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New season spells the end of non Discovery content?
ssbn655
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I am concerned that with this new season we have seen the last of unique content and any future seasons will just be Discovery based episodes. I fear that we will never have anything like the previous seasons of the game ever again. No more AOY, Gamma, Delta, etc. stories just Discovery episodes I really hope this is not the case. One of the things I like about STO is yes there are ties in episodes but the seasons are unique onto their own. I hope that this continues and it avoids just being another marketing tool for CBS's show.
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It's just that I have a nagging feeling CBS is going to drop the hammer and stop any non Discovery era stuff from seeing the light of day. I hope they don't try and rewrite canon with Picard's upcoming show.
More or less with CBS holding all the cards they can dictate whatever they want to whom it may concern with no regard for the history and fan base of the entire Trek universe. I just hope that I am wrong and they let STO do it's own thing without to much corporate meddling.
You never know what a corp[orate is going to do when they get their hands on a popular universe and have a hit on their hands. See Star Wars Solo as an example.
All in all great times. I like trek as a whole and never felt that any particular part was neglected compared to its presence in TV/moovies. I don’t think Discovery should be an exception here.
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That said I actually liked the Solo movie, it wasn't great but it wasn't terrible either.
Is she in the other episodes?
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I felt like Solo was fine. Not good. Not bad. Just fine. It felt... unnecessary more than anything. And it was certainly better than The Last Jedi, which is easily the worst of all the Star Wars films.
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And could very well be the reason why so many peeps decided not to watch the Solo film relased just a few months later.
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It's why I didn't at first, I can't be alone. I was so, so disillusioned. Hell, I still am. I have since seen Solo, I think it's fine, but I would rather watch a marathon of the prequels than ever watch TLJ again. I had such high hopes too, because I really liked The Force Awakens, and I think the fact I was hyped about it made it all the worse.
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I agree. Same here.
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All of your fears are based on nothing but completely unsupported speculation. There is absolutely no reason at all to think that the game will be Discovery Only going forward, in fact history suggests the exact opposite.
I laugh every time someone posts and tells us what CBS wants or what they require.. it's funny because 100% of these posters are making thing up out of thin air. Like everyone else, you're taking a guess at what CBS wants.. and like everyone else, it's nothing but a theory. No one except Cryptic staff know anything about the deal with CBS and they never have.
I understand someone not liking The Last Jedi, but Attack of the Clones will always be the worst Star Wars movie. It has, not one single second of even halfway redeemable content. The Last Jedi might not be up to the overall standards of other Star Wars films, but Attack of the Clones is one of the worst movies ever made.
No. First of all, it's canon Star Trek and so of course they're gonna cover it. Second, some of us actually like it.
I think Episodes 1-2 are okay. I think 3-7 are awful. I think 8+ get progressively better. It starts getting better about the same time the first showrunner got kicked off, who knew.
Also a Star Trek show with a shaky first season? Unheard of! It's only every other series aside from TOS that has had a first season that is either awful or at least unremarkable or shaky in one way or another.
I know some people get bent out of shape about the visuals, but to me, the visuals aren't canon, they're just a "lens". The show looks like how TOS might have looked if they had a budget or the technology to really keep up with Gene's vision, which they did not (even Gene envisioned holographic panels and communications and such).
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No this isn't a Doom comment but an observation that Cryptic is a company like any other and of course they'd like to get more customers. I know a lot of people on this forum have an absolute irrational hate of Discovery but the fact remains that the show is popular and have brought new people to Star Trek. It is not inconceivable that some of them would like to play a Star Trek MMO, especially if it has content from their favorite series.
So will we see more Disco related content in the game even when the current season is at an end? I'm sure of it, at least if the show keeps it popularity and stays on the air.
Will it be the only kind of content we get? I very much doubt it. This game is still nearly nine years old with a long standing player base who have their own favorite parts of Star Trek.
Read what they've said:
1) CBS didn't 'push' ST: D content on Cryptic; CRYPTIC wanted to do it and asked, and CBS said okay.
2) Cryptic plans to basically do AoD as a FULL EXPANSION (like ViL, AoY, etc. were) - BUT, the didn't want to work on it for a year bin the back and release it like they have previous expansions; so they're working on AoD and releasing AoD content as they feel it's ready.
So, yes, for the next few content drops, you're going to see more AoD content and ships (and >GASP< I know you don't want to acknowledge it, but ST: D is popular, and new, and has fans that are now getting into 'Star Trek' because of it; so, yes, it makes sense that a Star Trek themed MMO would 'strike while the iron is hot' and get ST: D content into the game.
The above said, ST: D isn't the only new Star Trek on the horizon, and the next show being produced by CBS is one focusing on Picard - and even though it's start in 10 years prior to 2409; you can be sure it too will add to Star Trek in that era, and Cryptic will of course want to use that as a springboard to get that content into the game as well. MIGHT it involve a retcon? Yep. But the Cryptic Devs did say the writing staff asked for and got a lot of info on what Cryptic has written/done for the era; and while they are not obliged to use it, they could refer to some of it if, etc.
As for 'canon' remember - NOTHING in STO is canon. Canon is what's on the screen in a licensed production (be it TV or film); and that's how it goes. That said, since the Picard show will be overseen by the same EP for ST: D - and they have worked with Cryptic (even giving them a character and background story they had (which is where J'ula comes from); I'd say they probably won't go out of their way to invalidate most of what's been done - but again, that's the risk you take when the IP holder starts new production.
Who knows, maybe a story thread or two from the new Picard show will be used to create a mission/storyline in STO.
Bottom line: With a resurgence of streamed/TV Star Trek again, they'll probably focus on doing tie ins to whatever they can. But again, with a new show set near STO's timeframe; I wouldn't say we'll never see any 2410 content again; like anything, they'll mix it up and coordinate to better promote BOTH their game; and the new Star Trek shows that are developed and released by CBS over the next few years.
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IMO - that's a good thing for the longevity of the game.
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Cryptic didn't get forced into doing Discovery. They wanted to put it into STO and went to CBS whom signed off on it.
To expand on this, We actually got the Enterprise tie ins for the most part, besides the NX-01 in Vorgon Conclusions
1) Elachi were first seen on Enterprise.
2) the Time Pod that they found on Enterprise, that was Kal Dano's timepod.
3) Temporal Cold War arc was essentially something overarching throughout Enterprise.
4) Spherebuilders came from Enterprise.
5 Na'khul came from Enterprise.
The only thing that's really left that they haven't explored yet are those aliens from the early episodes that used other aliens for nutrients.
It's all the rage these days to unify universes... and I am not against it. It would be a joy to say "STO is canon" sometime in the future.
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Though some wild speculation and rumors that all is not well in Disco land and may face the chopping block. But that's just scuttlebutt. Don't know if real or not so take at that value.
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