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OH CRYPTIC GODS

please let Captain Kurland die in the attack on DS9 he has done his duty please give us a new DS9 Captain. "YES this is sarcasm" But in all honesty can we get a new captain for DS9 maybe a catian like the captain from the other Galaxy Class in the mission with Geordi
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,524 Arc User
    Or kill him . . .

    . . . then bring him back as an Emergency Station Commander hologram to troll us :D
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,047 Community Moderator
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    jaguarskxjaguarskx Member Posts: 5,945 Arc User
    I would have to agree with this.

    The voice actor that does Kurland's voice has retired if I remember correctly (or at least no longer interested in STO anymore). It would have been nice if Kurland was killed in the current Featured Episode since he would have died in the line of duty (off screen of course).

    Hopefully, DS9 will get a new captain when the next expansion launches.
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,047 Community Moderator
    Its possible Kurland might have a major role with the new expansion. But at the same time they have been pushing Serish Mina more. So who knows what's going on.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    spiritbornspiritborn Member Posts: 4,269 Arc User
    jaguarskx wrote: »
    The voice actor that does Kurland's voice has retired if I remember correctly (or at least no longer interested in STO anymore). It would have been nice if Kurland was killed in the current Featured Episode since he would have died in the line of duty (off screen of course).
    As Valoreah said, Kurland was voiced by a dev, not professional voice-actor and that's why they can't use him for VO role anymore (he still remains on Cryptic in his developer role as far as I know) since, obviously he's not a Screen Actor's Guild (SAG for short) member and STO uses only SAG voice actors for new voice work.

    Well technically I think they can use new recordings of non-SAG members in a limited way and obviously Cryptic can use lines already recorded and in-game. However Cryptic prefers not to use those options if they don't have to or at least so they've implied.
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
    It's just time to remove Kurland having him die in the attack would be the best and let Sarish Mina take over
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,047 Community Moderator
    shadowkosh wrote: »
    It's just time to remove Kurland having him die in the attack would be the best and let Sarish Mina take over

    He's still gonna be visible in the SOCIAL map.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    jcswwjcsww Member Posts: 6,790 Arc User
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    shadowkoshshadowkosh Member Posts: 1,688 Arc User
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    tremere12tremere12 Member Posts: 477 Arc User
    I'd almost pay Zen to be able to discharge Tovan after completing all missions he's part of.
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    szerontzurszerontzur Member Posts: 2,724 Arc User
    I like the death/hologram/boff idea.

    KIA, hologram in his honor(DS9's Emergency Command Hologram), ability for captains to take him out into the field (with special audio triggers to announce "Kurland here!" whenever you zone into a new area with him on the away team or he pops up in a dialogue window.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    they just need to redub Boldy they rode (last mission for Cardassian arc) and it would be good. problem is they didnt flush out the audio and just have that 1 line of audio repeat every step of the way in the mission... or they could take out all the pop up audio ques and just have the explanation at the very beginning of the mission with a button to bring it back up if you need to look over the instructions again.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,809 Arc User
    I never understood all the Kurland-hate.

    I hope he'll stay in the game and that he won't die.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    soullessraptorsoullessraptor Member Posts: 353 Arc User
    I would think that what could happen is IiA (Injured in Action), followed by Kurland getting bumped upstairs to a cushy desk job.
    At least, that's what I would prefer.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    I never understood all the Kurland-hate.

    I hope he'll stay in the game and that he won't die.

    you have to play boldly they rode to understand... "this is kurland here" repeats every step of the mission once you head out of the airlock... it's plain annoying. you hear the audio que and you see a wall of text. it repeats that same process every step of the way on the space walk...
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    postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    They do a repeat of the "kurland here" approach to stealth with tuvok during the delta grinding arc.

    Surely Kurland should currently be locked up wearing nothing but a starfield and his undies.
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    fleetcaptain5#1134 fleetcaptain5 Member Posts: 4,809 Arc User
    tigeraries wrote: »
    I never understood all the Kurland-hate.

    I hope he'll stay in the game and that he won't die.

    you have to play boldly they rode to understand... "this is kurland here" repeats every step of the mission once you head out of the airlock... it's plain annoying. you hear the audio que and you see a wall of text. it repeats that same process every step of the way on the space walk...

    Yes I know and I found that annoying too when I first played that mission.

    It's hardly a reason for me to hate the whole character and see him being killed off though.

    In Midnight it was quite funny to have him suddenly reappear and say it.
    [4:46] [Combat {self}] Your Haymaker deals 23337 (9049) Physical Damage(Critical) to Spawnmother

    [3/25 10:41][Combat (Self)]Your Haymaker deals 26187 (10692) Physical Damage(Critical) to Orinoco.
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    tigerariestigeraries Member Posts: 3,492 Arc User
    Yes I know and I found that annoying too when I first played that mission.

    It's hardly a reason for me to hate the whole character and see him being killed off though.

    In Midnight it was quite funny to have him suddenly reappear and say it.

    it compounds the problem when they have kurland appear in other episodes and they recycle the same line "this is kurland" /shakeshead

    maybe pwe should contract out some voice work to TX where it is a right to work state... can get non sag folks to do VOs.

    worse when they had the episode replay... I had to play that episode multiple times to get the shard of possibilities for my various AOY toons.
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    leemwatsonleemwatson Member Posts: 5,350 Arc User
    edited January 2018
    azrael605 wrote: »
    > @tigeraries said:
    > fleetcaptain5#1134 wrote: »
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    > Yes I know and I found that annoying too when I first played that mission.
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    > It's hardly a reason for me to hate the whole character and see him being killed off though.
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    > In Midnight it was quite funny to have him suddenly reappear and say it.
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    > it compounds the problem when they have kurland appear in other episodes and they recycle the same line "this is kurland" /shakeshead
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    > maybe pwe should contract out some voice work to TX where it is a right to work state... can get non sag folks to do VOs.
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    > worse when they had the episode replay... I had to play that episode multiple times to get the shard of possibilities for my various AOY toons.

    Cryptic is a SAG compliant studio, they cannot have non-sag people doing work on the game now.

    Not up with SAG rules, but as Bort has already voiced Kurland, prior to Cryptic becoming SAG compliant, wouldn't that be an exception to the rule?
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    rattler2rattler2 Member, Star Trek Online Moderator Posts: 58,047 Community Moderator
    Well... they can at least reuse audio, as they have demonstrated already. And I guess the person who voices Admiral T'Nae is SAG.
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    I can't take it anymore! Could everyone just chill out for two seconds before something CRAZY happens again?!
    The nut who actually ground out many packs. The resident forum voice of reason (I HAZ FORUM REP! YAY!)
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    postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Given that she does the majority of the female voices in sto I'd guess they were affiliated.

    Just had a thought that if kurland's voice was illegal because of guild law and needed removed they'd also have to purge the epoh screecher dance screamer voice as well. Happy days.
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    davefenestratordavefenestrator Member Posts: 10,524 Arc User
    Given that she does the majority of the female voices in sto I'd guess they were affiliated.

    Just had a thought that if kurland's voice was illegal because of guild law and needed removed they'd also have to purge the epoh screecher dance screamer voice as well. Happy days.

    Becoming a SAG shop means you only use SAG actors going forward, not that you have to rip out all existing audio from past episodes.

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    sevenofnine13141sevenofnine13141 Member Posts: 4,272 Arc User
    SAG-AFTRA, actually, the original SAG organization disbanded in 2012 and got replaced by the SAG-AFTRA organization which is a union of the original SAG and AFTRA, but that aside, Kurland's lines were either reused again in new episodes as well as recent episodes after Cryptic became compliant with SAG-AFTRA's rules, or episodes that came out before Cryptic had to follow SAG-AFTRA rules. There are also exceptions to every rule so there's that, unless said rule has the line 'No exceptions' in it. So, yeah...
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    saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,395 Arc User
    You can never get rid of Kurland. He'll ALWAYS be HERE... FOREVER!!

    And even if the real Kurland died, Q would probably take his place just to annoy the hell out of us.
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