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khan5000
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I mean, he couldn't exactly play a younger version of himself, but the IP owners seem obsessed with prequels.
This.
It's just a rumor at this point. There's far from an official announcement that a Picard mini-series will happen, let alone that Stewart is involved.
Losing faith in humanity, one person at a time.
Agreed, I would love to see things going forward, not the past.
And honestly... I don't know where this notion that it MUST, without question, look forward comes from. Star Trek as a whole is a universe full of stories in many time periods. If done right, any time period is open for further exploration. We don't have to lock ourselves down to the exploits of one single ship per era. I mean look at the TNG era! We had 2 ships and a space station, all in different regions of the galaxy.
I'm not saying I'm opposed to any new 24th or even 25th Century stories. I'm just saying that I'm open to exploring more in the 22nd and 23rd as well. Its pretty well documented what the Enterprise has done, BUT... One ship doesn't make the entire fleet. There are other ships, for example USS Discovery, that may have had interesting missions during their service. The KEY is not infringing on canon events so much that it changes the narritive, like if they basically retold Balance of Terror but changed it so that it wasn't the Romulans involved sort of thing. You want to update the visuals to appeal to more than just hardcore fans? Alright, but make sure there's still some element that ties it together.
Do it right, and any time period in the universe of Star Trek is open for exploration from any angle.
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They would totally redesign it. It's like a nervous tick they have. They never even intended to redesign the Klingons. It was completely by accident.
Well, technically we know what the Tomed Incident is and what happened at Narendra III. It's just that it's told in a format that isn't accepted as canon.
Exactly! Its basically a clean slate.
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It's not that you always have to look forward and can't revisit past eras. It's that the IP owners have been doing nothing but that. I'm tired of it, and I don't think they've done it very well. I haven't seen Discovery, but it seems like every time a Discovery discussion pops up people talk about having the sense that the writers want to take things in their own direction but can't because it would conflict with canon, so they have to do all sorts of poorly-thought-out contortions that bring everything down.
Now, I don't actually mind writers wanting to take things in a new direction. I write fanfic like this, and I like it. But I've also learned that it's a nightmare to try to do that within the constraints of an existing story. Combine that fact with the obsession for callbacks and close connections to existing canon that the IP owners seem to have, and I have no faith that they can produce a workable midquel/interquel series. If they want to do their own thing, they should go forward to the point where they don't have to worry so much about tripping over the half-baked plot threads from stories written 20 - 50 years ago.
In short, it is possible to make a good series set in the 22nd or 23rd century, but I really don't think they can pull it off.
Yeah, something tells me that I won't be as enthusiastic about that as you are/will be
Honestly a lot of the rants that come up seem to be recycled rants from when Enterprise first aired, and again when the Kelvin Timeline movies started. And not every series has a breathtakingly awesome 1st season either. I mean TNG didn't get its footing until season 3. Yet people are content to set fire to Discovery after a single episode because "it doesn't look like TOS".
I'm still a little critical about the look of the Klingons, but I do have hope that they WILL give us an explanation down the road. And now that the Fed-Klingon War is over, and transitioning into the Cold War we see in TOS, we might actually see some more "Trek-like" stories that aren't grounded in a war effort.
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That, and the fact that it could focus a bit more on some of the founder species of the Federation. I also liked seeing the creation of the first interstellar alliance, and the role that humanity played in it.
Discovery doesn't have many of these things. It's more high-tech, and with the exception of the Kelpians we don't learn a lot about the species that we see.
Prequels can work, if they teach us more about what we saw in the series that are set after it. Not if they seem to form a story on their own, with every novelty just being there for the sake of keeping things interesting for the public (like that one hypermodern looking android crewman on the bridge of Discovery). There is some great character development in Discovery (Burnham, Saru and Lorca especially) but so far it's just a completely separate story.
Of course the series is only one season old, so things may well change in the next season, also given what we saw at the very end of the first one. But even if it works out greatly and this prequel becomes an even greater (the series has really grown on me so far) story that also ties in with the rest of the franchise, moving on in the post-Nemesis time period is also what I would prefer.
There are just so many more stories that you can tell, so many more things you can establish without having to worry about contradicting canon.
And of course we can finally see the Klingons becoming members of the Federation then
Even enthusiasts like Michael Dorn didn't get their series in the end, so I am skeptical towards this being realised. Patrick Stewart seems to have more reservations on reprising his Trek role and based on what I have read so far, he has merely said that he might be going to watch Discovery soon.
Which is of course very different from what all those clickbait-heavy websites make of the story. When I read the headlines on a local (and general, not entertainment-only) news website just a few minutes ago for the first time (after which I came to this place of course
For now I'm going to shield myself against disappointment by maintaining that skepticism.
I'd love it if Picard returned, it would be even greater if we saw the developments in the post-Nemesis (and preferably post Romulus destruction) universe but for now I don't expect much to happen. Everything so far is just rumours with little to no content, except for the fake news those websites generated themselves.
The media:
Patrick Stewart reprising his role as captain Picard?
Patrick Stewart returning to Star Trek?
New Star Trek series being planned?
Will we see captain Picard in the big chair again?
If only there were some substance to base all those ridiculous headlines on. Right now it's just speculation, fake news being generated for some extra clicks and profit, all based on nothing. Unfortunately.
Your right, people are blowing this out of proportion, however Stewart's comment was a little note suggestive than that, he said he "may have good cause to look at it very soon". There's also reports that CBS are trying to work out a deal but that it is far from complete yet and may not happen.
I hope CBS can make something out of it then. A second series running at the same time as Discovery would almost bring us back to the glorious years of end 90s-start of the century
And I hope people will forgive my little rant on the media ... even I need to rant at times.
Then we jump to TNG. The captain is a skinny bald guy. The ship's being driven (in the first episodes) by a blind black guy. The ship's chief security officer is a woman, as is one of the two people the skinny bald guy actually listens to. There's a black guy playing a Klingon, a race that used to be at war with the Federation.
And if you thought there was no trace of fighting for social justice in DS9, well, maybe you should chat about that with Avery Brooks. Or watch the episodes where Avery played a 1950s SF writer, for a magazine with staff writers (including a woman, played by Nana Visitor, who had to write under a pseudonym because they thought nobody would read SF written by a "girl" - shades of Alice "James Tiptree Jr" Sheldon!). Or Sisko's reasoning for not wanting to go to Vic's lounge in the holosuites. Or Kira talking about life under Cardassian occupation. Or... well, let's just say I'm not certain you watched the show at all.
I don't think it was as blatant and rampant as it seems to be in Star Wars these days though. It was more subtle and didn't detract from the actual story. Right now, other than Rogue One, Star Wars is being rather... blatant with the SJW stuff, virtually beating us in the face with it. In contrast, whenever Star Trek ventured into SJW territory... they blended it in with the story so that it didn't detract from the story. It was just an element. Not the focus.
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My issue with the SW sequel trilogy has nothing to do with SJW bias, its the horrifically bad writing and all the fans who insist they are good movies. The Last Jedi in particular had the most idiotic plot I've ever seen in a major blockbuster movie.
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