Husnock warship.. that wasn't a Husnock warship in the show... we never saw what a Husnock ship looked like.. that ship we saw was conjured by the alien on the planet.
Kevin Uxbridge, the Douwd that wiped out the Husnock, was on Delta Rana IV when the Husnock attacked the colony. The Douwd are described as immortal beings with vast powers. Obviously, this is a fact since he was able to annihilate the Husnock species with a thought. Anyway, he had to know what they, the Husnock, and their ships looked like. It's rather likely he used that to create his fabrication of the warship.
In correct.. he said that he conjured that ship to try to stop the but that it only make them more aggressive. He wouldn't of conjured there own ships to try to scare them off. So we never saw what a Husnock or there ships looked like.
Kevin Uxbridge never said he conjured a ship to scare off the Husnock. He said that he tried to trick them, but did not specify how. All the sources I've ever found concerning this episode refer to the vessel as Husnock Warship.
yes he did.. he said I tried to trick them in the same way I tried to trick you... not sure how hard you looked but its not a Husnock warship in the show its a Delta Rana warship... http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Rana_warship
Quote at the bottom of the page states - "The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown."
Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Husnock warship.. that wasn't a Husnock warship in the show... we never saw what a Husnock ship looked like.. that ship we saw was conjured by the alien on the planet.
Kevin Uxbridge, the Douwd that wiped out the Husnock, was on Delta Rana IV when the Husnock attacked the colony. The Douwd are described as immortal beings with vast powers. Obviously, this is a fact since he was able to annihilate the Husnock species with a thought. Anyway, he had to know what they, the Husnock, and their ships looked like. It's rather likely he used that to create his fabrication of the warship.
In correct.. he said that he conjured that ship to try to stop the but that it only make them more aggressive. He wouldn't of conjured there own ships to try to scare them off. So we never saw what a Husnock or there ships looked like.
Kevin Uxbridge never said he conjured a ship to scare off the Husnock. He said that he tried to trick them, but did not specify how. All the sources I've ever found concerning this episode refer to the vessel as Husnock Warship.
yes he did.. he said I tried to trick them in the same way I tried to trick you... not sure how hard you looked but its not a Husnock warship in the show its a Delta Rana warship... http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Rana_warship
Quote at the bottom of the page states - "The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown."
Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Wow seriously? The script for the actual episode said that it was a Husnock ship. What else do you want? ...of course the ship wasn't listed in the federation classification index it was the first time a federation ship had encountered a Husnock Vessel, albeit a recreation of one.
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The old TNG card game even listed it as a Husnock ship if I remember correctly. Affiliation: Non aligned.
The K'Vort would be relatively easy to add in game example....
1.) Take B'rel model in-game increase in size 1.5-2x, make wings locked in flight position.
2.) Copy-paste Andorian Kumari template for 5/2 weapons with Disruptor wing cannons and basic stats
3.) Add Battlecruiser commands, Battlecruiser Mastery skills, and KDF cloak
4.) Add new texture (probably the most time consuming)
5.) Sell new T6 KDF K'vort class in c-store for profit
Husnock warship.. that wasn't a Husnock warship in the show... we never saw what a Husnock ship looked like.. that ship we saw was conjured by the alien on the planet.
Kevin Uxbridge, the Douwd that wiped out the Husnock, was on Delta Rana IV when the Husnock attacked the colony. The Douwd are described as immortal beings with vast powers. Obviously, this is a fact since he was able to annihilate the Husnock species with a thought. Anyway, he had to know what they, the Husnock, and their ships looked like. It's rather likely he used that to create his fabrication of the warship.
In correct.. he said that he conjured that ship to try to stop the but that it only make them more aggressive. He wouldn't of conjured there own ships to try to scare them off. So we never saw what a Husnock or there ships looked like.
Kevin Uxbridge never said he conjured a ship to scare off the Husnock. He said that he tried to trick them, but did not specify how. All the sources I've ever found concerning this episode refer to the vessel as Husnock Warship.
yes he did.. he said I tried to trick them in the same way I tried to trick you... not sure how hard you looked but its not a Husnock warship in the show its a Delta Rana warship... http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Rana_warship
Quote at the bottom of the page states - "The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown."
Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Wow seriously? The script for the actual episode said that it was a Husnock ship. What else do you want? ...of course the ship wasn't listed in the federation classification index it was the first time a federation ship had encountered a Husnock Vessel, albeit a recreation of one.
Are you kidding me.. its a script.. not lore or such.. its was named so that that could refer it as something...
I swear have you even watched the episode? The episode never shows a Husnock... ever... the only ship it showed was the created one and he says he used the same trick to drive the Husnock away... that also was in the script... use some common sense here... If he created the same ship to try to trick the Husnock and the Enterprise.. then that created ship was not a Husnock warship.
Also as a fabrication its not even a real ship.. same with the Pathfinder... as it was just a holographic ship. Ya ya I know they added it to the game.. but it was never a real class of ship.. same as the Delta Rana warship
Husnock warship.. that wasn't a Husnock warship in the show... we never saw what a Husnock ship looked like.. that ship we saw was conjured by the alien on the planet.
Kevin Uxbridge, the Douwd that wiped out the Husnock, was on Delta Rana IV when the Husnock attacked the colony. The Douwd are described as immortal beings with vast powers. Obviously, this is a fact since he was able to annihilate the Husnock species with a thought. Anyway, he had to know what they, the Husnock, and their ships looked like. It's rather likely he used that to create his fabrication of the warship.
In correct.. he said that he conjured that ship to try to stop the but that it only make them more aggressive. He wouldn't of conjured there own ships to try to scare them off. So we never saw what a Husnock or there ships looked like.
Kevin Uxbridge never said he conjured a ship to scare off the Husnock. He said that he tried to trick them, but did not specify how. All the sources I've ever found concerning this episode refer to the vessel as Husnock Warship.
yes he did.. he said I tried to trick them in the same way I tried to trick you... not sure how hard you looked but its not a Husnock warship in the show its a Delta Rana warship... http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Rana_warship
Quote at the bottom of the page states - "The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown."
Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Wow seriously? The script for the actual episode said that it was a Husnock ship. What else do you want? ...of course the ship wasn't listed in the federation classification index it was the first time a federation ship had encountered a Husnock Vessel, albeit a recreation of one.
Are you kidding me.. its a script.. not lore or such.. its was named so that that could refer it as something...
I swear have you even watched the episode? The episode never shows a Husnock... ever... the only ship it showed was the created one and he says he used the same trick to drive the Husnock away... that also was in the script... use some common sense here... If he created the same ship to try to trick the Husnock and the Enterprise.. then that created ship was not a Husnock warship.
Also as a fabrication its not even a real ship.. same with the Pathfinder... as it was just a holographic ship. Ya ya I know they added it to the game.. but it was never a real class of ship.. same as the Delta Rana warship
Yeah you're probably right. The script for the episode is wrong and even though the writers said it was a recreation of Husnock vessel it obviously wasn't because you said it's not canon.
Husnock warship.. that wasn't a Husnock warship in the show... we never saw what a Husnock ship looked like.. that ship we saw was conjured by the alien on the planet.
Kevin Uxbridge, the Douwd that wiped out the Husnock, was on Delta Rana IV when the Husnock attacked the colony. The Douwd are described as immortal beings with vast powers. Obviously, this is a fact since he was able to annihilate the Husnock species with a thought. Anyway, he had to know what they, the Husnock, and their ships looked like. It's rather likely he used that to create his fabrication of the warship.
In correct.. he said that he conjured that ship to try to stop the but that it only make them more aggressive. He wouldn't of conjured there own ships to try to scare them off. So we never saw what a Husnock or there ships looked like.
Kevin Uxbridge never said he conjured a ship to scare off the Husnock. He said that he tried to trick them, but did not specify how. All the sources I've ever found concerning this episode refer to the vessel as Husnock Warship.
yes he did.. he said I tried to trick them in the same way I tried to trick you... not sure how hard you looked but its not a Husnock warship in the show its a Delta Rana warship... http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Delta_Rana_warship
Quote at the bottom of the page states - "The recreated warship was a Husnock vessel, according to notes in the script, but whether or not the recreation was as or more powerful than the original remains unknown."
Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Wow seriously? The script for the actual episode said that it was a Husnock ship. What else do you want? ...of course the ship wasn't listed in the federation classification index it was the first time a federation ship had encountered a Husnock Vessel, albeit a recreation of one.
Are you kidding me.. its a script.. not lore or such.. its was named so that that could refer it as something...
I swear have you even watched the episode? The episode never shows a Husnock... ever... the only ship it showed was the created one and he says he used the same trick to drive the Husnock away... that also was in the script... use some common sense here... If he created the same ship to try to trick the Husnock and the Enterprise.. then that created ship was not a Husnock warship.
Also as a fabrication its not even a real ship.. same with the Pathfinder... as it was just a holographic ship. Ya ya I know they added it to the game.. but it was never a real class of ship.. same as the Delta Rana warship
Yeah you're probably right. The script for the episode is wrong and even though the writers said it was a recreation of Husnock vessel it obviously wasn't because you said it's not canon.
Ya because wiki said it was so... you do know anyone can edit wiki right? Great way of ignoring what was actually in the episode....
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rattler2Member, Star Trek Online ModeratorPosts: 58,588Community Moderator
Are you kidding me.. its a script.. not lore or such.. its was named so that that could refer it as something...
I swear have you even watched the episode? The episode never shows a Husnock... ever... the only ship it showed was the created one and he says he used the same trick to drive the Husnock away... that also was in the script... use some common sense here... If he created the same ship to try to trick the Husnock and the Enterprise.. then that created ship was not a Husnock warship.
Also as a fabrication its not even a real ship.. same with the Pathfinder... as it was just a holographic ship. Ya ya I know they added it to the game.. but it was never a real class of ship.. same as the Delta Rana warship
He also didn't specify if he used the same SHIP for the same trick. he could have used a different one on the Husnock, and used a Husnock on the Enterprise.
It's not opinion, its fact.
The on-screen evidence supersedes that of which originates from tech manuals and backstage sources.
Ok we go to screen only.
Fact:
The most name it was called was Bird of Prey. In many of the shows and even the first time is showed up in Star Trek III. So in reality is should be called the Bird of Prey.
However they also called it the K'vort on 1 episodes of TNG. "Yesterdays Enterprise". And in Deep Space 9 in the episode "Penumbra" Then again in Voyager in the "Drone" episode. So in reality this name type was used the most.
Then in Generations they called it a D12.
And finally the B'Rel like once which you stated in TNG Rascals.
So in reality with 3 (or 4 if you count the BOP only reference) different name types used for a ship. There has to be some differences in them to note a different name. Or unless their dialog was really messed up over the years to describe 1 ship type.
Sizing Fact:
Granted we never saw them both next to each other to show a true size. However what we have is we know the BOP is small ship. Now in some of the screens they show it very large. When next to the Galaxy when they referred it to the "K'vort" name. Now that could be some distance issue when viewing on screen.
Close up comparison. This also shows it to be larger. As the Connie is much smaller than the Galaxy. However the 2 are shown to be big to the saucer section of both ships. This does indicate a larger size.
It could be possible the same ship. Or a difference size of the ships. Unless it shown on screen next to each other. This is all we have. At this time either answer is fair game.
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It's not opinion, its fact.
The on-screen evidence supersedes that of which originates from tech manuals and backstage sources.
According to the "on-screen evidence" in the TNG episode Darmok, the Enterprise can shoot phaser beams out of its forward photon tubes. Your canon arguments are irrelevant.
It's not opinion, its fact.
The on-screen evidence supersedes that of which originates from tech manuals and backstage sources.
According to the "on-screen evidence" in the TNG episode Darmok, the Enterprise can shoot phaser beams out of its forward photon tubes. Your canon arguments are irrelevant.
Don't forget in the "Way of the Warrior" from DS9. A K'tinga fired a beam from its front torpedo launcher. So either that was an upgrade. Or some bad effects from someone who forgot where the torpedo launcher was located.
Also on the Enterprise E. For 2 movies they fired torpedoes from a launcher right above the Captain's Yacht. However there is no room for a launcher there. Which is why the relocated them for Nemesis. Plus in those 2 movies the producers was only focusing on frontal assaults. Which is why the rear had to be "beefed" up in the Nemesis as well on weaponry.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
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Did you not read the link I showed.. "This class of warship wasn't listed in the Federation vehicle classification index, but at the time it was assumed to be the same Husnock warship"
Wow seriously? The script for the actual episode said that it was a Husnock ship. What else do you want? ...of course the ship wasn't listed in the federation classification index it was the first time a federation ship had encountered a Husnock Vessel, albeit a recreation of one.
1.) Take B'rel model in-game increase in size 1.5-2x, make wings locked in flight position.
2.) Copy-paste Andorian Kumari template for 5/2 weapons with Disruptor wing cannons and basic stats
3.) Add Battlecruiser commands, Battlecruiser Mastery skills, and KDF cloak
4.) Add new texture (probably the most time consuming)
5.) Sell new T6 KDF K'vort class in c-store for profit
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-TREK-THE-NEXT-GENERATION-CARD-HUSNOCK-APYX-/380959419381?hash=item58b2f36bf5:g:AlkAAOSwPe1T0lMU
http://www.ebay.com/itm/STAR-TREK-THE-NEXT-GENERATION-CARD-HUSNOCK-SHIP-APYO-/400746992458?hash=item5d4e61d34a:g:2zQAAOSwVFlT0kAt
My character Tsin'xing
Are you kidding me.. its a script.. not lore or such.. its was named so that that could refer it as something...
I swear have you even watched the episode? The episode never shows a Husnock... ever... the only ship it showed was the created one and he says he used the same trick to drive the Husnock away... that also was in the script... use some common sense here... If he created the same ship to try to trick the Husnock and the Enterprise.. then that created ship was not a Husnock warship.
Also as a fabrication its not even a real ship.. same with the Pathfinder... as it was just a holographic ship. Ya ya I know they added it to the game.. but it was never a real class of ship.. same as the Delta Rana warship
Yeah you're probably right. The script for the episode is wrong and even though the writers said it was a recreation of Husnock vessel it obviously wasn't because you said it's not canon.
Ya because wiki said it was so... you do know anyone can edit wiki right? Great way of ignoring what was actually in the episode....
He also didn't specify if he used the same SHIP for the same trick. he could have used a different one on the Husnock, and used a Husnock on the Enterprise.
We don't know.
Ok we go to screen only.
Fact:
The most name it was called was Bird of Prey. In many of the shows and even the first time is showed up in Star Trek III. So in reality is should be called the Bird of Prey.
However they also called it the K'vort on 1 episodes of TNG. "Yesterdays Enterprise". And in Deep Space 9 in the episode "Penumbra" Then again in Voyager in the "Drone" episode. So in reality this name type was used the most.
Then in Generations they called it a D12.
And finally the B'Rel like once which you stated in TNG Rascals.
So in reality with 3 (or 4 if you count the BOP only reference) different name types used for a ship. There has to be some differences in them to note a different name. Or unless their dialog was really messed up over the years to describe 1 ship type.
Sizing Fact:
Granted we never saw them both next to each other to show a true size. However what we have is we know the BOP is small ship. Now in some of the screens they show it very large. When next to the Galaxy when they referred it to the "K'vort" name. Now that could be some distance issue when viewing on screen.
Appears small to the Galaxy class:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/amatterofhonor/11-amatterofhonor-1-r.jpg
Compared to the Galaxy and D'deridex. Here it appears a lot bigger.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/thedefector/38-thedefector-r.jpg
Here is the first time its shown as a "K'vort" this also appears to be larger.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/yesterdaysenterprise/49-yesterdaysenterprise-r.jpg
And compared to the Vor'cha. They are little closer, so it could be off due to this.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/observations/reunion/12-reunion-r.jpg
Close up comparison. This also shows it to be larger. As the Connie is much smaller than the Galaxy. However the 2 are shown to be big to the saucer section of both ships. This does indicate a larger size.
Galaxy vs BOP:
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop/bop-unification.jpg
Connie Refit vs BOP:
http://www.ditl.org/Images/B/Birdofprey1.jpg
Here its smaller to the Vor'cha: Where before it appears to be much larger. This could be due to location, or difference in sizes.
http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/articles/bop/bops-wayofthewarrior.jpg
It could be possible the same ship. Or a difference size of the ships. Unless it shown on screen next to each other. This is all we have. At this time either answer is fair game.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.
According to the "on-screen evidence" in the TNG episode Darmok, the Enterprise can shoot phaser beams out of its forward photon tubes. Your canon arguments are irrelevant.
Don't forget in the "Way of the Warrior" from DS9. A K'tinga fired a beam from its front torpedo launcher. So either that was an upgrade. Or some bad effects from someone who forgot where the torpedo launcher was located.
Also on the Enterprise E. For 2 movies they fired torpedoes from a launcher right above the Captain's Yacht. However there is no room for a launcher there. Which is why the relocated them for Nemesis. Plus in those 2 movies the producers was only focusing on frontal assaults. Which is why the rear had to be "beefed" up in the Nemesis as well on weaponry.
USS Casinghead NCC 92047 launched 2350
Fleet Admiral Stowe - Dominion War Vet.