense.
You call it 'pay to win' and then you give a big rant about how paying gets you nothing over Free 2 Play.
Not a very consistent argument. And for the record, this game is in no way Pay2Win, the reason I have played as long as I have is because this is about the only game I have played where I can get top of the line everything without spending a dime.
STO is the polar opposite of P2W.