> @starswordc said: > jrdobbsjr#3264 wrote: » > > Well, according to canon Starfleet is not a military, and even legendary officers like Scotty consider it a insult to suggest it is. That, of course, is ridiculous but it's canon, set by Gene himself. > > > > > Gene also said that Earth is a nudist colony, but that isn't true in canon either. Whether or not you like the term "military service", the fact is that Starfleet serves all the same functions and has most of the same structures as one. And let's face it: an ordinary starship, even one as small as the Defiant, is a weapon of mass destruction, and they don't give nuclear weapons to the Coast Guard (what Gene insisted on comparing Starfleet to). As far as characters in-universe? I notice it's always conflict-averse Earthborn humans* making that statement; I wonder what an Andorian or Bajoran would think of it if they were asked (or Worf, for that matter). > > * The exception being TOS Kirk, who openly described himself as a soldier.
Even O´Brien said he was a soldier once, then became a mechanic.
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As someone who has purchased every C-Store costume, and has every costume unlock (inc Lobi, Promo, Fleet, Rep, Mission, etc.) on at least one character, and has paid for a ton of extra costume slots (after the last service sale, I now have a total of 200 slots, and my main has ~190 of them filled, I've got a few extra ready for Summer), I greatly enjoy the Space Barbie aspect of this game, and if I had my way every piece of clothing would be available to every character, regardless of race, gender, faction or any other reason. I also think there should be no differences in On/Off-Duty or Armor pieces, etc.
I'm 100% for full unlocking of every costume piece. Period.
That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms. I get that even in real life, while it may be physically possible to wear certain pieces of clothing, it may be socially unacceptable (google "Stolen Valor") if not actually against the law (Impersonating an Officer, etc.), in some cases (whereas others it might be fine... people cosplay as police officers (strippers, Village People, lol) or soldiers (LARPing, airsoft tournies, etc.) all the time... Intent does play a part, too, but I digress.). Also, there have been episodes in canon where our heroes where the uniforms of the enemy.
I get it. There will be some restriction. I still think when it comes to the Rom and now Dom F(r)actions, if they're going to be required to pledge allegiance to Fed or KDF, then their uniforms should be part of the deal.
I had a similar problem back when Legacy of Romulus launched. One of the first things I did with my new Rom Fed, after joining my Fleet, was to go to our Starbase and buy our Odyssey Fleet Uniform, which at the time was not freely available (that didn't happen until Season 9.5), and required spending FC and Dilithium at the Fleet Store. I was very upset when I found out I couldn't wear what I just bought.
I opened a ticket, but Cryptic didn't care. I figure at least for esprit de corps, Fleet Uniforms should be allowed, but no. I was told it was unlocked for that character, but would only be wearable by Fed BOffs the character enlisted. Eventually, Cryptic did lower (half?) the price in the Fleet Store for Roms since it was only a BOff unlock (once bitten, twice shy, I haven't even tried buying any Fleet outfits for my Doms yet, anyone know if they're allowed?). I was never refunded the difference, BTW. Just out of luck.
Diplomacy BOffs only get to wear their faction's outfits. While usually awesome (some would agree the whole point of Diplomacy is to get an Orion Slave girl on one's Fed Away Team. Yes, yes, I'm a dirty sexist... I don't apologize, I like looking at pretty things.), there are some characters/RP times where I'd rather that Klingon isn't on some kind of "Officer Exchange Program," but rather just that race that happened to join Starfleet. I'd like a Gorn version of Worf, for example. Sure, Feds can recruit Klingon-raced Fed BOffs, and put them in Fed uniforms, but KDF players can't recruit human BOffs and put them in KDF uniforms.
Last I checked (some long time ago), it's not the other way 'round though... The Embassy Romulan BOffs don't have access to Romulan outfits. Even C-Store unlocks. I would very much like to put mine in the TNG Tal Shiar outfit (I'm thinking like T'Rul aboard the Defiant). And for my Temporal Agent TOSling, I'd put his Rom BOffs in the 23rd Century outfit. This is a great disappointment to me.
So with the Doms. It's tragic just how few outfits the Jem'Hadar get. It's a damn shame they don't get access to at least universal outfits (like Intel, Formalwear, etc.). I think they don't even get all the cool kit add-ons, etc. It's even stranger/more confusing that Feds, KDFs and Roms get access to the Jem'Hadar Vanguard outfit. To be clear, I'm not complaining about that. It's just weird. As mentioned, my Feds/KDF don't get access to premium Rom outfits, even for their Rom BOffs.
I dunno.
STO's Tailor ... As much as I love it, it's also one of the most confusing and too often disappointing thing about the game (lots of strange bugs, color-locking/restrictions, etc.). Most of the restrictions really have no other reason other than because Cryptic Says So. It's easy enough to flip a switch that locks/unlocks a piece of digital clothing. The recent take-back of the Fed Jem outfits proves that.
Incidentally, when I found out they were taking them away, I spent hours in the Tailor on my Fed Jem the night before, making as many Fed-only outfits as possible. Knowing once their made, they usually hang around (Like how my Gorn still has all his original old-school uniforms with the original Gorn geo. You can't go back in and edit them later, but still...). Sadly, the universe sided with Cryptic, and my internet went down (I've been having ISP issues of late) before I could finish, so he's only got half what I wanted, but it's still nice for my Jem to walk around ESD in an Odyssey, WoK, or TNG uniform. Heh.
TL;DR - Fed Jem'Hadar can't wear Fed Uniforms, that's begrudgingly "ok", but Jem'Hadar that can't wear universal outfits, especially Premium ones (Intel, etc.), is Bad.
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Jem'Hadar also can't seem to wear all the reputation outfits either. I unlocked the 3 Omega Force Pieces and the additional costume II unlock, however when I went to create the costume I did not have access to any of the costume II unlocks but the helmet.
> @warpangel said: > I'm noticing they're still not in any hurry to correspondingly remove the jem'hadar uniforms from Feds, either. > > Of course, they shouldn't actually do that. But the hypocrisy is strong nonetheless.
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That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms.
Why? Why is it any more "strange" than wearing all the bazillion other alien uniforms in the game?
Well, for starters... *I* do not think it's strange.
Perhaps you could read the rest of my post where I explain why I could understand the idea of the strangeness, in general... At least the rest of the paragraph from which you quoted the first line:
That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms. I get that even in real life, while it may be physically possible to wear certain pieces of clothing, it may be socially unacceptable (google "Stolen Valor") if not actually against the law (Impersonating an Officer, etc.), in some cases (whereas others it might be fine... people cosplay as police officers (strippers, Village People, lol) or soldiers (LARPing, airsoft tournies, etc.) all the time... Intent does play a part, too, but I digress.). Also, there have been episodes in canon where our heroes where the uniforms of the enemy.
It's not like Cryptic has given any real reason beyond "Because We Say So". I'm only playing at being the Devil's Advocate, and trying to understand why the restrictions exist at all. So forgive me if I'm not too clear.
That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms.
Why? Why is it any more "strange" than wearing all the bazillion other alien uniforms in the game?
Well, for starters... *I* do not think it's strange.
Perhaps you could read the rest of my post where I explain why I could understand the idea of the strangeness, in general... At least the rest of the paragraph from which you quoted the first line:
That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms. I get that even in real life, while it may be physically possible to wear certain pieces of clothing, it may be socially unacceptable (google "Stolen Valor") if not actually against the law (Impersonating an Officer, etc.), in some cases (whereas others it might be fine... people cosplay as police officers (strippers, Village People, lol) or soldiers (LARPing, airsoft tournies, etc.) all the time... Intent does play a part, too, but I digress.). Also, there have been episodes in canon where our heroes where the uniforms of the enemy.
I did read it. But none of the rest negates you saying "I can grumbly admit it would be strange..." so if that didn't really mean you you think it's strange I had no way of telling that.
It's not like Cryptic has given any real reason beyond "Because We Say So". I'm only playing at being the Devil's Advocate, and trying to understand why the restrictions exist at all. So forgive me if I'm not too clear.
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Right. I agree there is no reason but "Because We Say So" and they should totally remove all the restrictions. I'd say there's nothing to understand there, it's all arbitrary.
If they actually did consistently forbid all foreign uniforms, that would be understandable. But they don't.
Nor are they just engaging in some kind of Alliance internal solidarity (allowing outside uniforms, but not each others'), because there are restrictions extending to outside factions as well, such as the ferengi, the Terran Empire, the Romulan Star Empire, etc as well as restrictions to civilian clothes (and hairstyles) which makes no sense whatsoever. Not to mention even if they were, the Dominion is not a member of the Alliance at this point, they're just grudgingly working together because they have a common enemy. I don't see the jem'hadar asking approval from Starfleet as to their choice of pants.
Yes, they did. Your Jem"Hadar isn't in Starfleet. As long as that distinction remains, even if there's no real difference between what he is and a Starfleet officer as far as game mechanics goes, he shouldn't be wearing a Starfleet uniform. You might want it as an option, but that's just not a good enough justification for it. The justification for taking them away is that your Jem'Hadar who is allied to Starfleet is not in Starfleet, the same way that your Romulan who is allied to Starfleet is not in Starfleet, and therefore can't use their uniforms. There is no evidence that they have all of the rights and freedoms of Federation citizens, and even if they did, they are still not in Starfleet, therefore they should not be wearing Starfleet uniforms.
Now I would be all for them removing factions mechanically, and then allowing us to fly whatever we want and wear whatever we want, but that isn't the game that we have, and as long as the game that we have has factions, even with just minuscule distinctions between them that might as well not even be there, then the uniforms of one faction should not be shared with the others.
That's incredibly asinine....but asinine in a way that I could imagine some SJW minded bureaucrat in Starfleet actually coming up with such a policy. I could actually see them giving a Fed-Rom or Fed'Hadar unfettered access to the Sol System, including Earth itself, not to mention strategic Starbases across the Federation, command Federation ships, lead Starfleet formations into battle, and even make political decisions for the Federation on occasion, all without blinking....but utterly getting the vapors at the idea of that same individual wearing a Starfleet uniform, even though they are functioning as a defacto Flag Officer in Starfleet. It's so ridiculous that it could actually happen.
Heck, they let just about anyone take up Federation citizenship now, according to Path of 2409, and they don't have to renounce their previous allegiances, either. Assuming the Republic allows it, a Fed-Rom could apply for citizenship and still be a Citizen of the Republic and a Flag Officer in it's Navy...I would imagine D'Tan would probably encourage it as then Starfleet couldn't legally stop you from going anywhere a Fed civilian can go....for instance, Paris....if they bother to limit a Fed-Rom or Fed'Hadar's movements, anyway....they probably don't.
There is nothing asinine about it. Your Dominion or Romulan character is still a member of their own military service. That is just a simple fact. Look at the top left corner of your screen to confirm this. You can't be a member of 2 different governments' services at the same time. That would be asinine. Dual citizenship does not make you a member of Starfleet, any more than standard citizenship makes every Federation citizen a member of Starfleet. Allowing your allies into your facilities is pretty common, as are joint operations and sharing of intelligence. You know what allied service people don't do? Wear each others' uniforms, though I see this was covered in the interim.
Now I would be all for them removing factions mechanically, and then allowing us to fly whatever we want and wear whatever we want, but that isn't the game that we have, and as long as the game that we have has factions, even with just minuscule distinctions between them that might as well not even be there, then the uniforms of one faction should not be shared with the others.
You're sooooo missing the point, it's scary, really. Way I read this thread, is as most ppl saying they understand a Fed-aligned Jem can't wear a Klink uniform. All rather reasonable. But the Intel suit?! I paid for that, with the guarantee that ALL my Captains could use it. And, in fact, my Jem *could* use it -- however briefly. As I paid for a great many other cross-Faction uniforms too. Reneging on that deal is not cool (although I still entertain the hope that this was just the result of a lazy, knee-jerk 'fix').
What's scary is people who can't seem to follow a conversation, even with visible quotes. I said that they needed to remove the uniforms of the allies, then the 2 people that I quoted take umbrage to that. I never said that removing Intel uniform access from Fed-allied Jem'Hadar was necessary. In fact, all of the things that don't classify as uniforms should be open to everyone, things like the 23rd century Vulcan, Andorian and Tellarite outfits. There has never been a good reason to restrict those.
I agree that each faction should be restricted to they're own uniform.. I have no problem with that. Jem'Hadar shouldn't be in Star Fleet uniforms.. I am cool with that.
The problem is removing things like the Intel Uniform that are paid items that clearly state in their description that they're available to "all captains." If they want to draw a line at faction uniforms, that's cool by me.. but outfits outside of official faction gear should be free reign.
Except "all captains' was pre VIL. Either they never considered Jem'Hadar in a Intel Uniform (which doesn't make much sense anyway) or they over reacted by removing all of them from Jem'Hadar. I suspect it was easier to remove all federation costume options for Jem'Hadar, rather than selectively remove some.
Yes, it was pre VIL but it's still advertised on the store as working for 'all captains.'
They are selling the item for money (sure, you can buy with Dilithum too) so they have a certain responsibility to keep the products 'as advertised.' If they added a faction later that now can't use the uniform then they should go back and alter the description in the C-Store. Right now, they are advertising an item for sale with a feature that it doesn't actually have.
They're also advertising one, 21st century Formal, without a feature that it actually has. That one specifies Starfleet, Klingon and Romulan access, but is available to the Jem'Hadar. Others have mentioned Mercenary as being excluded, but I saw at least some of the options for it on my KDF-allied Jem'Hadar, though I didn't look through to see if everything is available. I think that Intel restriction is a bug at this point, but we will see if they ever fix it.
This is an MMO, not a Star Trek episode simulator. That would make for a terrible game.
There is nothing asinine about it. Your Dominion or Romulan character is still a member of their own military service. That is just a simple fact. Look at the top left corner of your screen to confirm this. You can't be a member of 2 different governments' services at the same time. That would be asinine. Dual citizenship does not make you a member of Starfleet, any more than standard citizenship makes every Federation citizen a member of Starfleet. Allowing your allies into your facilities is pretty common, as are joint operations and sharing of intelligence. You know what allied service people don't do? Wear each others' uniforms, though I see this was covered in the interim.
The whole concept of the questline for Romulans and Jem'Hadar post Khitomer is silly and unrealistic.....what is asinine is that you seem to be OK with the Feds/KDF handing over a brand new cutting edge T6 ship to a Romulan, or worse, a Jem'Hadar so they can drive her home to let their real faction's engineers crawl all over her, but the idea of putting that same toon in that faction's uniform triggers you.
Or... the explanation is, it's just a game mechanic.
Honestly, there's no way to possibly get Jem'Hadar on par with even the KDF or Romulans, much less the Federation, in terms of number of ship choices, especially with regards to Traits and Admiralty.
In-universe there doesn't need to be an explanation for anything, as you're not likely to see a Jem'Hadar in command of a foreign vessel anyway. You all are working too hard to rationalize game mechanics with story lore. You don't HAVE to put your Jem'Hadar in a FED/KDF ship at all, ever. Just like you don't HAVE to put your Romulan in one either. You want to keep them "pure" to their Faction, you can do that. It's your choice.
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Or... the explanation is, it's just a game mechanic.
Honestly, there's no way to possibly get Jem'Hadar on par with even the KDF or Romulans, much less the Federation, in terms of number of ship choices, especially with regards to Traits and Admiralty.
In-universe there doesn't need to be an explanation for anything, as you're not likely to see a Jem'Hadar in command of a foreign vessel anyway. You all are working too hard to rationalize game mechanics with story lore. You don't HAVE to put your Jem'Hadar in a FED/KDF ship at all, ever. Just like you don't HAVE to put your Romulan in one either. You want to keep them "pure" to their Faction, you can do that. It's your choice.
Right. It's just for fun. People can write their own story how they came to fly whatever ship they fly, if they care about such things.
I'd just wish they were more consistent on that front, instead of arbitrarily putting up the blocks on some things just because, even though other similar things are allowed. Perfect example with the ships, they enabled allied T5-6's for romulans (presumably to match the jem'hadar) but left out some of the lockbox/lobi ships for no reason.
It's the same with clothes....you can wear anything, except when you can't. And it isn't anywhere near as well-defined as "no allied service uniforms." There are all kinds of things that are locked to race, faction or origin story, just because.
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> Well, according to canon Starfleet is not a military, and even legendary officers like Scotty consider it a insult to suggest it is. That, of course, is ridiculous but it's canon, set by Gene himself.
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> Gene also said that Earth is a nudist colony, but that isn't true in canon either. Whether or not you like the term "military service", the fact is that Starfleet serves all the same functions and has most of the same structures as one. And let's face it: an ordinary starship, even one as small as the Defiant, is a weapon of mass destruction, and they don't give nuclear weapons to the Coast Guard (what Gene insisted on comparing Starfleet to). As far as characters in-universe? I notice it's always conflict-averse Earthborn humans* making that statement; I wonder what an Andorian or Bajoran would think of it if they were asked (or Worf, for that matter).
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> * The exception being TOS Kirk, who openly described himself as a soldier.
Even O´Brien said he was a soldier once, then became a mechanic.
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I'm 100% for full unlocking of every costume piece. Period.
That being said, I can grumbly admit it would be strange for my Starfleet Admiral to wear KDF uniforms. I get that even in real life, while it may be physically possible to wear certain pieces of clothing, it may be socially unacceptable (google "Stolen Valor") if not actually against the law (Impersonating an Officer, etc.), in some cases (whereas others it might be fine... people cosplay as police officers (strippers, Village People, lol) or soldiers (LARPing, airsoft tournies, etc.) all the time... Intent does play a part, too, but I digress.). Also, there have been episodes in canon where our heroes where the uniforms of the enemy.
I get it. There will be some restriction. I still think when it comes to the Rom and now Dom F(r)actions, if they're going to be required to pledge allegiance to Fed or KDF, then their uniforms should be part of the deal.
I had a similar problem back when Legacy of Romulus launched. One of the first things I did with my new Rom Fed, after joining my Fleet, was to go to our Starbase and buy our Odyssey Fleet Uniform, which at the time was not freely available (that didn't happen until Season 9.5), and required spending FC and Dilithium at the Fleet Store. I was very upset when I found out I couldn't wear what I just bought.
I opened a ticket, but Cryptic didn't care. I figure at least for esprit de corps, Fleet Uniforms should be allowed, but no. I was told it was unlocked for that character, but would only be wearable by Fed BOffs the character enlisted. Eventually, Cryptic did lower (half?) the price in the Fleet Store for Roms since it was only a BOff unlock (once bitten, twice shy, I haven't even tried buying any Fleet outfits for my Doms yet, anyone know if they're allowed?). I was never refunded the difference, BTW. Just out of luck.
Diplomacy BOffs only get to wear their faction's outfits. While usually awesome (some would agree the whole point of Diplomacy is to get an Orion Slave girl on one's Fed Away Team. Yes, yes, I'm a dirty sexist... I don't apologize, I like looking at pretty things.), there are some characters/RP times where I'd rather that Klingon isn't on some kind of "Officer Exchange Program," but rather just that race that happened to join Starfleet. I'd like a Gorn version of Worf, for example. Sure, Feds can recruit Klingon-raced Fed BOffs, and put them in Fed uniforms, but KDF players can't recruit human BOffs and put them in KDF uniforms.
Last I checked (some long time ago), it's not the other way 'round though... The Embassy Romulan BOffs don't have access to Romulan outfits. Even C-Store unlocks. I would very much like to put mine in the TNG Tal Shiar outfit (I'm thinking like T'Rul aboard the Defiant). And for my Temporal Agent TOSling, I'd put his Rom BOffs in the 23rd Century outfit. This is a great disappointment to me.
So with the Doms. It's tragic just how few outfits the Jem'Hadar get. It's a damn shame they don't get access to at least universal outfits (like Intel, Formalwear, etc.). I think they don't even get all the cool kit add-ons, etc. It's even stranger/more confusing that Feds, KDFs and Roms get access to the Jem'Hadar Vanguard outfit. To be clear, I'm not complaining about that. It's just weird. As mentioned, my Feds/KDF don't get access to premium Rom outfits, even for their Rom BOffs.
I dunno.
STO's Tailor ... As much as I love it, it's also one of the most confusing and too often disappointing thing about the game (lots of strange bugs, color-locking/restrictions, etc.). Most of the restrictions really have no other reason other than because Cryptic Says So. It's easy enough to flip a switch that locks/unlocks a piece of digital clothing. The recent take-back of the Fed Jem outfits proves that.
Incidentally, when I found out they were taking them away, I spent hours in the Tailor on my Fed Jem the night before, making as many Fed-only outfits as possible. Knowing once their made, they usually hang around (Like how my Gorn still has all his original old-school uniforms with the original Gorn geo. You can't go back in and edit them later, but still...). Sadly, the universe sided with Cryptic, and my internet went down (I've been having ISP issues of late) before I could finish, so he's only got half what I wanted, but it's still nice for my Jem to walk around ESD in an Odyssey, WoK, or TNG uniform. Heh.
TL;DR - Fed Jem'Hadar can't wear Fed Uniforms, that's begrudgingly "ok", but Jem'Hadar that can't wear universal outfits, especially Premium ones (Intel, etc.), is Bad.
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Of course, they shouldn't actually do that. But the hypocrisy is strong nonetheless.
> I'm noticing they're still not in any hurry to correspondingly remove the jem'hadar uniforms from Feds, either.
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> Of course, they shouldn't actually do that. But the hypocrisy is strong nonetheless.
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Well, for starters... *I* do not think it's strange.
Perhaps you could read the rest of my post where I explain why I could understand the idea of the strangeness, in general... At least the rest of the paragraph from which you quoted the first line:
It's not like Cryptic has given any real reason beyond "Because We Say So". I'm only playing at being the Devil's Advocate, and trying to understand why the restrictions exist at all. So forgive me if I'm not too clear.
But to reiterate, my personal position is:
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Right. I agree there is no reason but "Because We Say So" and they should totally remove all the restrictions. I'd say there's nothing to understand there, it's all arbitrary.
If they actually did consistently forbid all foreign uniforms, that would be understandable. But they don't.
Nor are they just engaging in some kind of Alliance internal solidarity (allowing outside uniforms, but not each others'), because there are restrictions extending to outside factions as well, such as the ferengi, the Terran Empire, the Romulan Star Empire, etc as well as restrictions to civilian clothes (and hairstyles) which makes no sense whatsoever. Not to mention even if they were, the Dominion is not a member of the Alliance at this point, they're just grudgingly working together because they have a common enemy. I don't see the jem'hadar asking approval from Starfleet as to their choice of pants.
There is nothing asinine about it. Your Dominion or Romulan character is still a member of their own military service. That is just a simple fact. Look at the top left corner of your screen to confirm this. You can't be a member of 2 different governments' services at the same time. That would be asinine. Dual citizenship does not make you a member of Starfleet, any more than standard citizenship makes every Federation citizen a member of Starfleet. Allowing your allies into your facilities is pretty common, as are joint operations and sharing of intelligence. You know what allied service people don't do? Wear each others' uniforms, though I see this was covered in the interim.
What's scary is people who can't seem to follow a conversation, even with visible quotes. I said that they needed to remove the uniforms of the allies, then the 2 people that I quoted take umbrage to that. I never said that removing Intel uniform access from Fed-allied Jem'Hadar was necessary. In fact, all of the things that don't classify as uniforms should be open to everyone, things like the 23rd century Vulcan, Andorian and Tellarite outfits. There has never been a good reason to restrict those.
They're also advertising one, 21st century Formal, without a feature that it actually has. That one specifies Starfleet, Klingon and Romulan access, but is available to the Jem'Hadar. Others have mentioned Mercenary as being excluded, but I saw at least some of the options for it on my KDF-allied Jem'Hadar, though I didn't look through to see if everything is available. I think that Intel restriction is a bug at this point, but we will see if they ever fix it.
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The whole concept of the questline for Romulans and Jem'Hadar post Khitomer is silly and unrealistic.....what is asinine is that you seem to be OK with the Feds/KDF handing over a brand new cutting edge T6 ship to a Romulan, or worse, a Jem'Hadar so they can drive her home to let their real faction's engineers crawl all over her, but the idea of putting that same toon in that faction's uniform triggers you.
Honestly, there's no way to possibly get Jem'Hadar on par with even the KDF or Romulans, much less the Federation, in terms of number of ship choices, especially with regards to Traits and Admiralty.
In-universe there doesn't need to be an explanation for anything, as you're not likely to see a Jem'Hadar in command of a foreign vessel anyway. You all are working too hard to rationalize game mechanics with story lore. You don't HAVE to put your Jem'Hadar in a FED/KDF ship at all, ever. Just like you don't HAVE to put your Romulan in one either. You want to keep them "pure" to their Faction, you can do that. It's your choice.
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I'd just wish they were more consistent on that front, instead of arbitrarily putting up the blocks on some things just because, even though other similar things are allowed. Perfect example with the ships, they enabled allied T5-6's for romulans (presumably to match the jem'hadar) but left out some of the lockbox/lobi ships for no reason.
It's the same with clothes....you can wear anything, except when you can't. And it isn't anywhere near as well-defined as "no allied service uniforms." There are all kinds of things that are locked to race, faction or origin story, just because.