Skills Invalid

kaithan1975 · May 2018

This appears to have happened to all 3 of my Delta recruits, other characters aren't affected.

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salvation4 · May 2018

Yeah I got this too and just respeced all with the free token to the same thing as I have locked onto a good spec tree..

casualsto · May 2018

I've just encountered this situation on my 3 delta toons. Have you also encountered this on your toons? Have you pressed the forced re-spec?

iron008 · May 2018

Same thing happened to my Delta Recruit, I have several toons and this is the only one affected.

salvation4 · May 2018

I rhink there was a code in the delta recruit rerun that wasnt adjusted to the respec we got at S13..

seaofsorrows · May 2018

Not sure why it happens, but I have heard of it happening to quite a few players.

Good news is that the respec is free, just click the button and re-distribute your points. It doesn't cost you a retrain token or any Zen.

paddy · May 2018

This happened to my new Delta Recruit as well. If we respec, is this going to keep happening? I put in tickets but like always am being ignored by customer service.

postagepaid · May 2018

I noticed this had happened to one of the alts I've been running the MI with as I couldn't add a spec point until they respecced.

Might be unlreated but it's also the same one thats spent the past week having to reapply traits each day.

kf4tvi · May 2018

I noticed this on my new Delta Recruit as well. I think it may just be a textual error and not actually indicating that your skills are invalid, at least that is what I am hoping. That said though, last night I did the mission where you rescue Martok (Brushfire). Everything went normal up until the big dreadnaught at the end, it just wouldn't die. After about an hour of battling outside the battle zone and having to dismiss that message countless times, it finally succumbed to my attacks. One interesting note was when we were in the red, ie outside the intended battlezone, the audio was often muted and we weren't really that close to the edge of the map either. Anyway, that was the reason I even looked at my skill tree, something seemed off. So today I look at the forums and saw this and decided to add my 2 strips of GPL.

where2r1 · May 2018

I am seeing this on my Delta Recruits, too. But thank goodness, I haven't leveled them up too high, yet. So, I hit respec and get the purchase button back.

I am NOT be losing any of my paid for Respecs. I have 12.
But I guess, it doesn't hurt to double check next time I sign in the game...... LOL!

paddy · May 2018

This happened to my Delta Recruit as well. My concern is that I use my free respec token but then get the error message again anyway. It appears to be a bug that the developers are aware of as there's another thread in the bug reporting section; I posted there as well.

I have submitted several tickets but as usual have received no response.

nommo · May 2018

If/whenever this happens I like it it myself. I think it would serve Cryptic well to do this for us players once a year anyways then also anytime Cryptic "re-balances" &/or "nerfs" Skills which sometimes Cryptic does do.

exercitusprime · May 2018

I am also experiencing this issue on my Delta Recruits.

kaithan1975 · May 2018

Apparently this happened when the event ended. Looking around seems the same bug hit when the AOY event ended a while back.

rattler2 · May 2018

My theory was because of the end of the Delta Recruit event, and the Delta Recruit trait was removed since it was only a temporary trait. But I got a friend with a Delta he made during this rerun event and didn't get hit with it.

So in this case I think it was just random.

At least if any character gets slapped with this they get a free respec. Didn't bother me as much. I was able to recreate her spec build, but did go one more point in Engineering than I did last time.

harlequinpixie · May 2018

It happened to my delta recruit, but it wasn't to hard to respec. It's just a pain in the bottom to do it over.

leemwatson · May 2018

"It Happens" (TM)

nommo · May 2018

rattler2 wrote: »

My theory was because of the end of the Delta Recruit event, and the Delta Recruit trait was removed since it was only a temporary trait. But I got a friend with a Delta he made during this rerun event and didn't get hit with it.

So in this case I think it was just random.

At least if any character gets slapped with this they get a free respec. Didn't bother me as much. I was able to recreate her spec build, but did go one more point in Engineering than I did last time.

Good theory as to why.

warpangel · May 2018

Anyone who's played long enough has had the "skills invalid" thing. I've had it many times over the years. It's usually random and no point looking a gift horse in the mouth anyway. Enjoy your free respec.

kodachikuno · May 2018

oddly Ive noticed this on almost all my alts recently... havent played many of them much for a year so gods know when it happened but this thread made me start looking and 6 out of 8 are flagged as having invalid skills. These include normal, original delta recruits, AoY, all types

rndfluctuation · May 2018

Having it on two out of my 3 deltas, only my romulan level 60 delta char evaded this up to now. no other chars affected by this invalid skills bug, and the chars which are affected just show a note "Invalid Skills" beside the "retrain" button (free retrain allegedly) on the bottom of the space skills' page.

The characters which are affected are both bellow level 10 and started to skill their tree late.

Luckily, they could use their boffs and see and chose boff and their skills and even continue in advancing their own skill tree, unlike it is for some other players' characters.

BTW I've notice my chars (all, AFAIK) can't aim - could be related to some change in skills which was made? any other have this?

darkbladejk · May 2018

@casualsto I've merged your thread in with the one in the bug reporting area and have tagged you here so you can find it again. This is an issue they know about already but the report is greatly appreciated. We don't allow bug reporting in the GenDisc because it prevents any possible fixes from being deployed sooner and prevents the devs from seeing it in a timely manor.

with that out of the way folks if you have other information on the bug feel free to leave it here.

rndfluctuation · May 2018

I have that too on two out of three of my delta chars (but without a noticable limitation yet). they are my KDF and FED and both bellow level 10, started to have this before really skilling, I think. My level 60 Rom is not affected.

A player, whom I don't remember name, speculated it could be due to delta trait removed as the delta event removed. My NON affected romulan level 60 char was allegedly finished 50-60 around the finishing day, unsure if before finish or other. So maybe that's related to its difference.

A similar effect we had on AoY term too as the temporary trait was removed , so this could be a valid point

kf4tvi · May 2018

So I went ahead and clicked the retrain button next to the "Skills Invalid" text thinking I would be presented with a window explaining what that button was going to do and maybe why the invalid skills text was there in the first place, and maybe warning me before I continued. But instead it cleared my skill tree completely, had to start from scratch and redo the entire tree, ground and space, what a mess. I feel like an idiot now for clicking it, but at least I learned a valuable lesson, although I did waste a lot of game time trying to figure out how I had it all set up before....I am also guessing that mistake used up one of my retrain tokens, probably the free one. Will have to check when I log back into the game.

reiklingraider · May 2018

Happened to my only Delta Recruit. She was from the first run of the event and a lvl 60 Fed Tac.

casualsto · May 2018

I've respecced, as advised. It doesn't respec specialization points, just the Space/Ground points and wastes another precious slice of your time with a chance of ruining your skill-tree, especially when you respec for multiple toons affected by the issue. No issue occurred further.

where2r1 · May 2018

You know...I collected a BOFF from a DOFF assignment on my Level 60 Romulan. No SRO, so I sent it off to turn into a manual. Off to find a BOFF who could use it.

Clicked on Character Status button, then Skills tab...which brought up the Captain's Skills.
Noticed SHE had the same: Invalid Skills. As all my Delta Recruits did. LOL!

I have to redo her entire tree!!!! Ground AND Space. Totally. NOT. COOL.
I rushed through everyone else to check their statuses....only the Romulan Level 60 had this problem. Thank goodness.

Oddball thing: Delta Recruits yet to earn a single skill point...zero points....required a fake "respec", too. They were all at Level 4...the level I left them at after I collected the Tasseract Device and got them to First City.

rndfluctuation · May 2018

eh, the non affected chars did temporal ambassador and had all traits un-slotted? (can be re-slotted but annoying. still mentioning as I don't know what separates my new level 60 non affected Romulan Fed Delta from my other deltas which were affected before even really skiling. however I don't see visual limitations as of now) or could be because it got around 60 during the end of event (unsure exact point) and did Kobali then (possibly effective level lower than actual in some cases due to area at the end of event?)

I really have no idea. only can speculate as others. BUT really am almost sure what the other player, now I see it was Rattler, said, is somehow the clue, even if it didn't happen to all new delta characters. It happened also to my AoY chars as the AoY event ended in relation to the removal of the temporary (dilitium) trait.

Note: my non affected delta char was also issued a free repec, either that or had it before, despite not having Skills Invalid status on it.

P.S.
It was said before but I want to emphasize/elaborate - If you want to respec note that space, ground and MAYBE also traits are all affected - as players above said. This along with space and ground skill UNLOCKS (bellow) too. If you ever do this respec, take notes/screenshots before you do (for space skills only even beside unlocks, scrolling and multiple ones are needed). And better manually note to self regarding the skills unlocks (space&ground) too. I don't know if boff skills are affected, wouldn't hurt to note/screen those too IMO

Another thing I forgot to mention: if you have a very old char (not a new or old delta char, I mean) with this issue, it could have been caused by previous such event such as a skill revamp possibly, or by a removal of an old AoY or delta temporary trait which was found only now. And on a second though, old delta chars also had possibly the temp traits this time, so could possibly be affected (on previous and/or this time's trait removal, allegedly, or otherwise in other opportunity possibly, as noted) So such existence does not rule out the possibility mentioned by Rattler.

rndfluctuation · June 2018

Sorry I have something to add here (yes again) even though it's a wild speculation still.
1st I want to emphasis this post is written in support of RATTLER theory (not my own idea)

I just noticed the Delta trait icon still presents (WITHOUT dilitium bonus effect) on space and ground for my two affected Delta chars (skills invalid for them without any other side effect) and NOT for the non affected one.

Also I was playing allegedly/most likely the NON affected Delta char when the bonus term ended, maybe that's why it was not affected.

I support Rattler's hypothesis - I do positively think it has something to do with expiration of a temporary trait etc. A similar effect of invalid skills (along with an issued retrain for all characters) happened also after the expiration of AoY temp trait.

So to my wild speculation:

Could it be somebody placed a = check instead of >= (or a similar type of error not necessarily exactly like this) check regarding time or date or a similar condition?
*post was deleted as I as trying to fix an important to fix error, sending again.

darkbladejk · June 2018

The OP to this thread was in New Romulus which I can now see and didn't notice prior. New Romulus scales your character down to the old level 50 maximum. If you try viewing skills in areas like that it can trigger the issue. Had I noticed that sooner I could have provided an explanation. I will be passing this up the chain for the New Romulus stuff.

For everyone else here, where are you guys at when you're noticing this issue of skills being declared invalid? What zones?

arionisa · June 2018

All three of my Delta toons are seeing it, one each, Fed, Rom and KDF, and it doesn't matter where they are. I haven't levelled any of them beyond 17 yet, and, even though I'm getting the Skills Invalid thing, it still lets me select skills every time I gain a level so I have just been ignoring it for now. I figure that as long as I can keep selecting skills on levelling, I'll wait till I'm up at 50 or so and have actually decided what skill layout I want, then I'll retrain.

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