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  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    Here's a thought. They could just put in a throwaway line that he got promoted or retired, and make Commander Sarish the station CO going forward.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,532 Arc User
    I never understood all the Kurland-hate.

    I hope he'll stay in the game and that he won't die.

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    Lol. I agree with fleetcaptain5. I can't understand the hate either. Considering it would be common practice to announce who is calling you, even on the phone, I still do it.
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
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  • leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,532 Arc User
    * Phone rings *

    Me : " Hello? "

    Him : " Kurland, here.*

    Me : * hangs up and changes phone number *

    ROFL!
    "You don't want to patrol!? You don't want to escort!? You don't want to defend the Federation's Starbases!? Then why are you flying my Starships!? If you were a Klingon you'd be killed on the spot, but lucky for you.....you WERE in Starfleet. Let's see how New Zealand Penal Colony suits you." Adm A. Necheyev.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    I never understood all the Kurland-hate.

    I hope he'll stay in the game and that he won't die.

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    Why not both? I'm not the only one who misses the forum fires that we used to have every now and then ;)

    I mean, we have four moderators now. Surely they'd be able to contain a nice warm camp fire? :)
  • smooshy#7462 smooshy Member Posts: 233 Arc User
    Kurland cannot die. Kurland is here.

    Kurland is always here.
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  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    Kurland cannot die. Kurland is here.

    Kurland is always here.

    It is said that the Q civil war didn't happen because of Janeway's decision to let Q die. It simply happened because Kurland wasn't there.
  • fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 5,051 Arc User
    It also explains all the retconning, different timelines and changes in species such as the Klingons.

    The universe simply didn't properly exist before Kurland was here.

    Before him, there was no here; there was only chaos.
  • starswordcstarswordc Member Posts: 10,966 Arc User
    > @crashdragon said:
    > * Phone rings *
    >
    > Me : " Hello? "
    >
    > Him : " Kurland, here.*
    >
    > Me : * hangs up and changes phone number *

    Thanks, I narrowly avoided spraying V8 all over the break room.
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  • galattgalatt Member Posts: 709 Arc User
    I love it when Kurland shows up.
    It's a signal to grab some popcorn and head to the forums to watch the fireworks.
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I never had a problem, with Kurland. In fact I wish he'd just assassinate Quinn already and take over running the entire Starfleet.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Kurland will always be here. Always.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,835 Arc User
    How about we just send Kurland into the Mirror Universe and let him torture them with his inability to not shut up?! Quark will also take bets on how long he will last. All times are in milliseconds. (;
  • defufodefufo Member Posts: 19 Arc User
    I'm a Kurland fan myself.


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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    It is just time for Kurland to go promote him or kill him off preferably kill him off and give someone else command of the station like Sarish or how about the catian Captain from the mission who commands the Madison? I would like to see some of the other races in charge of major installations instead of humans. We got T'nae and Quinn as for Quinn he has been Starfleet Commander for awhile he could always retire and someone else take over. It's just something to keep the game fresh
  • frtoasterfrtoaster Member Posts: 3,354 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    I'd rather have them bring back Commander Karen Andrews. (Yes, I like the voice.) Yes, I know she probably took a kar'takin to the <insert vital bodily organ here>, but they should bring her back anyway.
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  • xyquarzexyquarze Member Posts: 2,121 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    they just need to redub Boldy they rode (last mission for Cardassian arc) and it would be good. problem is they didnt flush out the audio and just have that 1 line of audio repeat every step of the way in the mission... or they could take out all the pop up audio ques and just have the explanation at the very beginning of the mission with a button to bring it back up if you need to look over the instructions again.

    This is basically it. That mission has way too many interruptions, mostly with pop ups, to be completely enjoyable (I actually think the first part would be nice without those and the one walking part to gather information for the first riddle. Unskippable cutscenes are also a bane, but these are short enough)

    I still don't blame it on Kurland though. And as Fleetcaptain, I liked the self-deprecating humor in "Midnight". (Redone later to less effect)
    They do a repeat of the "kurland here" approach to stealth with tuvok during the delta grinding arc.

    Thr "grinding" part should have long disappeared. But yes, "The Devil's Deceit" isn't much better. Agreed, Tuvok speaks different lines, but all this "Now click A, now do B" doesn't make for interesting gameplay, which could easily have been done especially in that setting.

    And since a DS9 revamp is quite probable, it may be that Kurland will get removed (would need a slight redoing of the end of "Boldly they Rode" though). But the problem already addressed is that, unlike in a single player RPG, social zones will be a problem, since players at different stages of the storyline will gather there. So if Kurland dies, you'd have to take him out of DS9. Granted, this can be done (naming on maps from "Unknown System" to "Lukari" or "Dewa III" to "New Romulus", visuals on Iconia) but the more interaction said character has, the more opportunities for bugs appear. And ridicule. Remember Admiral Zella from the mission-that-is-finally-gone-which-shall-not-be-named aka "Divide et Impera"? She was still around after being dead. There's even foundry missions addressing that issue.
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  • gradiigradii Member Posts: 2,824 Arc User
    Some games actually have a system which allows players/characters who have completed certain parts of a story to have certain NPCs exist or not exist just for them.

    "He shall be my finest warrior, this generic man who was forced upon me.
    Like a badass I shall make him look, and in the furnace of war I shall forge him.
    he shall be of iron will and steely sinew.
    In great armour I shall clad him and with the mightiest weapons he shall be armed.
    He will be untouched by plague or disease; no sickness shall blight him.
    He shall have such tactics, strategies and machines that no foe will best him in battle.
    He is my answer to cryptic logic, he is the Defender of my Romulan Crew.
    He is Tovan Khev... and he shall know no fear."
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    I never had a problem, with Kurland. In fact I wish he'd just assassinate Quinn already and take over running the entire Starfleet.​​
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    Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
    JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.

    #TASforSTO


    '...I can tell you that we're not in the military and that we intend no harm to the whales.' Kirk: The Voyage Home
    'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
    'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
    '...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
    'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
    '...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek

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  • jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,835 Arc User
    I can see it now... They kill off Kurland and yet his ghost will inhabit DS9, just like the Dividian's inhabit Drozana. And everytime his ghost appears, you will here, "Kurland, here" and "This is Kurland" until you emergency transport yourself into space without a spacesuit. :P
  • annemarie30annemarie30 Member Posts: 2,702 Arc User
    remove him from command and put him as a tovan khev on the OP's bridge crew, and for every Boff interaction, the OP gets KURLAND HERE....
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  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Delta arc will always be delta grinding to me, it is marginally better but there's still flaws they can't escape such as the time padding as you fly from one end of the sector block to the other either because a mission spat you out in a totally unrelated location or due to the fact the missions were placed so far apart. My personal favourite was being sent off kobali prime to do a single errand for the doc but before you were allowed to unlock a transporter pad that would let you avoid the overly generous spawn rates.

    The missions where you are supposedly stealthy and on your own should be just that. They've used small incidental popups for minor chatter in the game from before than the kurland incident occured. Trouble is timing of them often sucks as shown in the current S&C episode where ships declare they're doomed when you've already cleared the map of hostiles.

    But for the sneaky missions they'd be a much better thing than having someone constantly tell you things they can't possibly see unless they are with you.

    At the very least as a high ranking officer we should have a STFU or I'll demote you option.
  • silverlobes#2676 silverlobes Member Posts: 1,953 Arc User
    I would hope Kurland died when DS-9 got pounded, and that Minna gets the command. The only way I want to see Kurland in-game again, is as Admiral Leeta's BoyToy. Which ain't gonna happen. And I don't wanna see it either... So yeah, no more Kurland, please and thankyou :sunglasses:
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  • shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    They have changed out NPC's before remember the KDF transporter officer executed for incompetence why not have Kurland get killed off
  • deadspacex64deadspacex64 Member Posts: 565 Arc User
    edited February 2018
    i support the death of kurland, 2 dom polaron based builds (along with 13 other characters who had once throughs) one of which i got both cannons and beams...what is SUPPOSED to be a clandestine mission he interrupts CONSTANTLY. "kurland here" i KNOW who the frack you are who else would be on coms? who else would be constantly interrupting someone trying to navigate the exterior of a space station avoiding detection? ever heard of RADIO SILENCE?

    i want a mission where he gasps out his last breath

    ku...rland...he....re and dies.
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  • rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,743 Community Moderator
    Considering the fact Kurland is always seen on DS9 in Ops, and is important to the 2800 Feature Series... I doubt they'll just outright replace him. The Transporter Operator on Qo'nos was not as important and was more easily replaced.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
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  • ikonn#1068 ikonn Member Posts: 1,450 Arc User
    Kurland simply is...

    We owe our very existence to The Kurland!
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