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Tzenkethi Battlezone now obsolete...
reemus
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.... and empty with the release of the new content. The bz no longer has anything to offer compared to Dranuur Beach or Gauntlet STF. You can earn just as many marks or more in a fraction of the time it takes to run around in the battlezone with 3 times as many players.
Is this a bad thing? Not really if you want to get the most from your time... but I consider the battlezone to be a blast to play...but when it is empty like it has been for a week.. No fun.
So, what should they add to the battlezone to make worth running?
Is this a bad thing? Not really if you want to get the most from your time... but I consider the battlezone to be a blast to play...but when it is empty like it has been for a week.. No fun.
So, what should they add to the battlezone to make worth running?
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Are you perhaps pointing out the new Tzenkethi Red Alert?
Just curious because I have not yet been in the RA, nor have I ever been in the BZ.
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BUT unlike most other patches they didn't bother to instigate the usual policy of patch for update then multiple subsequent patches to plug holes.
Which means they either don't care about it as lukari rep tokens are now available elsewhere and who would bother going to the asscrack of the alpha quadrant anyway OR they know its so broken they'd have to remove and redo it from the ground up which would be a waste of time as the damage has already been done and noone would think to take a second look at the 2.0 BZ.
Although I certainly didn't suffer the BZ even before. When it turned out the Advanced/Elite lukemark queues were permanently empty, I got marks from the choice boxes and converted them. But apparently some other people did.
It's all about the effort-reward ratio being correctly done and the rewards being relevant to the current season gimmick, which Cryptic utterly sucks at doing and updating, either not giving enough rewards (most of the queues) or giving too much (CC).
IMO, they should try a variant of the Endeavor system, exclusive to BG and queues: depending on the day, a few queues and BG give a bonus pack of a different currency than usual to match the current season's content.
Meanwhile Dyson GROUND battlezone is almost always busy. You know, despite being ground. Reasons for that are the rewards and it's frankly fun. I mean the rewards themselves make it worthwile, being one of the fastest ways to acquire dilithium and being the fastest way to acquire marks. 8000+ Dilithium and around 300-350 Dyson marks in about 25 minutes. To be fair, that's probably why you don't get anymore maps with rewards like that.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
I have run the Tzenkethi BZ many times back to back the last couple weeks and it seemed to be running fine with the exception of the asteroid soccer field and sometimes only one asteroid ever spawns.... When S14 came out I have been in there about 10 times and you can hear a pin drop... I do LOVE Dranuur Beach however and Gauntlet is sort of ok as far as content goes... mainly bc of the 4mins of "spawn TRIBBLE" midway through which kind of makes it boring (especially when you science the perfectly clustered mobs that warp into the same place) but love the randomness of the NPC enemy each time you run it. The red alert I do like as well.
I am a battle zone junkie (even on the old CoV/CoH I lived in the Rikti Warzone..even had a toon named after it) not just for the rewards but because I like large engagements with lots of players and spawns based on the player size. Makes for some pretty intense fun. The Zenkethi BZ I was really liking a lot and hope it finds a way to re-populate.
Pretty much, I gave up on it after doing it once.
The objectives are a nice change of pace, but the mechanics need some serious work to bring life to Gon'cra.
They need to scale not just the number of opposing ships, but the size of the battlezone to the number of players.
yup, I went there 2x and it sucked (2nd time was just to test weapons). Enemies recaptured points faster than you can take them. It does not take into account the few players there. It's not interesting.
People were expecting to be able to earn the Protomatter Microcontainers in larger quantities than 1. The time and difficulty in holding zones to begin with and the very good chance that even with defeating the three Dreadnoughts you most likely would get no Elite Marks doomed this.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
It's why I wish they would rather than always adding new reputations would instead optimize old Battlezone's like Dyson, perhaps revamp older REP Queue's... Maybe allow us to expand a few new project gear/equipment items... Regardless if it was done by donating REP Mark, DIL, Energy Credit or Tokens to unlock a few new projects similar to how a fleet does it.
It be good every now and then to revisit 1 or 2 older REPs to update or possibly add / expand to them. Rather than always adding another REP as we have 11 now it be nice every now and then to refresh some older content, queue's, battlezone's, reward's, projects, etc...
I'd love to see Romulan Rep finally offer a Republic Ground Tactical Vest / Armor with Republic or Allied Tailor unlocks depending on your Race or Faction similar to Omega with Klingon Honor Guard / Omega / Maco. Other REP could add add possibly a 2nd Universal Console or Alternative Weapon or something else entirely different as a way to refresh some different things originally released awhile ago with some new additions, changes, refresh, or rewards.
The voth BZ is the only one that gives players a good reason to stay to cap a few zones even if there aren't enough players to finish it. As a result, there usually are enough players there to finish it. As opposed to the space battlezones (especially the broken tzenkethi) a player arriving to find it empty might as well just leave since they can't get anything done alone.
No, I'll pop into those battlezones for one section, get my daily mark bonus and leave. Any extended time spent in those battlezones is just a waste of time and effort. Log in, do a section for 1 minute, log out, repeat next day. 10 minutes effort in total to grind up a sponsored toon.
The Dyson Battlezone meanwhile gives you 250-350 marks, 5 elite marks and around 4000-5000 dilithium. Turn in those marks and you could easily hit the dilithium cap. So a days worth of dilithium in under 30 minutes. The reason I stay are the rewards and the missions connected to those rewards. It makes me want to take part.
In three days of minimum effort I've grinded enough marks to grind up a sponsered toon and around 20000 dilithium.
It's time and effort vs reward and Dyson is simply the best for that. Hence why it's so incredibly busy during this dilithium weekend.
Part of what the other battlezones need are missions like the Dyson BZ, giving people reason to stick around.
Daizen - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Selia - Lvl 60 Tactical - Eclipse
Horrible to think all that time and effort went into it only for it to come out stillborn.
Been around since Dec 2010 on STO and bought LTS in Apr 2013 for STO.
If it was the Tzenkethi zone... good luck finishing it.
I guess I haven't had the bad luck yet with it. Have run it over a dozen times (when there were easily 10-15 running it) and the only way we didn't finish was because we didn't kill all 3 dreads in the time limit..
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
The FE is not going to be an FE forever.
l don't know.
l really don't know what l'm about to say, except l have a feeling about it.
That l must repeat the words that come without my knowledge.'
Actually we did have that endeavour. It worked quite well but, I suspect, only because it got enough people in the battle zone to make completing it possible.
I have been playing Dranuur Beach, but it takes a while for the STF to pop. I actually like it. Too bad there is not much interest in it. The question is what to do with the various colony provisions the mission rewards. I am not in a fleet and I am not sure if I just want to simply store them in my inventory until I decide to join a fleet.