I look at the topic for some time and have something to add, I will try to express my opinions briefly and succinctly.
Case No. 1
The vast majority of players having a problem with the current balance are mostly PvE players which literally are once a month can be seen in the arena. They join PvP on PvE or Semi PvE builds(2 alloys 125 weapon power YOLO IM PVPER), and it ends up with topics like this and discouraging others to do PvP.
Case No. 2
Most serious players PvP did not even bother disputes about balance, the game is what it is and only the ingenuity of the players can handle, who can not handle ends in this topic weeping and whimpering as it is terribly instead improving himself and his build.
Case No. 3
I'm not saying that FBP is not a powerful skill, as many skills in this game. Personally, I think the multipler that best players have is too large, I think the reflection of 1: 1 would be more fair. However, even now there are exactly 4 mechanics of preventing the reflection of FBP (i use 2 of them by myself becouse isokinetic is reflected from FBP- oh suprised?). For information on how to do this can be achieved from other PvP players(by observation or asking) and even Gamepeda (although not directly) So, with this anyone who has even a x4 multiplier can do nothing to you. I will not mention only that it is a good idea to not attack your enemy if he had FBP and wait for his reuse. Nobody can have FBP 100% uptime.
Case No. 4
FBP mechanics is needed in this game, as i said above multiper is too big, but reflection give a SCI captains and Eng captains oportunity to defend from our best escort PvP players or just 15 sec of peace(sometimes less due to FBP avoid mechanics).
I know escorts PvP players that just reduce 100k cruiser with 60% resistances to 0% hp in on run. So i belive that's the reason of creating FBP
Case No. 5
Ppl who knows me dont need prove to understand my point above, and my experiance speak for myself. But ppl who dont can check my YT channel and see my few duo arenas with my freind that is a engineer with plasma beam boat. He face fbp everyday on arena but i learn him to dodge it almost whole time. Everybody can be a good PvP player, but it happen mostly to the ppl who want to improve, not just complain all time. I know few rly good players that even on escorts are always dengerous to me and i respect them, they dont cry about SCI EASY MODE 250 PRTGEN YOLO)
So with all respect, i made this answer to help not that experianced pvp players to understand that improving themselfs and learning about game is better than complaining
Is it beyond the ken of pvpers to set some rules and have private games within a channel, or set of channels, that are less restrictive than the star trek battles people? Its pretty obvious the devs aren't going to help.
@meteoricone
I dont write my post to discuss you, you are noone to speak with. Nobody even know you on opvp, meybe you did 5 years of pvp on 1v1 or idk and dont ever care. You can enjoy your pasta hare i will enjoy in killing frags like you.
Fact is.. Craptic destroy with DR everything.. and PvP is worst then ever.. totally unbalanced, to much TRIBBLE and ofc a lot of " P2W ".. . If you want a seriously PvP than chance the Game.. STO PvP is only for the LOL now.. .
Some of us from TRH, IC, and SP still play...we're just hiding..
Sad Pandas are gone too, some of us still log in but for different things, not PVP.
Planning to move over to Dreadnought once it's released I guess - game in early beta still looks far more promising than STO right now.
Old PvP fleets? I can count 4 fleets that regularly premade in the queue...the first is -The New Order-, then there are Confederazione Stellare Italiana, Evil Grandpas and Raumpatrouille Elysion...and none of them seems to have a team of veterans, I can only speak for RE and we currently dont have players from old time such as horjen or entrax still logging into the game (ok there are two or three but they dont PvP), the ones who did left shortly after that and didnt want to PvP again...good job cryptic.
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IM pretty sure if you see "Jacob" in the name you can guarantee an FBP..At least thats been my experience..
Rouge Sto Wiki Editor.
Case No. 1
The vast majority of players having a problem with the current balance are mostly PvE players which literally are once a month can be seen in the arena. They join PvP on PvE or Semi PvE builds(2 alloys 125 weapon power YOLO IM PVPER), and it ends up with topics like this and discouraging others to do PvP.
Case No. 2
Most serious players PvP did not even bother disputes about balance, the game is what it is and only the ingenuity of the players can handle, who can not handle ends in this topic weeping and whimpering as it is terribly instead improving himself and his build.
Case No. 3
I'm not saying that FBP is not a powerful skill, as many skills in this game. Personally, I think the multipler that best players have is too large, I think the reflection of 1: 1 would be more fair. However, even now there are exactly 4 mechanics of preventing the reflection of FBP (i use 2 of them by myself becouse isokinetic is reflected from FBP- oh suprised?). For information on how to do this can be achieved from other PvP players(by observation or asking) and even Gamepeda (although not directly) So, with this anyone who has even a x4 multiplier can do nothing to you. I will not mention only that it is a good idea to not attack your enemy if he had FBP and wait for his reuse. Nobody can have FBP 100% uptime.
Case No. 4
FBP mechanics is needed in this game, as i said above multiper is too big, but reflection give a SCI captains and Eng captains oportunity to defend from our best escort PvP players or just 15 sec of peace(sometimes less due to FBP avoid mechanics).
I know escorts PvP players that just reduce 100k cruiser with 60% resistances to 0% hp in on run. So i belive that's the reason of creating FBP
Case No. 5
Ppl who knows me dont need prove to understand my point above, and my experiance speak for myself. But ppl who dont can check my YT channel and see my few duo arenas with my freind that is a engineer with plasma beam boat. He face fbp everyday on arena but i learn him to dodge it almost whole time. Everybody can be a good PvP player, but it happen mostly to the ppl who want to improve, not just complain all time. I know few rly good players that even on escorts are always dengerous to me and i respect them, they dont cry about SCI EASY MODE 250 PRTGEN YOLO)
So with all respect, i made this answer to help not that experianced pvp players to understand that improving themselfs and learning about game is better than complaining
Good Luck
I dont write my post to discuss you, you are noone to speak with. Nobody even know you on opvp, meybe you did 5 years of pvp on 1v1 or idk and dont ever care. You can enjoy your pasta hare i will enjoy in killing frags like you.
Cronos
Delta - Recluse
Omega - Scimitar
Alpha - MVAM
Beta - Wells
I can only speak for IC.. all this great Guys are gone and for sure they will never come back.
Snog.. Hank.. Percy.. Hannibal.. Mira.. Zimbi.. Perry.. Damian.. Shimmerless.. Virusdancer.. Yoda.. Frank.. etc.
I miss you Guys.. .
Fact is.. Craptic destroy with DR everything.. and PvP is worst then ever.. totally unbalanced, to much TRIBBLE and ofc a lot of " P2W ".. . If you want a seriously PvP than chance the Game.. STO PvP is only for the LOL now.. .
David
*** Aktiv since 03.06.10 ***
Sad Pandas are gone too, some of us still log in but for different things, not PVP.
Planning to move over to Dreadnought once it's released I guess - game in early beta still looks far more promising than STO right now.
I can count 4 fleets that regularly premade in the queue...the first is -The New Order-, then there are Confederazione Stellare Italiana, Evil Grandpas and Raumpatrouille Elysion...and none of them seems to have a team of veterans, I can only speak for RE and we currently dont have players from old time such as horjen or entrax still logging into the game (ok there are two or three but they dont PvP), the ones who did left shortly after that and didnt want to PvP again...good job cryptic.