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  • dracounguisdracounguis Member Posts: 5,358 Arc User
    46% of marriages end in divorce... that means that the other 54% end in death.
    Neither option sounds that great! :D
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  • berginsbergins Member Posts: 3,453 Arc User
    Heck No.
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    Weddings in Star Trek are canon. In several formats. Just sayin'.
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    As are the peaceful break-ups.

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    https://youtube.com/watch?v=SQ5TsoDDky4

    Recall also that Andorians mate in sets of four persons. While others mate in pairs. In-game marriages or bindings could offer such choices for roleplayer's. For those who don't roleplay and simply don't care? Well. They simply don't participate.

    Other popular MMORPG's do offer such things as an actual mechanic of the game. A general search will find the games that do so. Often in unique instances which fit the games setting. Some game charge the player. Others don't charge at all. To my knowledge most of those games don't make server announcements. Though I know of some games which offer player titles for display. Suffixes such as [insert character name], Heart Mate of [Other Character Name].

    Cryptic could make the weddings free. And charge for the break-up's. :p



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  • fovrelfovrel Member Posts: 1,448 Arc User
    I want to marry that Lukari woman, all my female characters, Sela and her mother, a borg queen, for RP reasons of course. Think of all the good times we can have together.
  • shevetshevet Member Posts: 1,667 Arc User
    Several of the PW games seem to include a marriage mechanic, so there must be some demand for it, somewhere. Whether there's enough demand among this player base to justify the development overhead... is another matter. (Besides, consider the setting. Do we include same-sex marriages? Andorian four-person marriages? Denobulan interlocking three-person marriages?)

    I'd leave the whole thing just to RP, to be frank. In-game mechanisms look like they'd be too much hassle.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Players can get married in the real world, can't they?
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  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    Players can get married in the real world, can't they?

    What's a 'real world'? Which quadrant is it in?
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  • thay8472thay8472 Member Posts: 6,158 Arc User
    If we can get married ... does that mean the female toons will get 50% of my stuff if we get divorced? :O
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    wow, look at those tempers, I can tell who the women are in those marriages. "Now get off my Bridge and get back into the kitchen!"
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  • nimbullnimbull Member Posts: 1,564 Arc User
    cidjack wrote: »
    wow, look at those tempers, I can tell who the women are in those marriages. "Now get off my Bridge and get back into the kitchen!"

    Fine! I'll leave you to your play pen.

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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    nimbull,

    +1 for catchin what I was sayin!
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  • evilmark444evilmark444 Member Posts: 6,950 Arc User
    shevet wrote: »
    Do we include same-sex marriages?

    If a marriage mechanic did exist (which I do not support btw, I have a wife irl, I don't need a RP spouse as well), why the hell wouldn't same sex marriage be included??
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  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User

    If a marriage mechanic did exist (which I do not support btw, I have a wife irl, I don't need a RP spouse as well), why the hell wouldn't same sex marriage be included??

    Probably because half of the player base would quit the game in protest, with a few sending burning paper bags to Cryptic HQ via vourier. Yes, that is a thing. The UPS guy is specifically told to ignite the bag on delivery.​​
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  • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    Seriously, this is something that is pointless.

    Outside of the Summer and Winter Events and the occasional DOFF mission, the game is primarily focused on the character's career as a military officer.

    Even if characters could marry in game, what purpose would it serve to the career narrative?
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    1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
    2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
    3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
    4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
    5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
    6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
    7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
    8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
  • gaevsmangaevsman Member Posts: 3,190 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    People is weird sometimes... if you want to get married, marry for real, buy a ring and propose, real life is more important than a digital one :neutral:
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »

    If a marriage mechanic did exist (which I do not support btw, I have a wife irl, I don't need a RP spouse as well), why the hell wouldn't same sex marriage be included??

    Probably because half of the player base would quit the game in protest, with a few sending burning paper bags to Cryptic HQ via vourier. Yes, that is a thing. The UPS guy is specifically told to ignite the bag on delivery.​​
    Are you sure? People threaten quitting over all kinds of nonsense, like playable bioships or endgame TOS Constitutions. Admittedly, these are possibly mostly US Americans, so maybe this is issue is really serious. To 0.5 % of Trek fans. They should have stopped being interested in Star Trek since Dax met her former lover...
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  • anazondaanazonda Member Posts: 8,399 Arc User
    angrytarg wrote: »

    If a marriage mechanic did exist (which I do not support btw, I have a wife irl, I don't need a RP spouse as well), why the hell wouldn't same sex marriage be included??

    Probably because half of the player base would quit the game in protest, with a few sending burning paper bags to Cryptic HQ via vourier. Yes, that is a thing. The UPS guy is specifically told to ignite the bag on delivery.​​

    Well then we should let them leave, don't you think?
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  • duncanidaho11duncanidaho11 Member Posts: 7,980 Arc User
    Seriously, this is something that is pointless.

    Outside of the Summer and Winter Events and the occasional DOFF mission, the game is primarily focused on the character's career as a military officer.

    Even if characters could marry in game, what purpose would it serve to the career narrative?

    What did relationships serve the career narrative of Paris/Torres, Trip/T'Pol, or Riker/Troi? Star Trek Online provides a blank canvas for character creation. Episodes focus on specific engagements (because that fits gameplay) but players are welcome to project whatever else they want onto their characters. That's the RP aspect of the RPG. How players approach that pretty much comes in infinite combinations, so while someone may effectively write themselves as a focused career officer (a la Kirk, Picard) another might try to weave a family narrative or a relationship into that (a la Sisko, Sulu.)

    That's what customization across characters and bridge officers gets you, coupled with bios to help keep this stuff straight. It's human story telling. I think the consensus here is that's plenty for RPing. Marriage mechanics (a la Fable) aren't necessary.
    Are you sure? People threaten quitting over all kinds of nonsense, like playable bioships or endgame TOS Constitutions. Admittedly, these are possibly mostly US Americans, so maybe this is issue is really serious. To 0.5 % of Trek fans. They should have stopped being interested in Star Trek since Dax met her former lover...

    Or they met B'ler and Trevana in "The House of Pegh", assuming of course they read/listen to dialog.
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  • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    Seriously, this is something that is pointless.

    Outside of the Summer and Winter Events and the occasional DOFF mission, the game is primarily focused on the character's career as a military officer.

    Even if characters could marry in game, what purpose would it serve to the career narrative?

    What did relationships serve the career narrative of Paris/Torres, Trip/T'Pol, or Riker/Troi? Star Trek Online provides a blank canvas for character creation. Episodes focus on specific engagements (because that fits gameplay) but players are welcome to project whatever else they want onto their characters. That's the RP aspect of the RPG. How players approach that pretty much comes in infinite combinations, so while someone may effectively write themselves as a focused career officer (a la Kirk, Picard) another might try to weave a family narrative or a relationship into that (a la Sisko, Sulu.)

    And that's my exact point. Why create a game mechanic for it if it does nothing for the character's career narrative?

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    Things I want in STO:

    1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
    2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
    3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
    4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
    5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
    6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
    7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
    8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
  • questeriusquesterius Member Posts: 8,476 Arc User
    yeah i was just thinking it would be cool if they let players get married for RP.

    then if they get tired of it later and decide to break up both players could get half of each others stuff.

    maybe if there are ships involved each person could get to use it each week?

    and how many players should be able to get married to each other or should it just be 2?

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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    Let me marry L'Miren (Iconian waifu) and I'll be happy with the option.
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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    Let me marry L'Miren (Iconian waifu) and I'll be happy with the option.
    Heh - 'Which NPC would your character date/marry' would make a good thread in itself :p
    I kinda imagined my character offering the World Heart to L'Miren with the Iconian extending her trembling arm towards it, nearly in tears, with the whole scene playing like a proposal.
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  • cidjackcidjack Member Posts: 2,017 Arc User
    gaevsman wrote: »
    People is weird sometimes... if you want to get married, marry for real, buy a ring and propose, real life is more important than a digital one :neutral:

    The horror, some people live as this game is real life!! (Not me, I am writing this while in the head).
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  • tm706tm706 Member Posts: 334 Arc User
    It's not something I would be interested in, but If the devs found the time, I don't think I'd care either way. If this makes things more fun for some players without becoming a PITA for the others, then who cares . Also, would someone please pass along my offer of marriage to Sela ?
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  • psiameesepsiameese Member Posts: 1,650 Arc User
    edited March 2017
    I'm very entertained by those whose response to the question is to leave it to RP. I read criticism of PvP players that suggest pretty much the same thing. Can't they simply roleplay it and stop wasting dev time on PvP development? Yet, to some degree, games offer PvP support for player's to partake in. Or not, as the case may be. Roleplay support, in this case a wedding-like mechanic, wouldn't be everyone's cup of tea anymore than PvP is.
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  • lapprenticellapprenticel Member Posts: 254 Arc User
    So what happens if someone, or several someones create child toons? Ever consider what would happen if players decided to engage in polygamous child marriage? And what of inter-species relations? Sure Vulcan-human may work, but what about toon-pet or human-Gorn? Might want to think through the ramifications first.
    yeah i was just thinking it would be cool if they let players get married for RP.

    then if they get tired of it later and decide to break up both players could get half of each others stuff.

    maybe if there are ships involved each person could get to use it each week?

    and how many players should be able to get married to each other or should it just be 2?

  • angrytargangrytarg Member Posts: 11,003 Arc User
    So what happens if someone, or several someones create child toons? Ever consider what would happen if players decided to engage in polygamous child marriage? And what of inter-species relations? Sure Vulcan-human may work, but what about toon-pet or human-Gorn? Might want to think through the ramifications first.

    Nice try, but it's a bit too forced since the mechanic already exists in other games and could serve as a template (and none of those constructed issues ever came up with rational minded people). If you want to stir up flames you'd need to be a bit more witty pig-3.gif​​
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