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Official Feedback Thread for the Deep Space Nine Social Zone
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Please use this thread to post feedback and issues found for the revamp of Deep Space 9.
Deep Space Nine Social Zone Update:
Deep Space Nine Social Zone Update:
- The social zone of Deep Space Nine has been updated.
- This includes updates to textures and structures to improve the look and make it more in line with the television show.
- Many contacts within the zone have been moved to new locations to make them easier to find.
- This is still a work in progress.
- For more details, please visit the Deep Space Nine Rebuild blog at: https://www.arcgames.com/en/games/star-trek-online/news/detail/10878734-deep-space-nine-gets-a-total-rebuild
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Yes, it's pitch black.
DS9 pitch black without Lighting 2.0
Dabo is not working for me either.
Some NPCs are standing on their chairs in Quark's and the Replimat
Suggestion: Dabo sounds be added for ambiance in Quark's
"turbolifting" up the stairs? Pets do not follow you. (they also do not follow you into ops, but this seems like a security feature)
Closed door just beyond the Jumja vendor (going counterclockwise) seems to house a trapped NPC
Holosuites?
Small thing: I wish we could sit at the O'Brien's table
All vendors that I tried functioned properly, and I found no bugs with NPC interactions so far.
I LOVE arriving on a ship through the airlock, and seeing the doors roll open. Stunning entrance!
Attention to detail is amazing, everything is really making me feel like I'm exploring the on-screen station
Spiral stairs are a little tricky to master, but a welcome addition!
The ability to walk straight into Quark's (on two levels!) is a pleasure that I didn't know how much I was missing.
Thank you for rescuing the poor NPC stuck standing behind the wall in Quark's for the past several years
The update overall is beautiful. I can't get over the way the lower level Promenade has come to life. Bringing the Exchange, etc, closer to the ring is so much more convenient. It will take a while for me to get used to where things are, but I think it will be much easier/quicker to get to and find everything. Thank you so much!
-Lots of identical NPCs, many doing the cough animation.
-The Klingon chef dances constantly
On a brighter note the docking officer is FINALLY showing KDF players some respect.
It really brings me back to the show, well done!
Few issues, like others have reported: some NPCs are standing on their chairs.
Also, the roaming NPCs, as they navigate Quark's end up walking over the tables near the Dabo table.
I love the docking ring entrance! I hope we get to see more of it in the future. Also, when you reach the turbolift at the docking ring, I'd love to be able to board my ship from there. I originally entered via transporter, so I was a little confused when I walked to the docking ring, and had no interaction options.
OPS is far larger than I remember on the show, and larger than previously on STO, which I thought couldn't happen.
There is a poor civilian stuck behind the door (they aren't on the upper level, or they'd be walking in space).
Additionally, I'd recommend adding a beam out option at the transporter room, like ESD has.
Just a little heads up, there's been no work done on Ops. ATM, its not part of this social zone refresh, even though Taco does want to do it over.
However, they dont promise on being able to get to ops, and it might get redone further down the road
Ah, thanks for that info. It's odd, because it does look different (I didn't do a side-by-side though).
I’m just a bit confused. Shouldn’t the location of the jumja stick vendor/gift shop and the Klingon restaurant be switched?
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> Awsome job on the interior guys.
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> I’m just a bit confused. Shouldn’t the location of the jumja stick vendor/gift shop and the Klingon restaurant be switched?
You probably remember wrong, they took 2600 screenshots
that or Cryptic simply thought it looked better that way, there's plenty of in-universe reason why those 2 stands/shops could have swapped during the 30+ years since the end of the dominion war.
The Klingon restaurant is just flat out wrong if you're going for the look of the original series: there should be more tables around it, if this is supposed to be the same guy from the series he wore a white outfit and did not dance. At best he was a violinist.
memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Klingon_restaurant
Quark needs an upper lip. Or less crazy eyes. Or something.
just a few glitches people standing on chairs or facing not the right way you sit at a table, no door sounds on the docking doors, which would be nice, and dabo not working in quarks! but keep up the amazing work
Business must be going well for Dolgun and Tohmoe. They've upgraded from their little stall to a small shop of their own.
In fact, all of the old vendors got an upgrade.
https://imgur.com/a/ZxBglnd
However, Dolgun and Tohmoe's shop looks a little empty. Other than that one shelf, they're standing in an empty room. Perhaps, you can give them desks or counters to stand behind with some hypos on top. (Actually, the hypos might start flickering, so forget about that part.)
Also, you see those black mugs on the back shelf? Those are symptoms of the graphics bug I've been complaining about since before Season 14. If you light up DS9 without Lighting 2.0, they might start flickering too.
https://i.imgur.com/oK6dzZo.jpg
Flickering ground weapons
Flickering tribbles on Federation fleet starbase
Where's Ahnya-Maahlia?
Did Urgmaht and Targosk fire her, or did she find new employment? Maybe, Quark can hire her.
https://i.imgur.com/FFMZqMm.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/V2bcqfx.jpg
Where's Task Force Omega?
What happened to Roxy, D'Vak, and company? Perhaps, you removed them because you think they're obsolete. But are you sure that Roxy is truly no longer needed? I remember she was needed to fix some people's broken characters or rep projects. Also, if I remember correctly, D'Vak still hails you when you reach level 54 or 55 and asks you to meet him on DS9.
https://i.imgur.com/UGJudTd.jpg
DS9 Shipyard
Some NPCs in the DS9 shipyard have ESD backgrounds.
https://i.imgur.com/bJyheEW.png (Ship Equipment)
https://i.imgur.com/tFIReWf.png (Shuttle Information)
Vanilla, please don't eat this post.
Love the spiral staircases. Fun to actually use the walk command to climb them if I so desire.
What fascinates me is the contrast of original map, its too wide spaces and too high ceilings, with the new, cozy map. It will be an important distinction between the more spacious ESD and this very canon map. Which, oddly, suggests one concern. We just might have too many wandering NPC's as experience on Tribble. Somewhat along the circumference of the Promenade.
But more so inside Quark's. Which is more intimate now regardless of which level we visit. And that is a good thing, IMO. The extras in the shadows, who don't have a primary function, could be moved or done away with completely. The player's will need that space to do their own lurking. Especially on the second or third level.
I'm sure that there are other things to look over. But this is my initial response.
I don’t think so. There was an episode where parts of the characters wanted to eat at Quark‘s but decided against it as station repairs there made some loud noises. They reconsidered to better eat at the Klingon restaurant as it was supposed to be quieter. Now if the location was ever meant to be in front of Quarks this would have made no sense at all.
Really, Cryptic got that one wrong. It’s certainly no big one but simply sands out a bit as an obvious error to an otherwise superb and authentic job of the dev team. Perhaps they can still correct it and even move Martok and Kurn there. They don’t feel like typical replimate customers…
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Yea pretty much that. As far as I recall the Klingon restaurant was a redress of the gift shop in front of quarks and only used as such two or three times in the episodes. The chairs and tables you mentioned were set up directly on the promenade floor. I was always under the impression that it was supposed to be located on the unbuilt parts of the promenade. This would also correspond with the floorplan from memory alpha (location 21 vs location 3).
If they had located it in the “unseen” section they could have easily made it a much larger Klingon oriented area.
Otherwise I’m really amazed by this work of art.
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They were actually in the exact same spot. Jumja in Season 1 (and a little into S2), then got replaced by the Klingon Deli (or that shop, which actually got used for a number of things).
We wanted to include the Jumja stand somewhere, and since we had to fill in the back 2/3 of the Promenade, we put it there.
It's not so much that we got it wrong, as we've made some sacrifices for gameplay.
There were only two, small bar tables, and they were ONLY in the shots that were close up, to make it feel like a restaurant. Never in the shots from farther out, because those tables were just in the middle of the Promenade walkway. While it would be nice to have them, they would eat up too much walking space.
So get your Gagh to go, and go sit in the Replimat.
I was thinking those tables and chairs disappeared because Odo saw them as a safety hazard/security issue and ordered their removal from the Promenade.