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  • admrenlarreckadmrenlarreck Member Posts: 2,041 Arc User
    Never give up. Just look at @reyan01 He hasnt given up on a T6 Nova. I want a T6 Vorchaas well untill then I will continue with my FT5-U Vorcha.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    I haven't given up on wanting a T6 Oberth either.
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  • thunder7964thunder7964 Member Posts: 12 Arc User
    When there is a T6 vorcha that lets me use the vorkang skin I will be motivatled to make a KDF toon.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    syrilian wrote: »
    Started playing when the game first went f2p and been waiting for them to add a decent/heavy bop to the c store since(I think they did eventually add a t5 fleet ship). Still waiting.

    Used the chel for ages as all they ever added were cruisers.
    Have you tried the Mat'Ha, or T6 B'Rel?
    Honestly.. yes, I think you should give up on it.

    At this point, it seems Cryptic has some stupid opposition to making a T6 Vorcha for..whatever reason.
    It's more likely that they have a list of ships they want to make and the Vorcha is simply not at the top. BTW, they DID make that one science ship that looks almost like a Vorcha. Naj'sov I think?

    Good ships both but not even close to being like the Vorch or Torkhet. T5U Tork is the best KDf ship in STO. Only thing it needs is slightly better shields or one more Sci slot. The two T6 you mention while decent seem squishy to the Vorch or undergunned next to it. I own these ships but keep going to my Torkhet for the tougher missions. Escorts just don't cut it when it gets rough they tend to be quick go boom turning into clouds of debris while cruisers slug it out without going boom...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Syrillian was asking about a "heavy BoP", not Vorcha.

    Wait.. you said "two" I actually listed 3 ships. I also mentioned Naj'sov. It's NOT a tac focused ship at all. It's actually a Klingon science vessel.
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  • ssbn655ssbn655 Member Posts: 1,894 Arc User
    Syrillian was asking about a "heavy BoP", not Vorcha.

    Wait.. you said "two" I actually listed 3 ships. I also mentioned Naj'sov. It's NOT a tac focused ship at all. It's actually a Klingon science vessel.

    Which is why I mentioned two. I don't count Klingon Sci ships don't fit the culture so I don't use them. Just keep in mind Klingons shoot first study it when it's destroyed...
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Syrillian was asking about a "heavy BoP", not Vorcha.

    Wait.. you said "two" I actually listed 3 ships. I also mentioned Naj'sov. It's NOT a tac focused ship at all. It's actually a Klingon science vessel.
    Which is why I mentioned two. I don't count Klingon Sci ships don't fit the culture so I don't use them. Just keep in mind Klingons shoot first study it when it's destroyed...
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  • thunderfoot#5163 thunderfoot Member Posts: 4,545 Arc User
    "Never give up! Never surrender!" Oh waitaminnit. Someone beat me to it, dammit!
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  • aurigas7aurigas7 Member Posts: 488 Arc User
    edited December 2017
    I check the forum once a month to see if a surprise awaits me and a T6 Vor'cha is announced. I don't expect it.
    But even IF, I guess I wouldn't be satisfied.
    When the Tor'kaht was released, it was the best ship in STO. A T6 C-Store version can't repeat that.
    Conclusion: a T6 Vor'cha would be either uninteresting or unobtainable.
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  • nickcastletonnickcastleton Member Posts: 1,212 Arc User
    aurigas7 wrote: »
    I check the forum once a month to see if a surprise awaits me and a T6 Vor'cha is announced. I don't expect it.
    But even IF, I guess I wouldn't be satisfied.
    When the Tor'kaht was released, it was the best ship in STO. A T6 C-Store version can't repeat that.
    Conclusion: a T6 Vor'cha would be either uninteresting or unobtainable.
    honestly i wouldn't care if it had bad seating or console slots i just love the Vor'cha class since i first saw it on next gen, so much so i have the vor'cha with sound effects from many years ago and 2 smaller models of it one from emeglos magazine and one from startrek armada table top game.

    but your right maybe like @reyan01 i just shouldn't give up (i also wouldn't mind a updated nova either)
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  • warpangelwarpangel Member Posts: 9,427 Arc User
    ssbn655 wrote: »
    Syrillian was asking about a "heavy BoP", not Vorcha.

    Wait.. you said "two" I actually listed 3 ships. I also mentioned Naj'sov. It's NOT a tac focused ship at all. It's actually a Klingon science vessel.

    Which is why I mentioned two. I don't count Klingon Sci ships don't fit the culture so I don't use them. Just keep in mind Klingons shoot first study it when it's destroyed...
    You do know "science" in STO is just code for "Space Magic" and nothing to do with studying anything, yes?

    A "science ship" is the space equivalent of a wizard class in a medieval-fantasy RPG (to go with the warrior and rogue of cruisers and escorts).
  • postagepaidpostagepaid Member Posts: 2,899 Arc User
    Don't hold your breath unless they release it as a threesome with fed and rommie options.

    More likely to see one than we are to get a t6 kar'fi which was one of the original store ships.

    Maybe if we find a dev more open to the klinks as a faction rather than a bunch of misfits with bumpy heads.
  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    Honestly.. yes, I think you should give up on it.

    At this point, it seems Cryptic has some stupid opposition to making a T6 Vorcha for..whatever reason.

    Now that the anticipation has swelled all this time, if they ever do decide to make it, they will certainly put it in a lock box to try and ring every last dollar out of it.

    You'll save yourself time, frustration, and possibly money if you just forget about it and find your 'next best' option.

    Sorry.

    You have a point they did put the t6 scimitars and voyagers and defiants and stuff in lockboxes.

    There are a bunch of ships where the t5 version was c-store and the t6 version is lockbox.

    Um......show your work. The t6 Scimitars, Intrepids, and Defiants are all c-store ships. I have the Intrepid and the Defiant. I'm just overall confused as to what you've suggested. To my knowledge, most anything tier 5 in the c-store that has a t6 variant the t6 variant is c-store as well.

    As for the original post in this thread, I'd say it might take some time but I think yes, eventually a t6 Vor'cha will come, and be c-store to boot. I predict it in a bundle with the t6 Ambassador and a Romulan ship. Part of me had been thinking it might get treated like the t6 Sovereign which took some time to get into game, but the likelihood of that is slimmer as the days go by, we'd have heard something by now. So, yeah, it might seem hopeless, but I do think it's coming.
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  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    with a nice selection of doffs from the Dr. Who franchise.

    (come to think of it, the second thing might happen FIRST.)

    Well, there IS a Martha available.....
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  • ichaerus1ichaerus1 Member Posts: 986 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    lowestlvl wrote: »
    never give up. never surrender!

    we got a t6 connie after all. after years of "we're not making a t5 connie ever" or "no fed carriers ever"

    "No Fed carriers" went away pretty darn quick-like, right after F2P hit. (the Caitan adult-novelty ship).

    but..for a Tier 6 vor'cha? sorry, don't think that's going to happen. y'see, the Vor'cha isn't a slow, unweildy, beam fire at will platform, and it's an iconic KDF ship-and that second part is important, because unlike the almost-a-cardassian-design light cruiser, it's actually got some history to it outside the game, and unlike the Negh'var, it doesn't line up perfectly with orbit-'n=BFAW federation playing styles, or more importantly, existing Federation ships stat-wise. It's too tough to be an Escort (thus, they made a vor'cha-like nose for the Qin derived Mat'ha) and too manueverable to be a BFAWBoat (thus, the Vorcha-like styling of the Klothos, which is just a copy/paste of the Fed cruiser design.)

    It sits in a spot where the shape is iconic and the stats were made to violate the new paradigm of "Klingons get only a copy stat-wise" by having it's own style and function in play.

    and they can't have that. Only lockboxes are allowed to be both unique and powerful.

    Doesn't the Negh'var line have the same maneuverability as the Vorcha class? Same weapons loadout as well?
  • zedbrightlander1zedbrightlander1 Member Posts: 14,782 Arc User
    I have been patiently waiting for a T6 vorcha class ship for my klingon for a while now.

    I love the Vorcha its one of my favorite ships but i also like the look of the new Klothos class.

    So how does it handle and cryptic can you at least tell us if a T6 vorcha is planned?

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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Never give up. Just look at @reyan01 He hasnt given up on a T6 Nova.
    Actually, at this point I actually HAVE given up. The next batch of ships is on the horizon and the Nova class isn't amongst them. Yet another year has passed with the Nova having gone ignored.

    At this point I've actually decided to take a break from STO. I'm not fishing for sympathy nor am I saying goodbye forever. But the fact is I've been waiting almost four years for the Nova to receive attention - not necessarily the T6 treatment, just some work on the god-awful quality, inaccurate, model at the very least. I've sat and watched ship release after ship release. Watched most players get a remodelled (or new T6) version of their favourite ship, all the time waiting for the Nova to get it's turn. And it NEVER does.

    Sorry, but pointless platitudes about how it is "bound to happen" are not reassuring when you've been waiting this long. I'm done. I'll still be posting on the forum, but it's time to turn my attention, and my wallet, elsewhere so far as actual gaming is concerned.
    Enh. It's a long list. Some people said we'd never get a T-6 D'Kyr... well we only sort of did, but I like it anyways. #eventually Patience, wait and see. Posting rants about it won't change anything.
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  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Never give up. Just look at @reyan01 He hasnt given up on a T6 Nova.

    Actually, at this point I actually HAVE given up. The next batch of ships is on the horizon and the Nova class isn't amongst them. Yet another year has passed with the Nova having gone ignored.

    At this point I've actually decided to take a break from STO. I'm not fishing for sympathy nor am I saying goodbye forever. But the fact is I've been waiting almost four years for the Nova to receive attention - not necessarily the T6 treatment, just some work on the god-awful quality, inaccurate, model at the very least. I've sat and watched ship release after ship release. Watched most players get a remodelled (or new T6) version of their favourite ship, all the time waiting for the Nova to get it's turn. And it NEVER does.

    Sorry, but pointless platitudes about how it is "bound to happen" are not reassuring when you've been waiting this long. I'm done. I'll still be posting on the forum, but it's time to turn my attention, and my wallet, elsewhere so far as actual gaming is concerned.

    With Net Neutrality hanging on a cliff by a twig, I think giving up makes sense. Even if they planned the Nova, Vorcha, etc., there may not be a F2P game left even if these will be thrown in the Ultra Mega Rare 1.35 Bn+ Promobox of all Boxes.

    I'm just as fed up with the power activation bug that's plagued this game since I joined years ago - by some miracle if PWE/Cryptic puts some funds into the game to allow a developer to look into the bug and actually fix it, it won't matter anymore as it'll graduate from ghost town status to a desert with the fraction of "F2P" who subscribed to the 'Premium Gaming Packages' the new ISP overlords will demand. All chat functions will also cease to function, for our own protection, but fear not, we have state-sanctioned space smilies.
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  • talonxvtalonxv Member Posts: 4,257 Arc User
    > @alcyoneserene said:
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    > Never give up. Just look at @reyan01 He hasnt given up on a T6 Nova.
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    > Actually, at this point I actually HAVE given up. The next batch of ships is on the horizon and the Nova class isn't amongst them. Yet another year has passed with the Nova having gone ignored.
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    > At this point I've actually decided to take a break from STO. I'm not fishing for sympathy nor am I saying goodbye forever. But the fact is I've been waiting almost four years for the Nova to receive attention - not necessarily the T6 treatment, just some work on the god-awful quality, inaccurate, model at the very least. I've sat and watched ship release after ship release. Watched most players get a remodelled (or new T6) version of their favourite ship, all the time waiting for the Nova to get it's turn. And it NEVER does.
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    > Sorry, but pointless platitudes about how it is "bound to happen" are not reassuring when you've been waiting this long. I'm done. I'll still be posting on the forum, but it's time to turn my attention, and my wallet, elsewhere so far as actual gaming is concerned.
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    > With Net Neutrality hanging on a cliff by a twig, I think giving up makes sense. Even if they planned the Nova, Vorcha, etc., there may not be a F2P game left even if these will be thrown in the Ultra Mega Rare 1.35 Bn+ Promobox of all Boxes.
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    > I'm just as fed up with the power activation bug that's plagued this game since I joined years ago - by some miracle if PWE/Cryptic puts some funds into the game to allow a developer to look into the bug and actually fix it, it won't matter anymore as it'll graduate from ghost town status to a desert with the fraction of "F2P" who subscribed to the 'Premium Gaming Packages' the new ISP overlords will demand. All chat functions will also cease to function, for our own protection, but fear not, we have state-sanctioned space smilies.

    Not hanging by a twig. Voted down 3-2.
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  • orangenee#2931 orangenee Member Posts: 837 Arc User
    Once I see a T6 Vo'quv I'll start dreaming of a T6 Vorcha. I'll hope for neither though.
  • slifox#0768 slifox Member Posts: 379 Arc User
    I will pay real money for a T6 Vor’Cha and T6 K’Vort bird of prey. Real money!
  • alcyoneserenealcyoneserene Member Posts: 2,414 Arc User
    I've heard there's still a tiny chance for the bill in court, and only after that it becomes law.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Never give up. Just look at @reyan01 He hasnt given up on a T6 Nova.
    Actually, at this point I actually HAVE given up. The next batch of ships is on the horizon and the Nova class isn't amongst them. Yet another year has passed with the Nova having gone ignored.

    At this point I've actually decided to take a break from STO. I'm not fishing for sympathy nor am I saying goodbye forever. But the fact is I've been waiting almost four years for the Nova to receive attention - not necessarily the T6 treatment, just some work on the god-awful quality, inaccurate, model at the very least. I've sat and watched ship release after ship release. Watched most players get a remodelled (or new T6) version of their favourite ship, all the time waiting for the Nova to get it's turn. And it NEVER does.

    Sorry, but pointless platitudes about how it is "bound to happen" are not reassuring when you've been waiting this long. I'm done. I'll still be posting on the forum, but it's time to turn my attention, and my wallet, elsewhere so far as actual gaming is concerned.
    Enh. It's a long list. Some people said we'd never get a T-6 D'Kyr... well we only sort of did, but I like it anyways. #eventually Patience, wait and see. Posting rants about it won't change anything.
    "Rant"? Sorry if it came off that way, but a 'rant' is, by definition, "loud and aggressive" and I don't feel that my post came across that way.

    And #eventually is all well and good, but as I've already stated, pointless platitudes about how it will come sooner or later are of little reassurance at this point. As you say, 'ranting' won't change anything - but neither have numerous threads (over the years) pertaining to this nor a Twitter poll (which I will acknowledge did have a 'no promises' stipulation) on which the Nova won 'favourite ship to receive attention' by a 3% margin.

    Eitherway, as I said, STO has burnt me out and this simply expedited my decision to stop playing for the time being and take my time and credit card elsewhere.
    I don't really understand why a single ship out of hundreds would stress someone like that, but whatevs. I suppose if I did fully understand it then it wouldn't be your POV. :p I have a lot of ships I like from the TV show that will probably NEVER get added to STO at all. Or if they do not in a playable form.
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Well the Star Trek ship I want to fly most has never been seen in STO at all.
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