So fellow trek fans out there, I pose a question. I am sure this question has been asked and answered before but I just wanted to get some opinions from other fans of Star Trek.
In the Star Trek movie The Motion Picture, is it possible is some way that Vger or rather the joining of Captain Decker and Vger could have in some way given birth to the Hive Mind of the Borg? Vger, lost in space, somehow comes in contact with a machine planet. Could this planet be the home world of the Borg? Maybe the assistance given to Vger by the machine was not what we thought. Is it possible the machine planet used Vger to take what it needed from organic beings so that it could evolve? So that the Hive Mind could be created?
Also if any of this were possible, Wouldn't this mean that out of all the species in the universe the greatest enemy to the Human race is the Human race? I mean we did create Vger.
Ponder on this my friends and tell me what your thoughts.
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TL;DR: Almost certainly not.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=anMOQ3vTy9k
Another origin story actually involves the disappearance of NX-02 Columbia and a mysterious species called the Calier, or something along those lines.
Caeliar.
I loved that book.
As other's have said, there are many references in books and games of even earlier 'contact' with the Borg (Not forgetting 'Regeneration' in Enterprise and ST:First Contact). Although some people will flatly deny V'ger was in contact with the Borg, the obvious similarities between the V'ger Craft and the Borg ship in-game is something that cannot be ignored, especially as CBS has alot of say on the ships that can be used in-game. Given what Spock even says about the planet V'ger ended up at, and the 'beings' that enabled it to 'fulfil it's programming' (which itself appeals to Borg vanity of assimilation and 'learn all there is to learn') we can deduce these must have been the Borg of the 20th Century. However Gene passed away without verifying if this was so. Which is what some folk would say is 'proof enough' that it wasn't. Should his son, who is Exec Producer of Discovery, have something to say on the matter, it would be an interesting thing to take note of over CBS/Paramount's view.
Give the 'limited' knowledge available, and in an annoying pun, of the origin stories we know, the only logical solution to who created the current day Borg, this was in the game ST:Legacy, and that was a Vulcan.....forgotten her name though! If you look at the way Vulcans treated Humanity, their stubborness to accept time-travel to the past, in the early days after First Contact, you get an idea of how and why they struggled so much against the Undine. Both Borg and Vulcans work primarily off logic, hence the hive-mind and mostly predictable status of the Borg. I could get carried away with psychological profiling.....so I'm gonna quit now!
Well... Regeneration was basically the fallout over the Sphere's destruction in the past in First Contact, and basically ensured that contact with the Borg would happen in TNG.
T'Uerell didn't create the Borg. She discovered them and planned to use them herself. In the video I linked earlier, she said they were created by V'ger, and that she intended to replace the Queen when the time was right. Its implied that Voyager 6 was pulled back in time to the Machine Planet when they say that "space and time are warped". The Living Machines essentially created V'Ger, V'Ger created Drones, Drones eventually created Queens...
T'Uerell just learned of them through debris found in the 22nd Century and decided to try and use them for her own purposes. And for the most part she succeeded, but was defeated by Captain Picard in the 24th Century.
Recovered footage of the gorg war:
I went in a completely different direction when I came up with a Borg origin for a fanfic, "A Voice in the Wilderness". http://forum.arcgames.com/startrekonline/discussion/comment/12381983/#Comment_12381983
Short version, they were an accidental creation of the Preservers. I decided later that the destruction of the Preservers by the Borg prompted both the creation of their genetic program from "The Chase" (to repopulate a galaxy overrun by the Borg, hopefully after their assimilated bodies had all died) and the caching-underground seen in the game's Breen arc.
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No canonical evidence that the Borg were around when the Iconians were destroyed. There is the Sleepers mission that states "Species 29 artifacts recovered. Preliminary testing indicates favorable results. Further study authorized, project name "Iconia." Testing for Omega FILE CORRUPTED" However, that is likely evidence that the Borg encountered Iconian relics and gave them the designation Species 29 instead of actually encountering Iconians until recently.
However, there is evidence that the Borg has been around since the Vaadwaur civilization was destroyed. According to the Vaadwaur, the Borg only assimilated a few systems prior to the 15th Century. So if the Voyager probe or Humans were involved in creating the Borg, then time travel would be involved, but the origin of the Borg likely didn't happen 200,000 years ago.
> No. The Borg Collective - per Guinan's description in canon ("developing for thousands of centuries") - pre-date the events of TMP.
And yet they were said by a former drone to have only fragmentary records of events merely 1,000 years ago in "Dragon's Teeth".
So on the one hand, I'd consider Seven of Nine a more authoritative source than someone who only ran from the Borg. On the other hand, this is after all the same franchise where Weyoun 4 said the Dominion was 2,000 years old and Weyoun 8 said 10,000.
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The Borg could have been an extremely peaceful race for thousands of years before they started assimilating races 1,000 years ago. So it could be correct that the Borg were developing for thousands of centuries and they only assimilated a few systems a thousand years ago.
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Even if Borg memories can be stored forever, they won't be stored forever. Using a virus or destroying the equivalent of their version of hard drives would be effective in destroying memories. If the Borg got into a war with a formidable enemy that destroyed a bunch of Borg ships or some Unimatrix complexes, then Borg memories from before that war would become hazy.
After all, a person doesn't take the time to remember everything they have ever had for breakfast over their lifespan. It just isn't relevant enough to be worth keeping track of.
As far as origin stories, the Destiny novels provide a rather convoluted time travel origin for the Borg. Where a convoluted sequence of events results in a multi-layered set of predestination paradoxes that come together to create and then destroy the Borg. The novel trilogy was decent, but had quite a few flaws.