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Funny dialog from Fed'Hadar perspective.

morden613morden613 Member Posts: 367 Arc User
edited June 2018 in Star Trek Online General Discussion
(let's try this again...)

On my Fed'Hadar toon...

This seems funny when that is not at all what happened. I have no idea what you're talking about, Jarok.

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  • szimszim Member Posts: 2,503 Arc User
    No dialogue in any of the pre-Gamma missions was changed to reflect you playing as a Jem'hadar character. You are a Fed/Klingon character and get treated as such. It's particularly weird in the Cardassian story arc when you're being told what the Jem'hadar are and what Ketracel White is. You're even destroying a Ketracel White factory. All the juicy White, gone forever... it's a tragedy... :'(
  • morden613morden613 Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Yes, I know, no dialogs were changed. That's why it's funny. ;)

    Right? Hilarious.
    I'd like to think the Fed'Hadar player was given some white the factory blew up. >;)
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  • thevampinatorthevampinator Member Posts: 637 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    Well can't expect all the npcs to know the truth about you. After all you do arrive at end game. She might not know you are a Fed'hadar and why would she? To her you are just another Federation Lacky. Doing Lacky things for the Federation. She might not even know your Jem Hadar. It could be after all a Holodeck program!
  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    szim wrote: »
    It's particularly weird in the Cardassian story arc when you're being told what the Jem'hadar are and what Ketracel White is. You're even destroying a Ketracel White factory. All the juicy White, gone forever... it's a tragedy... :'(

    Not to mention the fact that you actually attack a Founder. Twice.
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  • amosov78amosov78 Member Posts: 1,495 Arc User
    I just treat it all as a holodeck simulation, to get my character up to speed on what's happened in the Federation and Empire up until the Alliance and Dominion allied together against the Hur'q.
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  • morden613morden613 Member Posts: 367 Arc User
    A holodeck simulation. Right. I like that.​​
  • sirmaydaysirmayday Member Posts: 535 Arc User
    I haven't played my Gamma Recruit that far (played the new episodes on my Fed main first), but don't the old missions have the 'mission simulator' contact in the Episodes menu (like previously completed missions do for other characters)? That would literally make it a (most likely holodeck) simulation.
  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,677 Community Moderator
    tyler002 wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that you actually attack a Founder. Twice.

    Well... to be fair... that Founder did attack first, so it could be viewed as Self Defense. B)
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  • bernatkbernatk Member Posts: 1,089 Bug Hunter
    sirmayday wrote: »
    I haven't played my Gamma Recruit that far (played the new episodes on my Fed main first), but don't the old missions have the 'mission simulator' contact in the Episodes menu (like previously completed missions do for other characters)? That would literally make it a (most likely holodeck) simulation.

    nope. But still you leave the gamma quadrant as lvl65 jem with all quest finished there. Founders are liars, your life is a lie. Only Odo has respect for you. Of course my jem didn't have problem blowing up white factory or killing changelings.
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  • burstorionburstorion Member Posts: 1,750 Arc User
    amosov78 wrote: »
    I just treat it all as a holodeck simulation, to get my character up to speed on what's happened in the Federation and Empire up until the Alliance and Dominion allied together against the Hur'q.

    Well, the giver -is- a mission simulator, so...

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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    I am pretty sure all old content you get to play is supposed to be a Holodeck Simulation. Otherwise it simply cannot make sense!

    It would be nice if they actually explicited say that before the missions get unlocked.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    It's a simulation. The jem'hadar storyline begins at the end of the tzenkethi arc.
  • tigeraries3tigeraries3 Member Posts: 3 Arc User
    they should of just made it so that all the previous episodes are nothing more than holo training sessions based on Fed/KDF experiences... so the JHD can play both sides regardless of faction chosen...
  • meimeitoomeimeitoo Member Posts: 12,594 Arc User
    morden613 wrote: »
    (let's try this again...)

    On my Fed'Hadar toon...

    This seems funny when that is not at all what happened. I have no idea what you're talking about, Jarok.​​


    Why, she wasn't finished talking yet... but the server was not responding! :P
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  • tyler002tyler002 Member Posts: 1,586 Arc User
    The 'holodeck simulation' explanation has a plot hole of its own; how do you do a simulation of the Temporal missions? Those would either be classified or never even part of recorded history.
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  • mez83mez83 Member Posts: 255 Arc User
    > @thevampinator said:
    > Well can't expect all the npcs to know the truth about you. After all you do arrive at end game. She might not know you are a Fed'hadar and why would she? To her you are just another Federation Lacky. Doing Lacky things for the Federation. She might not even know your Jem Hadar. It could be after all a Holodeck program!

    That's how I'm head cannoning all of it. My jem is just playing through holodeck simulations of recent federation missions.
  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    rattler2 wrote: »
    tyler002 wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that you actually attack a Founder. Twice.

    Well... to be fair... that Founder did attack first, so it could be viewed as Self Defense. B)
    the founders are gods, if a god attacks you, you let it. XD
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    tyler002 wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that you actually attack a Founder. Twice.
    Well... to be fair... that Founder did attack first, so it could be viewed as Self Defense. B)
    the founders are gods, if a god attacks you, you let it. XD
    But a god told you to go there and arrest another god!
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  • drpepper82192drpepper82192 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    The best moment for me was Vorgon Conclusions, in which my Dominion carrier blasts its way through the Breen attack on Earth, and a Jem’hadar strike team beams down into Starfleet Command and saves some starfleet officers. Their response?

    “Oh thank God, you’re not Breen.”
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    well, I mean... they're not wrong... although in the context it's easy to imagine a team of Jem'hadar as the greater of two evils.
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    drpepper82192 wrote: »
    The best moment for me was Vorgon Conclusions, in which my Dominion carrier blasts its way through the Breen attack on Earth, and a Jem’hadar strike team beams down into Starfleet Command and saves some starfleet officers. Their response?

    “Oh thank God, you’re not Breen.”
    Do it with the breen bridge officer next time. :D
  • baddmoonrizinbaddmoonrizin Member Posts: 11,023 Community Moderator
    The Breen attack on Earth was during the Dominion War, though. :confused:

    "Oh, thank God, you're not Breen! ... Wait a minute... Jem'Hadar! Open fire!"
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    The Breen attack on Earth was during the Dominion War, though. :confused:

    "Oh, thank God, you're not Breen! ... Wait a minute... Jem'Hadar! Open fire!"
    Same as doing the 23rd century Drozana missions with klingons or romulans, really. Except of course, they don't even have a hint of "holodeck simulation" going on, unlike the jemmies.

    Hint for people who are unable to ignore such interactions: Put your inappropriate captain/boffs in time-appropriate Federation EV suits, then they can't see you're the wrong race.
  • drpepper82192drpepper82192 Member Posts: 9 Arc User
    edited June 2018
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    The Breen attack on Earth was during the Dominion War, though. :confused:

    "Oh, thank God, you're not Breen! ... Wait a minute... Jem'Hadar! Open fire!"

    Honestly even before Jem’hadar that one felt odd. A random Romulan or Klingon walks into starfleet HQ and ask to see their super secret vault of goodies and get taken there no questions asked. That part definitely feels like you were supposed to be disguised.

    Also for more hilarious moments: On the Galorndon Core mission, despite being disguised as a Romulan bird of prey, I still had my two super futuristic escorts with me.

    And I do understand these missions weren’t designed with JH or their mechanics in mind, but they’re still pretty funny.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    warpangel wrote: »
    baddmoonrizin wrote: »
    The Breen attack on Earth was during the Dominion War, though. :confused:

    "Oh, thank God, you're not Breen! ... Wait a minute... Jem'Hadar! Open fire!"
    Same as doing the 23rd century Drozana missions with klingons or romulans, really. Except of course, they don't even have a hint of "holodeck simulation" going on, unlike the jemmies.

    Hint for people who are unable to ignore such interactions: Put your inappropriate captain/boffs in time-appropriate Federation EV suits, then they can't see you're the wrong race.
    I came up with a better idea. :p I had my KDF away team dress in period correct attire. :D
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    drpepper82192 wrote: »
    Also for more hilarious moments: On the Galorndon Core mission, despite being disguised as a Romulan bird of prey, I still had my two super futuristic escorts with me.
    That mission's also a bit funny the other way around. You could be playing it as an actual romulan with actual romulan boffs dressed in actual period uniforms and flying an actual T'liss...and still be inexplicably busted by Temporal Dude for using "holographic disguises." :D
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    darthmeow504 wrote: »
    markhawkman wrote: »
    nickcastleton wrote: »
    rattler2 wrote: »
    tyler002 wrote: »
    Not to mention the fact that you actually attack a Founder. Twice.
    Well... to be fair... that Founder did attack first, so it could be viewed as Self Defense. B)
    the founders are gods, if a god attacks you, you let it. XD
    But a god told you to go there and arrest another god!

    That alone should make them shut down. Can't follow either set of orders, can't disobey. They aren't just indoctrinated, they're programmed with protocols they cannot ignore. Fatal paradox, system crash. They'd lock up, catatonic as their programming loops in contradictory cycles. The founders themselves would have to break the loop by belaying the conflicting orders and giving them something to do that they can actually proceed on.
    Kar'ukan & co disagree. For all their inbuilt fanaticisim, they are still people with free will, for better or for worse.
  • dareaudareau Member Posts: 2,390 Arc User
    I chuckled when, during Time & Tide, my Fed'Hadar was getting all the "peace loving hippy" commentary, and my head was going "you know, I'm from one of the most destructive races in the Galaxy and my body count puts Admiral Kills'Em'All to shame."


    This is why everyone was saying J'H belong to the KDF and KDF only - at least there you are recognized as the cold blooded killer you're engineered to be... :tongue:
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