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Why don 't players in the Breach check their targets?
tilarta
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A source of constant annoyance lately has been the Subpower core room in the Breach.
There are 3 targets, but only one of them is the genuine Subpower core.
The fakes are identified with a question mark at the end of their name.
As a result, I take time to look at the end of the name, if there is a question mark, I just fly off and find the real one.
Sadly, it appears very few other players are exercising this level of exactitude.
They just shoot whatever appears, fake or not and then go to the next one.
This has the result of putting my ship into red alert, preventing the activation of out of combat top flight speed.
Which keeps me from going to the actual Subpower core until the debuff wears off.
And it only gets worse.
On two separate occasions, I have been on teams where one player has specifically sent a team message stating to check the targets and how to identify the fakes.
I myself did it 4 times.
For all these runs, the message was completely disregarded, the team just shot whatever emerged when the power relay columns retracted.
It's like they're running on mental autopilot, see target, shoot target.
After experiencing this several times, I named it Serviceman Chung targetting.
Watch the video, it explains the name.
Then I witnessed the ultimate act of foolishness.
4 members of the team (counting myself) had located the true Subpower core and were shooting at it.
Out of nowhere, the blast wave from one of the fakes hits my ship.
Extremely confused, I then rotated the camera to see what had happened.
The 5th member of the team had opened another set of power relays and destroyed one of the fakes!
Surely if the genuine Subpower core was being targeted by the rest of the team, it would not be necessary to keep opening power relays and shooting the fakes?
Can anyone explain why very few players take the time to verify their targets instead of just shooting whatever is an actively targetable object?
I think they should make the lesson harder, to make it stick.
As in, whoever blows up the fakes is oneshotted, if you fired upon it, it takes you out.
There are 3 targets, but only one of them is the genuine Subpower core.
The fakes are identified with a question mark at the end of their name.
As a result, I take time to look at the end of the name, if there is a question mark, I just fly off and find the real one.
Sadly, it appears very few other players are exercising this level of exactitude.
They just shoot whatever appears, fake or not and then go to the next one.
This has the result of putting my ship into red alert, preventing the activation of out of combat top flight speed.
Which keeps me from going to the actual Subpower core until the debuff wears off.
And it only gets worse.
On two separate occasions, I have been on teams where one player has specifically sent a team message stating to check the targets and how to identify the fakes.
I myself did it 4 times.
For all these runs, the message was completely disregarded, the team just shot whatever emerged when the power relay columns retracted.
It's like they're running on mental autopilot, see target, shoot target.
After experiencing this several times, I named it Serviceman Chung targetting.
Watch the video, it explains the name.
Then I witnessed the ultimate act of foolishness.
4 members of the team (counting myself) had located the true Subpower core and were shooting at it.
Out of nowhere, the blast wave from one of the fakes hits my ship.
Extremely confused, I then rotated the camera to see what had happened.
The 5th member of the team had opened another set of power relays and destroyed one of the fakes!
Surely if the genuine Subpower core was being targeted by the rest of the team, it would not be necessary to keep opening power relays and shooting the fakes?
Can anyone explain why very few players take the time to verify their targets instead of just shooting whatever is an actively targetable object?
I think they should make the lesson harder, to make it stick.
As in, whoever blows up the fakes is oneshotted, if you fired upon it, it takes you out.
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Who cares?
Their shooting at the wrong core delays you by a handful of seconds at best.. what difference does it make? People are doing this mind numbing event every single day on every character that they want to give the reward to. It's hard to blame them for putting their brain on 'cruise control' for normal mode.
If you want to map stuff out in Advanced+ or organized team runs.. then cool. If Pugs shoot at the wrong core, who really cares?
As for the people who open and shoot the fake one when you're shooting the real one, possible they're doing it on purpose maybe? heh.
I honestly never even noticed the question mark before. If it tells you that somewhere, I never read it. I'm just trying to get through the last couple days so I can get my Dilithium and my Admiralty Card.
I fire at everything, because honestly.. I'm in a pug on normal and I just give a rats @#$.
That's just sad
I do check the targets myself before firing, but the mind-numbingness of repeating this event 9 times a day for the past 12 days now is way too much and really a sure path to burning oneself out of the game altogether.
What isn't good about it is the AFKers who cruise along but do nothing much but prolong the grind, the repetition that's not helping keep the game fun and freeing, and the severe impact on the queues as a whole.
I haven't even had time to interact with the fleets or check the battlezones to see how those are doing considering the hours put in all for some Dil that at current Dil-Ex rates I'm unwilling to give up and some admiralty ship which is only of use to alts some of which I'm not running them through regardless.
And most who would do Elite, know better then to target the ?cores.
And ive also witnessed pets attacking the ?cores.
So we can't necessarily blame the player all the time.
It's not like I'm bogging my team down or not trying. It's just that no one gives a TRIBBLE if people shoot at the 'fake' cores or not. It just makes absolutely no difference to anyone so I don't worry about it.
It's not like I don't help my team because I absolutely do. I just don't care about the 'fake cores.' And honestly.. neither does anyone else.
I've also seen the npc ships that you rescue shooting them.
Support 90 degree arc limitation on BFaW! Save our ships from looking like flying disco balls of dumb!
This. I have never seen anybody NOT shoot all of them. I had guessed that two were fakes, but I must be flying too much on the Y-axis to see the ? at the end of the name, and it's not showing on my target box.
They make a wondrous mess of things. Brave amateurs, they do their part.
Every time staying at 10km, when anyone opens subpower cores.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
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If I didn't just want to steamroll that place and get out, I would ask for it to be updated so that shooting a "?" core instakilled everyone in the room.
Nah just instakill the one that shoots it, or give them a severe debuff that can't be cleansed for 30s.
To the OP, some people just don't care. It's annoying but that's how it is.
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Honestly? I'd still shoot it. Better me than one of those 50k+ DPS monsters.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
Actually, it's Science Team that clears the debuff. Turn it on a few seconds before the shockwave hits you, and you'll barely notice it.
Infinite possibilities have implications that could not be completely understood if you turned this entire universe into a giant supercomputer.
ST clears the whole thing but ET clears the engine offline so both are good to use.
It puts people in red alert which pretty much stops most players. It shuts off engines, which does stop players. It causes shield and hull damage. You may have already unknowingly killed others players, which also stops players. I haven't been in a pug yet where someone does not make a comment like "don't shoot the '?'," except when chat was down for a few hours after the server upgrade.
Seriously, if there was ever a mission where shooting enemies resulted in a mission fail, I'm sure it would be unpugable since people can't even be bothered to notice a "?" or even notice that they get damaged and debuffed when they do...
The minicore room goes a lot faster if no one shoots the fake cores.
Obviously that's not true...
This^^
I use eng team, it doesn't get rid of the electric effect but it turns the engines back on which is the important part to me, I can just shrug off the damage.
Yeah, it's my fault you run it 10 times a day right? I should tailor my habbits to the fact that you feel the need to run an annoying event 140 total times with all your alts. That's your problem, not mine.
No. It might have those effects on me personally, but it's not like my entire team dies everytime I shoot a core. Like I said, I have run this event dozens of times, and never even noticed the silly '?' icons. No one I have ever played with has ever said a word about this, everyone has done it the same way, everyone shoots all the cores. Outside of this thread, I have never ever heard word one about this issue.. ever. A couple people on this forum complaining about a non issue doesn't mean people care.. they don't. Shooting the fake cores doesn't matter, you and the OP are just being overly dramatic.
It has nothing to do with that, I never even knew. It's not like this is explained.. because it's not. I have never once heard anyone ever mention this 'issue' ever.. not once. I play the entire mission, I complete objectives, I help my team. If you want to say a player is being inconsiderate because they shoot fake cores that have absolutely no effect on anything and are never even explained, then fine. I'm inconsiderate, and you're an overly judgmental and self righteous. The rush to judgment works both ways.
I did wonder where the damage and debuff were comin' from though, just figured they were from the core blowin' up.
Thinkin' about it; I've shot the fakes many.. many times now, haaha!
Won't be makin' that mistake again.
In the grand scheme of things though, it isn't really that big of a deal.
What gets me is the sheer amount of lazy people that'll just wait at the start for the "Rally at.." prompt to show...