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Cylons r coming..
evilestkhan
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so what if..!
Galactica and their fleet got too earth, and met up with the feds.. and the the Cylons attacked earth.
how long do you think they will last, considering the feds are battle tested.
Galactica and their fleet got too earth, and met up with the feds.. and the the Cylons attacked earth.
how long do you think they will last, considering the feds are battle tested.
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The original cylons or the reimagined Cylons
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Depends on which version of Cylon they, the originals would be an even match for mid 23rd Century Starfleet in a straight up brawl.
The reimagined Cyllons would be more insidious by infiltrating the Federation first with their skinjobs and then when the fleet arrives, they sabotage the Federation computer networks and defences. The Cylon fleet then hacks the Starfleet vessels disabling them. It was shown in "The Plan" the effects of Cylon hacking technology.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
As long as they have a Resurrection ship nearby out of the way, they can just keep replacing their losses, Scar was a classic example. Every time he was shot down, he came back faster and smarter than the last time.
The Cylons have that ability to adapt and counter as and when the situation requires it, Cylons never are complacent either. The Federation has this nasty habit of becoming complacent when things quieten down, the Cylons are always prepared and will play the waiting game.
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Transporters for the win.
There is also the sheer difference in technological level. A Federation Starship would have a much longer detection range than anything the Cylons have. Not only that, the Federation isn't reliant on Kinetic Energy Weapons and Nukes for weapons. Compared to a Photon Torpedo's matter/antimatter warhead, a Nuke is a firecracker. And the range of Federation FTL capability is not capped off at 30 something lightyears or so per jump.
Then we come to tactics themselves. Cylon forces are HEAVILY reliant on their fighters and Heavy Raiders to engage other capital ships. The Baseships themselves, while capable of engaging other ships, are actually pretty fragile and only have missiles to fight with. A Federation fleet would wipe the floor with any Baseships on that alone, being able to engage them directly with phasers and torpedos, and even a Sovereign class starship could outmaneuver a Baseship.
No matter how you put it... it is advantage: Federation.
Galactica working tandem with Pegasus wrecking baseships proved that, baseships don't take sustained barrage too well
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
And that's against ships with the same level of technology. Now take that against a Galaxy class Starship's phaser arrays as seen in Best of Both Worlds.
Two Galaxys working in tandem is bad enough, that infamous scene from sacrifice of angels where they wrecked a Galor. Cylon baseships would not stand a chance in a prolonged engagement
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
Good point. 30 lightyears is three days at maximum warp for TNG/DS9/VOY era Federation ships (based on 15 LY taking "two days" for Voyager in the episode "Hope and Fear"). If the Cylons can make repeated jumps with less than a 24-hour interval, then they can outrun Federation ships as long as they can avoid being shot down before they make their first jump. (Unless of course we are talking 2410-era ships in STO which can do short bursts of Quantum Slipstream Drive).
which apparently went out the window by the 2400s
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Starfleet would detect the transmissions to the ship and destroy it. Resurrection ship = destroyed.
Winning.
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tr;dr, I am winning last post wins 3.0. Thank you for your time.
totaly agree
Norway and Yeager dammit... I still want my Typhoon and Jupiter though.
JJ Trek The Kelvin Timeline is just Trek and it's fully canon... get over it. But I still prefer TAR.
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'Starfleet is not a military organisation. Its purpose is exploration.' Picard: Peak Performance
'This is clearly a military operation. Is that what we are now? Because I thought we were explorers!' Scotty: Into Darkness
'...The Federation. Starfleet. We're not a military agency.' Scotty: Beyond
'I'm not a soldier anymore. I'm an engineer.' Miles O'Brien: Empok Nor
'...Starfleet could use you... It's a peacekeeping and humanitarian armada...' Admiral Pike: Star Trek
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Problem with Cylon fold tech:
1. Extreme long range sensors, etc., could pick up the trip(s). Feddies will know of range limitation in days.
2. Does it have the usual "we have to know where we're going, and that it's safe, so that we can get there" limitation? So it needs to be scouted, etc.
Especially if #2 is in play (we need to know the jump site), then the Cylon's days are numbered.
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Although seeing Galactica jump into a planet's atmosphere and fall until she deployed her Vipers was kinda epic. Would have been one helluva psych out if the enemy wasn't machines.
The Adama manoeuvre
-Lord Commander Solar Macharius
On of my favorites is the opposed wings of vipers swirling in and amongst each other on the verge of furballing their counterparts with extreme prejudice... and then they pick up one cylon signal and both wings roll en mass to form up ready to KILL those toasters.
That was a thing of beauty.