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  • kelshandokelshando Member Posts: 887 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Why are they going with the temporal ops abilities again? We already had the Sutherland class with it last time.

    What should they do for sci ships.. pilot? command? there are already a lot of intel boff seating sci ships out there more then temporal ops.
    T6 Nova wioth Pilot and T6 Luna with Command.

    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.. being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.

    Not sure I understand your reasoning here. There isn't some 'rule' written somewhere that says Command = ONLY cruisers, Pilot = ONLY escorts etc. There are already numerous ships that break this imagined rule.

    Really there is a command escort?
  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    kelshando wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Why are they going with the temporal ops abilities again? We already had the Sutherland class with it last time.

    What should they do for sci ships.. pilot? command? there are already a lot of intel boff seating sci ships out there more then temporal ops.
    T6 Nova wioth Pilot and T6 Luna with Command.

    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.. being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.

    Not sure I understand your reasoning here. There isn't some 'rule' written somewhere that says Command = ONLY cruisers, Pilot = ONLY escorts etc. There are already numerous ships that break this imagined rule.

    Really there is a command escort?

    The Advanced Escort (Prometheus) has a Lt. Command slot. Intel is spread out over all ship types, temporal is also spread over all. Command is on almost all and only Pilot is afaik limited to Escort type ships so far (was thought to happen on the sovvie and a hypothetical T6 Vor'cha though).
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Why are they going with the temporal ops abilities again? We already had the Sutherland class with it last time.
    What should they do for sci ships.. pilot? command? there are already a lot of intel boff seating sci ships out there more then temporal ops.
    T6 Nova wioth Pilot and T6 Luna with Command.
    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.. being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.
    Not sure I understand your reasoning here. There isn't some 'rule' written somewhere that says Command = ONLY cruisers, Pilot = ONLY escorts etc. There are already numerous ships that break this imagined rule.
    Really there is a command escort?
    The Advanced Escort (Prometheus) has a Lt. Command slot. Intel is spread out over all ship types, temporal is also spread over all. Command is on almost all and only Pilot is afaik limited to Escort type ships so far (was thought to happen on the sovvie and a hypothetical T6 Vor'cha though).
    Pilot is on the Ferengi summer event ship. It's not quite the same as an escort though it is tac focused.
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  • toivatoiva Member Posts: 3,276 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Why are they going with the temporal ops abilities again? We already had the Sutherland class with it last time.
    What should they do for sci ships.. pilot? command? there are already a lot of intel boff seating sci ships out there more then temporal ops.
    T6 Nova wioth Pilot and T6 Luna with Command.
    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.. being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.
    Not sure I understand your reasoning here. There isn't some 'rule' written somewhere that says Command = ONLY cruisers, Pilot = ONLY escorts etc. There are already numerous ships that break this imagined rule.
    Really there is a command escort?
    The Advanced Escort (Prometheus) has a Lt. Command slot. Intel is spread out over all ship types, temporal is also spread over all. Command is on almost all and only Pilot is afaik limited to Escort type ships so far (was thought to happen on the sovvie and a hypothetical T6 Vor'cha though).
    Pilot is on the Ferengi summer event ship. It's not quite the same as an escort though it is tac focused.
    Well, the Nandi is a destroyer. I generally consider destroyers, escorts, heavy escorts, escort carriers and raiders to be of "Escort type" (obviously there's differences between them).
    TOIVA, Toi Vaxx, Toia Vix, Toveg, T'vritha, To Vrax: Bring in the Allegiance class.
    Toi'Va, Ti'vath, Toivia, Ty'Vris, Tia Vex, Toi'Virth: Add Tier 6 KDF Carrier and Raider.
    Tae'Va, T'Vaya, To'Var, Tevra, T'Vira, To'Vrak: Give us Asylums for Romulans.

    Don't make ARC mandatory! Keep it optional only!
  • sanokskyratsanokskyrat Member Posts: 479 Media Corps
    Doesn't stay with they have Advance Quantum Slipstream or the Aux Cannons for Romulan and Klingon! Also where are the Kestral Runabouts?!
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  • themadprofessor#9835 themadprofessor Member Posts: 1,203 Arc User
    Doesn't stay with they have Advance Quantum Slipstream or the Aux Cannons for Romulan and Klingon! Also where are the Kestral Runabouts?!

    Dev Word is that all three types will have Aux Cannons for their faction (Fed-Phasers, KDF-Disruptors, RR-Plasma).

    Don't know about and AQS.

    I think the Scorpions are used because they are the only cinematically canonical fighters that are worthy of being called fighters.

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    Things I want in STO:

    1) More character customization options such as more clothing options, letting the toon complexion affect the entire body, not just the head. Also a true RGB color picker applied to all costume and appearance options, which would allow for true appearance customization and homogenous colors instead of "this same exact color looks vastly different on two different pieces."
    2) Bridge customization, not bridge packs. Let us pick a general layout and adjust the color palette, console appearance, and chair types, as well as more ready room layout options.
    3) Customizable ground weapons, i.e. The aesthetic look of phaser dual pistols but they shoot antiproton bolts. For obvious reasons this would only apply to standard ground weapons.
    4) For the love of Q please revamp Plasma Ground Weapons. They look like demented Supersoakers right now.
    5) True Vanity Impulse and Deflector effects similar to Vanity Shields.
    6) A greater payout for hitting T6 Reputations. Currently it takes more time and resources to get from T5 to T6 than it does to get from nothing to T5. Make that grind really pay out at the end.
    7) Mirrorverse Refugee event similar to AoY/Delta/Gamma, complete with new Mirrorverse recruits for all factions.
    8) Independent Faction, because yo ho yo ho a pirate's life for me!
  • rtk142rtk142 Member Posts: 613 Arc User
    toiva wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    reyan01 wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    Why are they going with the temporal ops abilities again? We already had the Sutherland class with it last time.

    What should they do for sci ships.. pilot? command? there are already a lot of intel boff seating sci ships out there more then temporal ops.
    T6 Nova wioth Pilot and T6 Luna with Command.

    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.. being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.

    Not sure I understand your reasoning here. There isn't some 'rule' written somewhere that says Command = ONLY cruisers, Pilot = ONLY escorts etc. There are already numerous ships that break this imagined rule.

    Really there is a command escort?

    The Advanced Escort (Prometheus) has a Lt. Command slot. Intel is spread out over all ship types, temporal is also spread over all. Command is on almost all and only Pilot is afaik limited to Escort type ships so far (was thought to happen on the sovvie and a hypothetical T6 Vor'cha though).

    But, to my knowledge, there is no escort with a Commander Command seat. That's something I'd love to see.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    I am even considering using the tactical version for my main tactical toon when I don't usually use science ships with them.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    I was pretty much under the impression they would do a fourth set bonus just like last years ships so I did bother with it.
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  • orangeitisorangeitis Member Posts: 5,222 Arc User
    kelshando wrote: »
    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.
    That's precisely why they need to have Pilot and Command seating. There are none on Z-store Science-oriented ships yet.
    kelshando wrote: »
    being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.
    According to what?
  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    reyan01 wrote: »
    avoozuul wrote: »
    I was pretty much under the impression they would do a fourth set bonus just like last years ships so I did bother with it.
    Yeah. Still think it's a rubbish thing to do.
    Why? just because it's LE?
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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    orangeitis wrote: »
    kelshando wrote: »
    Why though.. they are sci ships.. they are all 5 sci console, 3/3 load outs and such.
    That's precisely why they need to have Pilot and Command seating. There are none on Z-store Science-oriented ships yet.
    kelshando wrote: »
    being pilot or command makes no sense as they are sci ships.
    According to what?

    Scout ships would make for excellent pilot science ships.
  • sanokskyratsanokskyrat Member Posts: 479 Media Corps
    Also if you guys could ALSO add the admiralty cards with the stats that would be awesome.
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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    I wonder when the next ship sale is going to be?
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  • haxxsaw#9362 haxxsaw Member Posts: 77 Arc User
    patrickngo wrote: »
    I wonder when the next ship sale is going to be?

    It'll be when it is. Generally they run them about every six months or so, usually in a rotation where you'll have a zen sale, a dilithium event, some Q thing, and then a ship sale.

    usually.

    We know the stats now. The gorn ship is..a gorn ship. Means it takes a hit to turn rate and shield multiplier for an extra 2k hull hitpoints, doesn't come with pets capability and generally falls into the mold of the Varanus, as being the worst choice of the three.

    for those about to erupt in storms of protecting cryptic, "Not as good" isn't the same as "Outright bad". It's a decent ship for a faction starved of options, but it's still not as good as the ships for the Fed or Romulan side.

    What?

    KDF MM ships are Gorn...but they sure do have pets capabilities. Why are you posting wrong information? Not only does it have pets, but they created a new one for these KDF ships.
  • crm14916crm14916 Member Posts: 1,532 Arc User
    I'm kicking myself because I didn't know they were even released yet, let alone on sale for that very short weekend...

    Here I am impatiently awaiting the next ship sale...

    CM
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    they weren't on sale. everything else was on sale.
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  • avoozuulavoozuul Member Posts: 3,215 Arc User
    edited February 2017
    I don't see why people dislike the idea of science ships having a pilot specialization, in the shows there were science ships which were considered the fastest in the fleet, so if some science ships were known for speed then perhaps a pilot science ship would make sense.
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  • lordgyorlordgyor Member Posts: 2,820 Arc User
    I agree, a different specialization would make them more different from the 31st Century Eternal Multimission Science Ship.
  • odinforever20000odinforever20000 Member Posts: 1,849 Arc User
    Doesn't stay with they have Advance Quantum Slipstream or the Aux Cannons for Romulan and Klingon! Also where are the Kestral Runabouts?!

    Dev Word is that all three types will have Aux Cannons for their faction (Fed-Phasers, KDF-Disruptors, RR-Plasma).

    Don't know about and AQS.

    I think the Scorpions are used because they are the only cinematically canonical fighters that are worthy of being called fighters.

    Yup all 3 types for Aux cannons exists and are faction specific...But..if your runing the ship as a sci vessel (with Drain, Control or EPG types) any aux cannon will TRIBBLE up something in your sci abilites..Weather that be damage...Duration..potency...ect

    Chroniton Integrated SlipStream is a part of the Fed T5 MMSV set...Rom and KDF dont have access to it and they all come with a standard slip stream drive.

    ..So I kinda like that these MMSV have access to the Temporal Abilities up through LTC in a Universal seat. First time on both KDF and Rom.So it gives them some flexibility. So far there are no RR or KDF Sci vessels for the current time period (25c) that have commander level Temporal Seat..Those must only exist in the future ..:P

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