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voltreker
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Hi all. Star Trek online is a great game. But with Star Citizen coming out offering a huge universe as well as multiple career options,will Star Trek online fade or will it adopt?
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I'll believe this when I see it, not before.
$45 dollars is "super rich"? Awesome. I hadn't realized how good I was doing.
Game has playable space combat right now, today. It has the most open development schedule in the industry.The people who think it'll never launch are pretty much heads-in-the-sand projecting their petty spite on something they know nothing about. Because of fear. Because how dare something new come along and gamers migrate to it... like they ALWAYS do.
Honestly, they're very different markets for very different games. People wanting true 3D space combat with personal-skill based accuracy haven't been hanging around STO's neck of the woods for a long time. People who wanted multiple human players running a single ship left STO before it even launched. About the only thing you can say they compete on is procedural exploration, and STO abandoned that frontier years ago.
Probably get bashed as much as no mans sky when it does because it was so overhyped way to early in its life with the kind of hype that nothing would ever live up to. Hype is only as big as the individual themselves gives it with the information provided so in that regards SC does have a far better footing. Especially compared to the incredibly light on info and heavily curated releases that NMS had prior to its launch, anyone who didnt have alarm bells ringing and kept getting themselves hyped over the same bits of footage only had themselves to blame.
As far as competition goes its only really got E:D to contend with but as that is more sim than SC is so the market can be split without the need for pointless hating on either one.
I tried it and really didnt like the flight system, apparently its been changed since then but I've yet to see for myself. My other concern is that it'll almost require 3 different control setups to get the most out of it, kb&m for on foot, controller for driving and flightstick for flight (obviously)
They made the development more transparent because of the volume of cash that has flowed into it from backers and possibly the fear that folk would start to request refunds because it has taken so long to get where it currently is. Normal for a something with such an ambitious scope but this is the age of internet bandwagoning and litigation so better to cover themselves a bit before the denizens of farcebook, twitter and reddit start lighting torches and sharpening the pitchforks.
When i want to try life out in space in a science realistic world ill play star citizen, when i remember why games are made the way they are cause real life can suck, and i just want to blow stuff up with a star ship and crew that can't die and escape realistic reality I'm gonna play star trek.
More "Buy to Play" - IE you just need to buy a ship package (between $30 - $45) and you'll have full access to the SC Persistent Universe server. There's no monthly subscription or anything like that needed after the 'box' purchase.
But, will it 'kill' STO? Doubtful, it's really a different type of MMO compared to STO.
personally though I'll never understand WHY people believe a new game in the same general genre will 'kill' another game. I mean did STO kill EVE Online? (Hey, they're BOTH space based MMOs.)
SC will get it's playerbase like any other game; and yes, maybe some people will abandon STO for it, but most likely, some days they'll decide to play STO, other days they may decide to play SC.
YES - You CAN play BOTH. (Who would have thunk it?)
PWE ARC Drone says: "Your STO forum community as you have known it is ended...Display names are irrelevant...Any further sense of community is irrelevant...Resistance is futile...You will be assimilated..."
apparently there are hordes of people that can only play 1 mmo at a time and look at the rest of us funny for playing multiples
It does appear more expensive though just based upon all the SC packages they're trying to presell which has me hesitant.
I'm getting sick & tired of STO's "gambling" mechanisms for the top tier items especially since Cryptic doesn't favor me with good luck LOL so if Star Citizen stays away from those tactics I'll be more persuaded to leave STO.
Star Citizen is a next generation game compared to STO though so I think SC has the probability of being a better game but STO wont get hindered too much.
The bread and butter of this game’s community and Cryptic’s best customers! Does anybody really think they stand a chance in a game, any game, where skill is required and rewards have actually be earned?
No, for as long as those fallas are around we will always have STO. I salute them and gladly carry them through next ISA!
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Big blast of truth incoming.. shields up!
Something tells that by the time Star Citizen comes out, Star Trek Online will have been offline for many years already.
Its like all those so called "WoW Killers" that came out over the years. All hype... but WoW still lives. Same can and will be said of STO.
anyone saying "game a" will kill off "game b" is working on the false premise that a) game companies even want that b)that most people are looking for the "new cool thing" and will abanddon a game totally if something similar but newer comes along.
Neither of those are not strickly speaking true, while there's some companies who value the short term publicity of being " *game a* killer" more then long term profits those generally don't end up being successful, also while there's individuals who are chasing the "new cool thing" most people aren't like that, they simply cannot afford to be and thus there's a lot of inertia to overcome to make them switch games.
Also Star Citizen and STO aren't really in the same genre as far as I can tell, would be like saying that Overwatch will kill Total War series (in case you don't know one is a compative FPS, the other a RTS, well series of RTS games)
Star Citizen is in the vein of space combat simulator. If anyone is unfamiliar with the work of Chris Roberts, look up Wing Commander. So if and when SC comes out... it would be more up against ED than STO.
In the meantime... where's our next Wing Commander game? lol
Maybe sometime in the next 10 years SC will go to beta and finally launch in 20.......Maybe
IIRC TF2 has/had some problems with getting new players due to some bad calls made by Valve, but that just re-enforces our point doesn't it. The company giving problems to TF2 is Valve and not Blizzard.
As for Wing Commander IIRC the rights to the series are owned by EA so, I think "when h*ll freezes over" is the best guess as to when we get a new entry in that series, though we got Starcraft 2 when everyone thought Blizzard had abandoned all other games besides World of Warcraft so who knows.
Yea... I know... they'd probably try to milk it like they do Star Wars if they did. DLC up the kimshee.
I hope Squadron 42 will work for me at last, all the other stuff is not that important, though it would have been nice.
Well? Where is this paragon sans peer of the penultimate MMO at? Oh. I forgot. Still in development, isn't it?
You cannot compete nor attract customers wthout viable product which is in general release. Until this occurs all we have is a lot of hype and a bunch of people who have bought into it all the way. Turns out P.T. Barnum was right after all.
Trust me, no one over there CARES whether they pick up a single player from this crowd. If you like what you see, you'll check it out. If you don't, meh. Stay here and bang out another 45 second Crystaline Cataclysm run or conga-line through ESD. Your fun is where you look for it.
I could roll out timelines and show what's ALREADY been delivered. I could link numerous interviews with developers whose passions are backed by a working bankroll, who have consistently gone after problems with a "lets actually do it right" culture a few design houses I could mention only dream of. I could debunk the Haterade Stand slogans one-by-one but the fact is I don't want to. If you are that passionately opposed while simultaneously displaying complete and utter ignorance of Star Citizen's actual development state, I don't want to convince you to try it -- because then I might run into you in game. And if you actually follow it closely and want no part of it, I don't want to change your mind either. Good on you. An informed position. Hope you find something that does tickle your fancy.