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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    edited May 2016
    Not unheard of for people to name children after ancestors. Nor is it unheard of for generations of family to work in the same field or industry. Nor is it unheard of that moral and social views are passed down through the generations.

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  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    Green was the architect of his pain and misery and leader of his human oppressors. He was a vicious, treacherous zealot who preached the litany of genetic purity and called for the utter destruction of the different.

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  • sistericsisteric Member Posts: 768 Arc User
    Corrected myself before I saw your post. I forgot that tidbit.
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  • mickeystrangemickeystrange Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    Found it. In the listing on Memory Alpha is says that sometimes the Eugenics War was referred to as World War 3 (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/Eugenics_Wars); they also list World War three as starting around 2026 (http://memory-alpha.wikia.com/wiki/World_War_III)
  • psycoticvulcanpsycoticvulcan Member Posts: 4,160 Arc User
    My guess: Green was the leader of the human rebellions that defeated the Augment empires, including Khan's, and went on to rule part of the Earth (Khan's former territory?) as a dictator, setting up his involvement in WWIII thirty years later.

    This was amazingly well-written and I hope it gets a follow-up in a temporal mission. Hopefully a cross-faction one. :)
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  • tancrediivtancrediiv Member Posts: 728 Arc User
    Ah, this story we enjoyed very much. Tell us more that we may be entertained and enthralled.

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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    megawolf0 wrote: »
    Good read. Wondering if this will lad to an episode and wonder if in some other alternate universe if by chance the augmented humans are ruling Earth and have their own Empire. Guessing the Klingnons in that universe will have a worthy opponent.
    One of the novel-verse's Myriad Universe stories (Seeds of Dissent) actually takes place in a setting where Khan won and a star-spanning Khanate of Earth is one of the great powers in the galaxy... and the Klingons apparently found them more than worthy as an opponent given a reference to a Klingon Protectorate. Of course, the story is both novel-verse-based and goes with the 1990s figure for the Eugenics War (the wars are indicated to have dragged on until 2012, but that's still decades before World War III).
  • spaldospaldo Member Posts: 2 Arc User
    The Temporal war all by itself could explain the time line TRIBBLE up. If these guys could have made that alt time line in ENT with the TRIBBLE's taking over most the eastern seaboard of the US they could have kicked off WWIII early or delayed the Eugenics Wars ending by a few years.

    Or these men (and woman) are fighters left behind when the Botany Bay left and they still fight because he told them too before leaving.
  • kirksfavoritesonkirksfavoriteson Member Posts: 24 Arc User
    I've enjoyed these "temporal war" vignettes increasingly since they started, but this one, "Purity", is exceptionally well-written, in my opinion. Thank you, Paul Reed.
  • glasgow4glasgow4 Member Posts: 20 Arc User
    I thought back in the day that the one thing that could have made the temporal war nonsense worthwhile would have been to tie it to the Eugenics War. Reconcile the idea that Star Trek is supposedly set in the future with the fact that the Eugenics War never happened.

    I suppose it's not too late for STO to go that route.
  • xylylxylyl Member Posts: 45 Arc User
    Fantastic writing! Was so engrossed that I looked for the 'page 2' link. This is so very much like the opening of sci-fi stories that I read in the 'Golden Age of Science Fiction' in the 50's, 60's & 70's in the pulp sci-fi magazines: Galaxy, Fantasy & Science Fiction, If, Analog, etc.

    Kudos to Mr. Reed and Cryptic.

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  • saurializardsaurializard Member Posts: 4,404 Arc User
    I know it's supposed to be a serious read, but I can't help but think the picture doesn't represent a Na'kuhl covered in his own blood and suffering from severe injuries, but a Na'kuhl cursing the guy who ran away after he caused him to spill his coffee all over him.
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  • feiqafeiqa Member Posts: 2,410 Arc User
    Congratulations. Now I want to read the book this is an excerpt from. And you have me rooting for a Na’kuhl.

    It does make me consider an idea.

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  • captaincelestialcaptaincelestial Member Posts: 1,925 Arc User
    It sure would be a round about way of the agent to go against Kirk..., but I like it.
  • fmtucfmtuc Member Posts: 13 Arc User
    Maybe Colonel Green was a black ops commander who figth secretly against Khan forces during the Eugenics Wars in his late 30s. After the Eugenics Wars he started to speak in public about genetic purity and was discharged from the army because autorithies doesn't want a Hitler-like figure as the architect of Khan defeat, in this time he give the speeech we saw in Enterprise. He later rose to command (by democracy or not) his country and fougth in the WW3 in his 70s
  • lilchibiclarililchibiclari Member Posts: 1,193 Arc User
    feiqa wrote: »
    Congratulations. Now I want to read the book this is an excerpt from. And you have me rooting for a Na’kuhl.

    It does make me consider an idea.

    Evil is relative.

    Yes, and we know that Col. Green is evil enough that we will cheer for his destruction.

    Vrell is a soldier for a nation that is fighting against Humanity, but he's been written as a reasonably relatable individual, and we can all feel for his desire for revenge on his captors, especially after losing an eye to them.
  • gavinrunebladegavinruneblade Member Posts: 3,894 Arc User
    Get these blogs into the game somehow and pay Mr. Reed a ton of money to craft an entire arc story line and stuff. Because the man certainly earns his keep.

    In the most recent Priority One podcast Salami Inferno says they are working on getting all the blogs into the game. One idea was to have them come up individually between episodes as you play through the stories, but they're not sure exactly how they will end up doing it. At least it is being discussed.
  • artan42artan42 Member Posts: 10,450 Bug Hunter
    The dates of the Eugenics War were later retconned after TOS. For instance the Voyager has an episode set in 1995 with no Eugenics War in the background.
    It's most commonly assumed that the two wars are the same event and that the EW happening in the 90s is a relic of TOS that was quietly forgotten like Romulans not having warp, easy travel to the center and boundary of the galaxy, lithium crystals, laser guns, and warp 15.

    So both wars are the same one taking place in the 2050's. Which will be probably be retconned again for Star Trek's 90th anniversary as we approach the Eugenics War's new date.​​
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    artan42 wrote: »
    The dates of the Eugenics War were later retconned after TOS. For instance the Voyager has an episode set in 1995 with no Eugenics War in the background.
    It's most commonly assumed that the two wars are the same event and that the EW happening in the 90s is a relic of TOS that was quietly forgotten like Romulans not having warp, easy travel to the center and boundary of the galaxy, lithium crystals, laser guns, and warp 15.

    So both wars are the same one taking place in the 2050's. Which will be probably be retconned again for Star Trek's 90th anniversary as we approach the Eugenics War's new date.​​

    Personally, if I were handling Star Trek, I might define a divergence point in the timeline and say that's where our universes part. It is already different since the 60s by the virtue alone that no one mentioned that there is a TV show that predicted all of what happens in Star Trek. ;)
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  • lordinsanelordinsane Member Posts: 274 Arc User
    Enterprise actually retconned back the 1990s date, sorta - it makes a reference to the Augments being pretty sophisticated for 20th century genetics. Then again, Archer having a great-grandfather who fought in the Eugenics Wars might be more consistent with a war 100 years earlier than a war 150 years earlier.
  • f8explorer#7814 f8explorer Member Posts: 1,328 Arc User
    Superb story. S U P E R B.
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  • mustrumridcully0mustrumridcully0 Member Posts: 12,963 Arc User
    Upon reading it I noticed there seems to be another common theme - Na'khul technology is not exactly.. reliable. In a previous piece of fiction, a Na'khul complained about some technical difficulties. Now we have one whose whole mission is halted because his tech fails him.

    Too bad this isn't really reflected in any special Na'khul ship features. (like the old Transwarp Excelsior thingy). Still, a fun detail.
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    This game is still so cool... i can hardly wait till the TOS expansion comes out! ::P LLAP STOnline!
  • legendarylycan#5411 legendarylycan Member Posts: 37,284 Arc User
    Upon reading it I noticed there seems to be another common theme - Na'khul technology is not exactly.. reliable.

    well of course...it's hard to see what you're doing when you have no sun​​
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Enh, my reading on it is that Na'kuhl tech would be reliable if it wasn't being strained to the limits of what it can do.
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  • bltrrnbltrrn Member Posts: 1,322 Arc User
    Enh, my reading on it is that Na'kuhl tech would be reliable if it wasn't being strained to the limits of what it can do.

    Perhaps, but Augments having access to 29th Century Na'Kuhl technology...... *cackles in background*
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  • markhawkmanmarkhawkman Member Posts: 35,236 Arc User
    Yes, that does give one reason to "intervene". Hopefully there will be few casualties.
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