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Tier 6 Vor'Cha and Tier 6 Vo'Quv - are we there yet?
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Tier 6 Vor'Cha and Tier 6 Vo'Quv - are we there yet? the Tier 5 variants of the Vor'Cha all look pretty beautiful to me, if there was a Tier 6 variant, it wouldn't even matter how it looked.
The Vo'Quv is a bit different. It's ugly, and not just in the "ugly because it's a nasty ship that instills fear in your enemies", but also in the "this is still our launch-level model quality and OMG thank good PWE and F2P and technical progress" sense, so I can see that the new model needs some decent work.
But if I can dream, what about a Tier 6 Kar'Fi? The Kar'Fi is such an interesting design. If it had been released post F2P, I suppose it would have been a lockbox ship. So I personally wouldn't mind if you turned it into one, but I guess if the Tier 5 version is C-Store, the Tier 6 one will be, too.
The Vo'Quv is a bit different. It's ugly, and not just in the "ugly because it's a nasty ship that instills fear in your enemies", but also in the "this is still our launch-level model quality and OMG thank good PWE and F2P and technical progress" sense, so I can see that the new model needs some decent work.
But if I can dream, what about a Tier 6 Kar'Fi? The Kar'Fi is such an interesting design. If it had been released post F2P, I suppose it would have been a lockbox ship. So I personally wouldn't mind if you turned it into one, but I guess if the Tier 5 version is C-Store, the Tier 6 one will be, too.
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> Sorry to say but the Risa carrier is the t6 mirror vo in all but name and skin and likely the best we get until they decide the feds need a new carrier to three pack
Kinda sad that that is what it would take for Klingons to get their T6 carrier and Roms to get their first dual bay carrier in the c store
Fingers crossed that we'll get them when/if the Atrox gets a T6 upgrade.
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Yes, that felt like a completely wasted opportunity. (Of course, in dev time terms, making 1 ship is only 1/3 the time then making 3 ships, so it's not like they had a KDF and a RR designer sitting idly and waiting for somethnig to do while the Fed artist was busy with the Fed ship. Still, I would have tried to schedule the project so that I have the resources to also make a KDF and a RR ship, even if only the Federation ship gets a special contest/selection process as it did.)
I will have to check this ship out. I don't have one yet. Thanks for the tip.
On the RR side, we have ships like the D'Deridex alongside the Vastam, the Okhala or the Malem.
On the FED side, you got ships like the Defiant, Prometheus, Galaxy or Scryer.
On the KDF, you got ships like the Bird of Prey, Vor'Cha and the D4X.
I think there is some room for considerably variation within a faction. FOr me the hammer head and the mission pod style thing on the rear still seem very Klingon to me.
These look quite different to me.
This is probably true. And it's looking good still. The model quality and texture quality is far better than that of many older KDF (or any faction, really) models.
It's not *that* great, however. A Tier 6 Version would certainly not be suddenly wreaking havoc. Especially since it would still be a 4/4 Weapon layout (unless something strange happens) and thus something like the Arbiter would still be highly competitive. (And if they give it something like the Pilot spec, it wouldn't gain all thatmuch from the hybrid seat either, at least not by current estimations. If they get around re-balancing the spec powers, maybe that would change.)
Trendy said she was working on getting KDF and RR a carrier but unfortunately she isn't with Cryptic anymore
Even before T6 existed, the Vo'Quv and Vor'Cha only had the Lv40 dil ships or the 4 FSM Fleet ones, no C-Store (meaning no faction account unlock).
These 2 ships still don't have T6 versions.
Vor'Cha is a canon ship of significance as it is the poster child of Klingon warships for TNG-DS9/Dominion War.
Vo'Quv is STO's original Carrier, no T6 version yet.
Speculation.
Well... it IS a 3 Engie station ship. And there's only so many things you can put in an Ensign Engie slot. MIGHT be a bit better now with all the changes since then, but its probably down to the player flying the ship.
Also back then it was a Gankfest for PvP. KDF sneak sneak vape ruled.
You're assuming someone is petty enough to wish revenge on a playerbase over how one ship performed, thus sabotaging their own game out of spite. While I don't have a Bort or Oddy, pretty sure the general layout of both is the same. Where the Bort failed was some of the consoles, like the disruptor autocannon under-performing according to a fleetmate.
So my response to this last part is:
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Sometimes egos do get in the way of common sense
I have both oddy and bort packs and have flown all 6 and tbh the oddy out performs the bort in every way , its like someone put more effort into the oddy and just went half aced on the bort.
your mate is right about the dis autocannon its woefully underpowred, ive managed to get a little more from it with the terran set and naus 3 piece but thats is minimal at best.
it is good at tanking but thats really all it can do.
As far as the vor'cha and vo'quv? way overdue they could release the vor'cha since its an iconic maybe do 3 piece like idk
find 2 more canon ships rom feds and roms like nova for feds and well idk wth they could use for the roms maybe the winged defender?
but two ships sorely overdue imo or T6 and they are iconic ar Vor'cha and Nova
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Can we have just one Klingon thread without bringing all this old stuff up, and instead focus on what we want from the game, without speculating about the inner mindset of Cryptic employees or the inner workings of Cryptic?
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Hmm...they make the Bortasqu'...a battlecruiser which is literally the anti-battlecruiser...it goes against everything that a battlecruiser is...except for that it can wield dual cannons...it sells horrible and they constantly pointed to it as to why they hardly made anything new for KDF, and nothing without a Starfleet variation.
Much later...after they release the Scimitar...the pinnacle of DPS...they release the Ar'kif...a ship with a rather odd and kinda bad layout that has a Lt Cmdr Uni...but the layout forces you to fill it with a Engineer...ship does so bad they even had to add a hangar to it just to sell. They use the Ar'kif as a excuse to never make a stand alone Romulan vessel. You're telling me they can't make a decent ship after they made the monster that is the Scimitar? That making yet another Tac centered vessel in a faction that is bloated with Tac based ships is a good idea? Especially making it the worst of the bunch.
So you think it's just a coincidence? Just some random little happenstance that after they make the biggest bomb for KDF they decided not to make anymore individual KDF ships...you think it was random they made such a awesome ship such as the Scimitar then to make such a horrible ship as the Ar'kif? You think they have a problem with tanking a ship or two just so they have a excuse to not work on stand alone ships for the smaller of the factions?
I guess someone here was born yesterday...
Also, you're ignoring that those weren't the sole reasons why they said Rom and KDF stuff wasn't as profitable. Those were simply examples. If you're thinking of the interview I think you are, they mentioned that all of the bundle packs have the same issue, even the Scimitar sold less than the Fed equivalent.
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