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I'm not happy about the change to the Terran Sword, it's not like boffs are that important on the ground anyway, why not let us have some fun? But whatever, I'm not gonna go on a rant about it. Can we at least have a way to return multiples of them or let them be account bound instead of character bound? There's literally nothing I can do with five of them on one toon. 
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but, realistically, it's more a fun thing and not that effective since boffs use the powers as soon as combat starts and don't use them when needed.
My character Tsin'xing
I know of a few people who bought them for the exact same reason.
I don't understand WHY it's a problem though. You can ALREADY summon an army of pets, why does the sword need to be the one thing boffs can't use?
Exactly, when I tested it, it actually took my boff a good 5 min to use the power, and only then it was after everything was already dead. So if it's broken anyway, why does it matter if they can use it every now and again?
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
Probably because of the fact you actually CAN get multiple copies.
Unless you got hit with some kind of dupliation thing, you're only gonna have 1 Shard of Possibilities. Unless you're running a full team of Engineers with Drone summoning abilities, you're limited to what your Captain can bring in. But that sword? It is NOT a unique weapon, allowing you to outfit an entire team with it. And each one can summon 2 minions, which effectively triples your manpower. AND THEN you consider captain abilities/kit modules and BOff abilities and devices.
Now I know about having my own personal army. My Romulan Engie is set up as a Drone Master. Its fun. But throwing my Drone Master Build WITH a Shard on top of a full set of Terran Sword minions?
Players who know how to get the maximum bang for their minion buck would just have a field day with that. Not only that... imagine a full instance of a zone like Nimbus with all that going on. No one's gonna be able to get any kills because there's just too many minions. And that's just gameplay. How will all that affect the game itself in an instance like that? Might bog down until that instances dies.
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If the change was made after you bought them, have you tried putting in a ticket to support to get your lobi back for the extras?
Adding a "max 1 per character" limitation AFTER letting a character buy and use 5 of them seems like a valid complaint since they are character-bound.
My character Tsin'xing
"Stats subject to change."
If changing something in an MMO was "shady business practice"... then MMOs would be stagnant and never have expansions that change how things work.
Is it a "shady business practice" to stat squish when the numbers start inflating through the roof to a point you literally cap it out? Is it a "shady business practice" to change how an ability works if it is revealed to not be working as intended or is overly powerful for its level?
Because if it is... then I guess every MMO in existance should just shut down right now and refund everything to every player that ever played an MMO.
Fact of the matter is... if at the end of the day Cryptic decides some aspect of some ability or weapon is not working as it should or is overperforming... they are within their rights to actually do something about it.
Why do you think the DPS meta changes every few years? Because Cryptic changes things to try and balance the game.
If all that is "shady business practice"... then what's the point of even working on an active MMO in the first place?
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I don't have a stake in this fight, but your argument feels inappropriate in this circumstance. This was not a simple stat adjustment, this was a functional change. It feels more akin to selling a multiplayer game and then they change it to hotseat only. They didn't change the rate of fire or the duration, they changed the way it worked period.
Now, I'm perfectly willing to assume that this was just bad QA and it was never meant to work that way, but they released it like that and people bought it for the way it was presented. Changing it after the fact with no recourse is a bit shady
The trouble is this 'for sale' (Lockbox, Lobi) stuff is never tested by the player base on Tribble because they they don't want to show their cards until they are ready to go.
I bought two, one for each of two Characters; my Discovery Character and my current maxed out everything 'Main'. Never even thought about or knew about this so-called 'exploit' or any other ever for that matter.
I would never equip my Away Team with all Melee weapons anyway. In fact hardly ever with a Melee weapon at all. I am remiss on summoning Away Teams with my Tactical Captains under normal circumstances.
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l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
I disagree. This is more like if they took away the Romulan captains' ability to fly T6 faction ships next week, after you'd bought one of them in the C-Store.
Except there the ship would still be usable if you created a Fed / KDF captain to fly the ship instead. Here the lobi is gone, but the character-bound swords are 100% useless.
*IF* they don't refund the lobi then it's shady indeed. If they do, no problem.
My character Tsin'xing
So you'd smile and say "no biggie" if they decided to "retire" your favorite T6 ship and remove it from the game completely? Or set your refined dil balance to 0?
Just because they're legally allowed to do something doesn't make it right.
As I said above, as long as they refund the lobi for the extra character-locked swords then I have no problem with them making a game balance or server load change.
Sometimes, you jump on a bandwagon and you get ride to the concert, sometimes you get a ride off the cliff.
In this case, players even got an ephemeral joy that others never will, which to some people is far more valuable that the pittance of Lobi involved.
I have no issue with Cryptic throwing a bone to people that bought multipes of this item, but to think it's some kind 'big deal' over such a small amount of real money and so few players is just another flismy excuse for a few people to rant about things they don't really understand, like how large code bases actually function.
This game is not a regulated utility that has direct influence over any sort life-threatening real-world issues.
All of the money and time spent here is for entertainment, it is not an investment that is guaranteed to hold any long term cash value.
If your time and money spent do not bring you the entertainment you desire, then move on, it really is not that hard.
Gear eventually becoming obsolete over time is a bit different from selling you something then a week later telling you it can no longer be used at all.
Also, it takes 10-12 lock box keys to get the lobi for one sword, so 40-48 keys for 4. $48 is more than pocket change.
$48 dollars is pocket change, I spend more one one meal of good sushi and you use the most expesive option, assuming someone acquired the Lobi for that purpose, etc.
See, it's all about different outlooks.
I have dropped over $1400 on this game and will drop more.
People got thier entertainment dollar out of the exchange or they did not, it is for each person to decide.
None of that means that Cryptic has done anything wrong or shady, they made a mistake that they fixed pretty quick.
If the individuals who feel they did not get the entertainment value they should have, they have recourse to contact support.
It really is that simple.
This idea that the game company is actively trying to TRIBBLE is customers is truly the most laughable thing I see on MMO forums.
Is why I'm upset. Ya the Swords can be still used as a melee weapon, but without the ability I basically spent about $20 for a shiny weapon skin since they're no better than a bat'leth.
Sure, those things are limited. But I can still give my away team 8 drones, 8 turrets, a Horta, 2 Tholian drones, an Elachi drone, and a dinosaur. Then *I* can can call down 2 clones of myself, a Romulan Security team, an Echo Papa drone, a Holo Decoy, an Iconian Turret and (if I'm lucky) 5 Security Escorts. Why would the occasional 2 extra Terran NPCs make that much of a difference?
Anyone want to give me a Temporal Heavy Dreadnought pack? I'll be your friend
Glad I didn't fall for it. LOL!
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That I can agree with 100%. I have an alien Fed SCIENCE! captain using the Tholian / Nukara space set and (once I get around to it) flying a Tholian ship, and it would be nice to continue the theme on ground maps.
"Space Barbie is the true endgame"
OH..does it do the spider web thing?? I like the web mines on my ship....it is hilarious when it bags a cube.
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https://sto.gamepedia.com/Nukara_Reinforcements_-_Reprogrammed_Drones
“Tell me and I forget. Teach me and I remember. Involve me and I learn.” -- Benjamin Franklin
"There... are... four... lights!" ~Jean Luc Picard
Dude... I haven't actually looked at them since Nukara Rep was new. STILL not worth it if you ask me. Turn that into a Kit Module already...
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